namesake posted:

No but you reminded me of the great anecdote about how everyone across the planet who reads the economist reads it for their foreign coverage because everyone sees how laughable their local analysis is.

ronya posted:

"Gell-Mann amnesia", actually coined by Michael Crichton

He then merrily followed this down the garden path of global warming denialism, so... y'know. Word of warning and all that.

Guavanaut posted:

The two balls should have different medical names, I propose levicle and dexticle.

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Edit: a scary read https://threader.app/thread/1237142891077697538

TheRat posted:

Apparently Italy has the second best healthcare system in the world (acording to WHO), and the worst of the outbreak is hitting the richest/most wellequipped region of Italy.

GazChap posted:

Some kids at one of the colleges in my home town (Shrewsbury, fact fans) returned from a college-organised skiing trip to Northern Italy on Sunday.

They were in the Valle D'Aosta (sp?) region, which was not quite in the quarantined zone at the time, but not *that* far off.

They were told by college officials that they were to come in on Monday as normal.

Then Italy went into full lockdown.

Tuesday rolls around, they're told not to come in any more and (perhaps entirely coincidentally, no clue either way) Shropshire gets its first confirmed diagnosis...

Olpainless posted:

Also, this is pretty interesting, regarding Italy's higher death rate -

https://nextstrain.org/ncov?c=gt-S_614

There's a mutation on the spike protein that seems to be basically just expressed in the italian cases. Seeing as that's the important one for infectivity, wonder if this is making it easier to gain entry to cells?
(I mean, I know that there's also a more elderly population in Italy that's more likely. But it sure is interesting!)

ThomasPaine posted:

Guess I'd better stock up on wine lol

WhatEvil posted:

Also I picked up these:




Haven't tried them yet, will report back.

Sanford posted:

Just had a management meeting, looked like we were going to instruct full working from home (software company) and then the Financial Director said unless we could, there and then, tell him where a 20% revenue boost was coming from to cover what he expects we'd lose he would veto it. We could not, and so he did. Company policy now is to use paper towels rather than hand towels, and all meeting rooms are to have at least one window open while in use. That'll do, I'm sure.

Communist Thoughts posted:

Yeah like I said, snide and cowardly guardian poo poo.

Call this out ffs why is everyone so desperate to pretend this is fine. Its murder

Guavanaut posted:

I like paternosters. Bad system for a hospital but just in general. Up box. Down box. They used to have one at Leicester Uni.

I think there's still a working one somewhere in Czechia.

Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/HenryKrinkIe/status/1239307445933137920?s=20

TheRat posted:

https://twitter.com/scott_mintzer/status/1239290400109666305

Total Meatlove posted:

ThomasPaine posted:

as a historian of health can I just take the time to say how wonderfully interesting this whole thing is going to be once i'm not immediately at risk of dying from it

TheRat posted:

From the corona-thread:


tl;dr based on what I could translate:

- Chinese stats on mild/serious/critical were generally accurate (80%/14%/6%)
- For those who die, progress is rapid at around ~10 days from onset of symptoms to death
- Fucks with families a la radiation poisoning by having a period where symptoms improve before things go catastrophically wrong
- No change in white blood cell count even 10 days after onset of symptoms (?!?!)
- Fever, sometimes intermittent, for 10+ days
- For hospitalized cases, 1/3 have mild respiratory symptoms, 1/3rd need something like a non-rebreather mask, 1/3rd end up on an intubator

edit:
old news sorry

oxford_town posted:

Dr Michael Head, Senior Research Fellow in Global Health, University of Southampton, said:

Camrath posted:

Hopefully having to literally flee for the border will take some of the wind out of my Tory-loving dad’s sails..

Guavanaut posted:

I mean HIV is pretty famous for white blood cell count not increasing over the course of this disease, but that's more different.

Traditionally it was thought that elevated WBC count during fever was a sign of bacterial infection and viral fevers from rhinovirus or corona did not change WBC count, but the current research is that that's not a reliable sign on its own.

quote:

According to the complaints of a survivor, the medical graduate student (24 years old) from Wuhan University, she must stay awake and breathe consciously and actively during the intensive care.

Guavanaut posted:

You need 60% minimum. Wray & Nephew Overproof Rum might work at a pinch. Or methylated spirits (don't do the drinking part with this).

The Perfect Element posted:

Is there a decent, concise source of information which will make people start taking this loving thing seriously? .

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Murdered by your own vanity.

Regarding that Reuters article, of stainless steel is so good at keeping the nasty virus active why are all those big posh professional kitchens not made of cardboard?

ThomasPaine posted:

If you can get ahold of some Sudafed Blocked Nose spray (in the blue bottle) is like a nuke and clears you right out

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Who's got FT access? I want to see what's behind this headline: "US drugmaker doubled price on potential coronavirus treatment"

https://www.ft.com/content/b7a21a16-6a1f-11ea-800d-da70cff6e4d3

Barry Foster posted:

Get off the internet for a day or two, in your free time anyway. Specifically avoid twitter, news sites, SA, FB (lol), and any other crack that lets the outside world in. Watch films or tv or play vidja games or get high and/or drunk and listen to music.

Necrothatcher posted:

Dad (Pharmacist): Has been spat on a few times as a result.

pumpinglemma posted:

The silver lining is that I think ventolin is one of the steroids that actually makes coronavirus symptoms worse? Still worth taking if you're having a genuine asthma attack, but anyone who's taking inhalers away from people who need them is going to get what they deserve.

baka kaba posted:

it just sounded funny in that awkwardly americanised way

Necrothatcher posted:

I'm hosting a Court of Appeal hearing from my living room over Skype this morning. Got 3 judges and 10 lawyers dialling in. Hope to gently caress it works!

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Seems like an opportunity for Snapchat For Business to launch, automatically superimposing wigs, gowns, business suits, or whatever dress is appropriate over the third-day underwear that most people are actually wearing after an extended bout of WFH.

Guavanaut posted:

Initial viral load seems to have a large weighting on later experience among equivalent people, a high initial viral load like in the Birmingham church cases seems to have worse outcomes than from a single exposure. It makes sense if you draw an exponential graph starting with 2^1, 2^2, 2^3, 2^4... and compare it with 3^1, 3^2, 3^3, 3^4...

jabby posted:

Spoiler: they won't get ventilated.

At my hospital registrars are already having this conversation with lots of our cancer patients and anyone with severe comorbidities. You catch the Covid, don't expect to go to intensive care. Hell, because of a lack of suitable PPE it's being seriously considered not to even do CPR on anyone with suspected Covid.

justcola posted:

Matt Hancock looking like a college intern asked to give a presentation to middle management about something so far beyond his comprehension he is the avatar of imposter syndrome.

All of the planning behind all this will be incredibly mundane, like a corporate away day where they have to LARP a pandemic response but nobody can be bothered and feels entirely out of their depth.

Mugsbaloney posted:

Someone talk me out of buying a bike.