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https://twitter.com/DavidCayJ/status/1234222655412359172 Paging our mole on the Solent ShaneMcGowansTeeth to tell us if there's similar scenes down there...
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fuctifino posted:e: JRM repeating a Cummings inspired rhyme? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f727NW9KeuA Not unless Cummings is even older than he looks, it's a fairly famous 50s public health campaign. I (and almost certainly he) know it from The Blood Donor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qmBivUlPXE&t=582s
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Mar 3, 2020 00:22
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Mar 3, 2020 00:48
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Angepain posted:I wonder if any of them are online enough to have seen the mass abuse tactics of gamergate et al and have to hold in their head that it's completely different when they do it because they're justified Glinner's route to Terfdom explicitly included fighting against Gamergate, so in at least one case yes.
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Mar 3, 2020 09:28
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CoolCab posted:it's a real ideological slight of hand to imply loving weev attended occupy because he was a leftist, then because something something he left and became a nazi. if I'm not mistaken he had a loving swastika tattooed on his chest at that point and had been ostracised from programming communities for being a fuckin nazi. Well the Nazi tattoo happened while he was in prison for the AT&T hack which was after his Occupy had mostly petered out - however predating them both was his involvement with GNAA and all the other "hilarity" of that 4chan/ED/lj-drama generation of "ironic" extreme-right "trolling". Dude was a self-evident danger - and one defended to the hilt by a lot of the younger generation of Centrist Brains - long before he ever got involved with Occupy. He's basically the Count Dankula for people who thought "POOL IS CLOSED DUE TO AIDS" was brave free speech warfare.
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Mar 3, 2020 11:20
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Ash Crimson posted:Aren't Sinn Fein almost in power there? (Warning: knowledge of Irish politics comes entirely from Simpsons memes) FF & FG will never allow a Sinn Fein government or any other socialist government so no, no they're not "almost in power". And FWIW Labour got a larger share of the vote in fascist hellscape England (34%) than Sinn Fein got in noted socialist utopia Ireland (24.5%). Obviously the very different electoral systems make a comparison basically pointless, but at this point comparing Scottish and English electoral results as a method of proving the righteousness of one side or the other is equally pointless. The SNP have no equivalent in rUK politics (unless you're feeling *extremely* uncharitable and compare them to UKIP/BXP), and the effective freedom afforded to them to say "Everything will be better after independence" while never actually having to explain how this is the case means that they pull from all points of the political spectrum. Expecting them to seamlessly transition post-independence to something even as left-wing as 2015 Labour instead of just another bland, wonkish neoliberal party is being optimistic almost to the point of delusion.
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Mar 3, 2020 15:35
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Ash Crimson posted:The rhetoric used by terfs isn't much different from those used against gay, lesbian or bi people; that they're somehow going to target children if they're allowed to exist within the same space, be it physically or via through their "ideology". In all seriousness this would almost certainly be a good thing for you. I completely blotted out politics for a few weeks after the election because I realised it was only damaging my ability to function as a human being, and you *have* to put your own health and wellbeing first otherwise you leave yourself in no position to actually improve matters for anyone. To borrow the horrible American phrase, "tend your own garden". Once you've got yourself back on your feet, feel free to come back swinging into the fray.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/post_liberal/status/1234746404733702144 Warning - contains brainworms.
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Mar 3, 2020 21:34
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ThomasPaine posted:someone I used to work with in retail had alcohol sanitiser because she was convinced currency was an insane source of all sorts of contagions, I always thought she was being overzealous but eh who knows now She was actually right, and food service workers are specifically meant not to handle food after handling cash without first washing their hands for exactly this reason.
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Mar 4, 2020 01:24
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Regarde Aduck posted:Not looking good for Bernie. Which means not looking good for us I guess. It was nice to dream of a world where those American medical companies didn't exist and so couldn't feast upon our vulnerable brexited bones. TBH President Bernie would only make the situation worse for us because those American healthcare companies (which already have their claws in the NHS) would throw everything they have at cracking it open in order to replace the profits lost in the US.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:If you want to read it so badly couldn't you just I dunno buy the newspaper? quote:The last printed edition was published on Saturday 26 March 2016, leaving only the online edition
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Jose posted:Lol the hospital my sister works in just threw out all their face masks because they were made in Wuhan Surely they're sterilised?
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Guavanaut posted:police shouldn't take people's stuff unless it's directly part of a criminal act. 1970s Flying Squad whole-heartedly agree.
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thespaceinvader posted:ugh our mortgage fixed rate can't be extended until January next year, I'm seriously considering pulling the trigger on it early and eating the early repayment charge, in case Brexit plays havoc with interest rates. (NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE) I can't see the Bank of England raising interest rates any time soon, and the more chaotic the Brexit the less likely it gets. However this doesn't stop the banks themselves hiking up mortgage rates if they consider the risk to be higher thanks to a recession, but again this seems unlikely as long as the central banks are all firing the free money hose at them as hard as they can.
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Mar 4, 2020 18:37
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OwlFancier posted:The gently caress is happening with that plane? It's flying, hth.
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Mar 5, 2020 02:18
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Jippa posted:gently caress. I was supposed to be taking my sister to a flybe flight tomorrow morning. https://twitter.com/LNER/status/1235475343508754433 Probably not likely to be of any help, but might be of use.
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Mar 5, 2020 10:01
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ronya posted:"Gell-Mann amnesia", actually coined by Michael Crichton I'm certain it's based on an older quote, possibly from Mark Twain, but I can't find anything to back that up on a quick Google so maybe it's an example of what I'll call Churchill Syndrome where people misattribute quotes to older, more respectable sources to cover up the fact they actually came from Kurt Cobain.
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Mar 5, 2020 10:41
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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1235548323718676481 The Graun choosing to use a picture of HSBC with a Flybe plane in the foreground is pretty good.
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marktheando posted:I hope they do try to make a tunnel through the rough seas full of unexploded ordinance. I'm not sure you know how tunnels work.
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Mar 5, 2020 14:44
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OwlFancier posted:Is that the normal approach to london city or is it deliberately photoshopped to make it look like the plane is about to 911 the banking towers? Normal westbound takeoff - zoom crush makes it look a lot closer than it is, the actual takeoff path runs a comfortable couple hundred metres wide and high of Canary Wharf (ahem) but they make a sharp right as soon as they're up to speed to allow them to depart without interfering with approach to Heathrow. This is a lot of fun, because on most days it takes you through the wind shadow of the towers so the plane suddenly drops just as the turn starts. It's probably only a few feet, but it feels like a *lot* more as you're looking directly down into my mate's back garden, low enough to see whether or not he has washing out. Combined with the very short takeoff roll and pretty sharp acceleration of the little planes they use at London City, it's about the closest any British person ever gets to feeling what it's like to launch off of a proper aircraft carrier. This also applies to landings - the 5 degree glidescope (compared to 3 degrees at most airports) is the same as used for carrier landings (not to avoid crashing into Canary Wharf as most people believe, but to minimise noise on the approach and speed at touchdown). I know flying is very bad, but I seriously recommend a flight from London City if no train is available for the journey you want to take - it's really not that much more expensive than a flight from Heathrow or Gatwick (and for most Londoners may even be cheaper just because you save the outrageous cost of train or taxi fare).
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feedmegin posted:How the bloody hell are UK regions and nations supposed to set their own immigration policies without either Border Force checking passports/visas at the Scottish/English border (or the M25), or introducing hukous? At a guess, the same way companies currently have a say in non-EU immigration policy - if a local authority isn't willing to sign off on someone coming to work at a company in their area then that person doesn't get a visa. There's also theoretically at least already a mechanism by which central Government assigns refugees to local authorities, but that's patchy at best and mostly unenforceable. Of course like everything Nandy spouts it's superficially appealing (to certain people) and sounds common sense-y but falls apart at the slightest probing, because nobody ever actually probes into anything in a world where all politics must be expressable in 280 characters.
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https://twitter.com/PhotosOfTV/status/809102055130431488 The EU need to be forcing us to put this sign on the doors of all Easyjet flights as part of the negotiations.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Made me think of this: First film I ever watched on video, and as a result one of my favourite films of all time (because we only had like four cassettes for the Video 2000 machine my dad had got down the market to tape things off the telly and of course no chance to buy pre-recorded ones).
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Julio Cruz posted:I think last time this happened it was explained that getting a username with a load of numbers like that happens sometimes when you try to create a new account on mobile This was last week, the username format is pretty much just an indicator of the non-terminally-online and as they tend not to  along the lines of the terminally online they get called bots. This person also does original tweets (posts and replies) versus RTs at a much higher rate than I do, and I'm fairly certain I'm not a bot. Now you can point at the rather abnormal following/follower ratio for a non-celebrity but there's no actual indicator that they're a bot.
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OwlFancier posted:Do you think you could grout the bathroom by pointing a tablet with twitter at it? Only if you tile your bathroom in brains, which seems like a solution worse than the problem.
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Tesseraction posted:Shaun Vids did a 300k subs Q&A and it was rather surprising to see poignant questions coming from one of those mary09128309182903821908 accounts. Only for him to reply to another one later that was also like vivian123718728987 that was clearly a bot asking racist questions in a JAQ way. What do you think bots actually are and do?
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Mar 6, 2020 17:26
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Tesseraction posted:I mean the first one is clearly an example of the mobile sign up issue mentioned before, where it's a real person who got a bunch of random digits added, whereas the latter was clearly a Russian bot. In what way "clearly"?
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Tesseraction posted:It was a question personalised to an extent that a bot wouldn't be, unless you think someone's gone out of their way to make a bot to specifically troll Shaun & Vids by asking him sensible questions for his Q&A? Okay you've completely lost me now. You were claiming the one asking the racist question was clearly a Russian bot. I'm asking you - other than the username format which we've already established isn't evidence of it being a bot (in fact is almost certainly strong evidence *against* an account being a bot) and the fact that they were expressing racist views - what makes them "clearly a Russian bot"? I know I might be coming over as a bit of a dick here but I'm trying to draw out from you (and by extension anyone else in the "RUSSIA ARE EVERYWHERE" camp) the actual reasons why you think this is the case slowly enough that you examine the preconceptions you have. If you prefer, I can cut to the chase: It wasn't a Russian bot. Almost nothing you think is a Russia bot is a Russian bot. Bots - Russian or otherwise - are restricted purely to signal-boosting. There are a vanishingly small number of cases where deliberate, original posts were made by accounts associated with such efforts but they were always the top of a chain, not the middle of it, because a random reply to a post is fundamentally far less influential than an OP, and the ROI on the St. Petersburg Troll Factories that would be required to have hundreds of people posting replies to random threads is non-existent, especially compared to signal-boosting your own content or - much more frequently - that of media figures that happen to agree with your agenda. The narrative of politically-motivated bots infesting all aspects of social media is a convenient one for a lot of interested parties, from blue-ticks refusing to believe that any real human being could possibly disagree with their extremely clever points, to politicians wanting to pretend that it's still 1964 and we need to be on our guard for reds under the bed (and that we need to nuke Iran immediately), to social media companies who want to pretend their massively-multiplayer online notepads are actually influential in world affairs, but it's one that falls apart at the slightest probing. To pick at just the most obvious and prominent of those threads - you're sitting in your Bureau of Winding Up Fubpees office at the Lubyanka. You've spent millions on a system that is able to reliably pass the Turing Test and/or a massive room of Posting Warriors able not only to speak a foreign language but use regionalisms and slang to a level undetectable to native speakers. Just before you press the big red button to unleash your Third Shock Site Army across the Internet German Border, when the Third Deputy Secretary With Special Responsiblity For Annoying Jolyon Maugham speaks up - "Comrade, do you think we should do something about these placeholder usernames?" "Nyet, Ivan. Even though the shittiest boiler-room advance fee fraud operation running out of a basement in Lagos can spend ten seconds coming up with generic names and bios, this is something that is beyond out capabilities". FWIW, every account that *has* been definitively linked with political influencing by foreign powers *has* had a non-generic username, and I suspect anyone in that trade would be actually pretty pissed off at any suggestion that they would leave such a massive tell in literally the first thing you see. I know this seems like a stupid thing to be getting so wound up about but like I say, it's actually a liberal defence mechanism, and buying into it just enforces their delusions and pushes us further from ever actually getting poo poo done.
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ronya posted:The old strategy was not entirely signal boosting. Rather, bots would use a combination of Markov chain language generators, signal-boosting retweets to churn out shareable content (sometimes inflammatory, but sometimes just bizarre. Remember when horse_ebooks was a thing?), and a small number of human-tuned accounts to generate content that the automated accounts would signal boost (Symantec suggested a 96% automated to 4% manually-piloted ratio amongst its dataset oriented just toward fake news accounts). But the point is that even those primitive early attempts* made even the slightest attempt at legend-making (to use the term of art for coming up with a persona for the person represented by the bot). The lowest-tech bots you see on Twitter (the ones who just slap a picture of a semi-naked woman next to a URL and the contents of the "Trending" list) at least bother to machine-generate a username and avoid all of the other alleged tells of a Russian bot. *And by early I'm talking Sanford Wallace and his cohort of second-wave email spammers in the nineties** who pioneered the use of machine-generated cruft to evade automated spam filters. Unsurprisingly they all moved to social media in the 2000s - they are, by definition, early-adopters (many cut their teeth on junk faxes) - where they've prospered far more than they ever did sending email spam because of the fundamental perverse incentive of a closed ecosystem which is reluctant to close accounts and depress those all-important investor storytime numbers. Spamford would piss himself laughing at these "bots" if they really were machine-generated, rather than just being ordinary members of the public who aren't as terminally online as the Twitterati. ** I've just realised that I've been dealing with this poo poo for over half my life now 
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Years ago in the days of floppy disks, an edict from on high went out that anyone found with a virus on their computer would get sacked. You'll be relieved to hear in the age of the gigabit internet connection this is still the case.
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ronya posted:twitter does/did have a different dynamic from email spam, I think Because if you're going to the effort of coding all that why not code something to find a unique username? The point I've been making is that <name><numbers> as an indicator of either a bot or a sophisticated information warfare operative is bollocks, and provably so because even the lowest-tech spammers on Twitter (and indeed 90s spammers slinging a thousand emails at a time through an open relay) could manage to come up with a better format than that.
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OwlFancier posted:Of course twisto and alice from trashfuture both follow this account. Fairly sure I don't, other than through the Alice filter that is my interface to a lot of bits of Twitter I can't be arsed following because they're too baffling. e: I do see three other UKMT goons there though.
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OwlFancier posted:Might be someone else, I thought council culture was you. It is, and I definitely don't follow that account, but I did reply to Alice RTing one of their posts.
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Guavanaut posted:They make bidet seats that don't need any permanent wiring or plumbing now. Karcher do a battery-operated pressure washer now. The nozzle design even looks about the right angle: 
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Please, coronavirus, do to the attendees of CPAC what that pressure washer would do to someones rusty sheriffs badge. https://twitter.com/PhilipWegmann/status/1236415249772937221
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Isomermaid posted:Rule number one, I think, in being a good writer, is to include not only to pepper your sentences with needless punctuation, but also, using a bunch of needless subordinate clauses that, I'm sure you'll agree, not only make the prose halting and difficult to parse, and make the reader, confused about where it's all going, lose track, ultimately, of what the point even was in the first place, pad out the sentence to paragraph length. This is easily my worst vice as a writer. You can tell how many times I've bothered to edit any bit of writing by how many needless subjunctives there are in it. (Actually my worst vice is to always forget to close at least one set of brackets, which makes me a bad writer and an even worse coder
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Jedit posted:Deleted. What was the Piss Coronavirus? https://twitter.com/fgsPolitics/status/1236395790299533312 Guessing this. The fallout from it also introduced me to Donut Twitter which I suppose is American piss diamond/spider brooch Twitter.
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feedmegin posted:Same, but the massive bags of rice and giant tubs of ghee were fully stocked. The name brand feta had been cleared out but the ASDA Smart Price salad cheese was plentiful. I blame middle class white people. https://twitter.com/johnsweeneyroar/status/1236293689758097408 Scenes. e: loving congratulations Twitter algorithm which somehow displays the right bit in the crop on the site but not in an embed: 
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:i've said it before but when this hits football fans it's too late, they need to stop crowds in stadiums yesterday 250,000 people (give or take) attend football matches every week. That number of people pass through Waterloo Station every single day, and out-of-town shopping centres attract numbers that the FA can only dream of. Not that I'd be averse to them just ending the season and pretending it never happened just to gently caress with scousers, but banning football will have considerably less effect on preventing the spread of infection as banning Ikea (also not a bad idea now I think of it). e: Cos I can't stop myself diving into this sort of thing - if every professional club in London had a home game on the same day (something that even if it were statistically probable is specifically prevented by local policing requirements) and sold out, that would be 431,114 people, or slightly less visitors than Bluewater gets in a week. ee: Bluewater is only the seventh biggest by terms of customer numbers in the UK - Westfield Stratford (which is undoubtedly skewed by the amount of people shortcutting through it) has almost twice as many visitors. goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Mar 8, 2020 |
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