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Mar 28, 2005
New year, new thread!

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Mar 28, 2005

Carecat posted:

If I play this can I also get on the front page of Twitch?

Not you, but someone else probably could.

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Mar 28, 2005
Having not played in a couple months, players seem to play completely different than before. Lots more sneaking around and flanking, going for ambushes and getting the jump on people. A lot less fire fighting. It is the way people should be playing, it's just crazy seeing how different it is now. Scavs hardly ever work together, which is a shame. I've tried to get some scavs to join forces and they just shoot me. I get it and i'm not complaining. I am excited about the changes in 0.13 with scav play though. I can't wait to get on a team and for scavs to start working together against a playerbase that is way geared out and playing smarter. As it stands, while scav play is still fun and can be rewarding (last run last night netted me a PMC kill that netted about 750k, this morning I found a couple keys/paracord and had a run that awarded roughly the same in loot and all done in about 5 minutes) it's quickly becoming "get the jump on someone or die". You almost have to camp as a scav now to have a shot at a PMC kill.

Also, my scavs are spawning with far worse loot. They definitely patched out all the labs keys I used to get. Not saying you can't still get them, but in December every 5-6 scav runs had me spawn with a labs key. I haven't seen one yet.

This is still one of my favorite games. It's only getting better over time too.

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Mar 28, 2005

AntherUslessPoster posted:

throw an akion to support

Did anyone figure out why Akion closed the last thread? Was it just a temper tantrum because he died in this first person shooter game? Was it because we called that guy a cheater?

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Mar 28, 2005

causticBeet posted:

I got 3 scav spawns with labs keys in a row two nights ago and last week my buddy spawned with ~1m roubles worth of keys (2 separate reserve keys) so they definitely have not patched or lowered the value, if anything I feel like they’ve raised it.

Good to know. Just bad luck I guess. I kind of prefer not spawning with anything crazy because it really puts the pressure on. If I spawn with some kind of armor, its not so bad, but scavs seem to never spawn with any armor at all and just die to a soft breeze.

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Mar 28, 2005

VulgarandStupid posted:

Probably because someone accused others who used one of the cheapest and easiest to acquire red-dot sights in the game of being elitists or something.

I didn't even see that. Why people call that scope a tryhard scope i'll never know. Why people get upset that people play this game differently than they do i'll also never know.

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Mar 28, 2005

Kazvall posted:

ran into some chinese hackers on shoreline, got dunked on, shed a single tear

if you see someone named like... douyou_241254151251, that's probably a hacker account.

That was the cool part about this game not being super popular for awhile: less hackers. They were still around, but as the game becomes more popular there will be more and more hackers obviously. Make sure you report the match.

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Mar 28, 2005

Toalpaz posted:

why can't I be connected for longer than 3 seconds.

Yea i've been having a ton of issues the past hour or two. Mostly just can't connect to a match.

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Mar 28, 2005
Servers are pretty fucky right now. Having lots of trouble getting into a match and when I just extracted of a decent scav run, it just sat there forever and I lost all my loot.

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Mar 28, 2005

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Some of those quests literally haven't been touched in years, they'll probably redo them all before beta.

Last podcast I listened to (in December or maybe even November) mentioned that they are all being redone from the ground up. They are still gonna be difficult, as again, they want the course of your play to take place over a very long time, but they are gonna be revamped a little bit to make them not heartbreakingly difficult and ridiculous.

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Mar 28, 2005

upgunned shitpost posted:

I'd rather pay the flea market fun tax for gear and poo poo in a bucket than do a jaeger quest

I completely agree and the ease of making money in this game has made it so I still have some quests from before level 10. I'd rather pay double for some items than deal with the headache of doing some of these quests, just because the money is there and the joy isn't. I really want to get my hideout maxed but gently caress that if it means getting a headache from doing a quest or leveling an attribute.

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Mar 28, 2005
Already answered, but this is why I sometimes hate playing a scav. I'd give up any amount of "good" gear to just have a splint, CMS kit with even 1 charge and a first aid item. 75% of my scav runs are ruined by losing a leg and just having to give up on the run. Just yesterday, I killed a player scav that was camping a window I jumped in (you know the one in Reserve) and lost a leg. Searched the entire area for a splint or painkillers and couldn't find one. That run was ruined. I even tried to just camp in there and wait for someone to come through to hopefully find the right items on their body and had no luck.

It's the main reason i'm beginning to give up on scav runs and just focus on my PMC. I am the biggest proponent of scav runs and the lack of medical care is ruining my love of the mode. You get no armor and no meds (most of the time) and a single shot can just ruin the run.

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Mar 28, 2005

Famethrowa posted:

Learn Interchange. It's pretty easy money if you rush tech store for the GPU, and you have less chance of being sniped long range randomly. Good for learning how to ambush as a Scav too.

I've stepped away from this mentality. My mentality as a scav now is to go directly towards a fight and see what happens. I've gone the route of looting as much as I can and then you die, giving the loot to someone else. Why not be that someone else? Yes, i've had runs where I loot a ton of stuff and get out. But far more often, I get killed in an ambush or by a far outgeared PMC. So now I go after the quickest chance of loot or a fight, then see what happens. If its enough loot to be satisfied, I leave (or try to). If it ain't poo poo, then I keep going. Eventually you just have so much money in this game that a run needs to be worth half a mil to make sense strategically. If my scav run can't pay for a run with my PMC, then why don't I just run with my PMC? Yea, scav runs can be fun, but you are so out-geared that it usually ends in a loss. This isn't necessarily the case early-wipe, but we are basically late wipe now and even the new players are getting better gear because everyone has it. I've seen level 10's with spec'd out M4A1's because they can loot them off anyone else.

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Mar 28, 2005

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

The VSS is by far the best close to mid range weapon in the game, close to zero recoil, its budget ammo is VERY cost effective and it has the best high end ammo in the game. It's also really loving cheap and there is nothing wrong with 20 round mags if you don't want to splurge on the 30 round ones. Also it being silenced (and having subsonic ammo) is a nice benefit and the lack of muzzleflash is really nice for dark maps and areas.

Honestly I have a hard time using a gun that isn't the VSS/ASVAL or the MP-153 shotgun, they're just so goddamn cost effective.


why do idiots who play this game refer to lag as desync? I don't mean you, but any lag spike is immediately called desync.

Cost effective is basically exactly how I would describe both of these guns. Great budget guns i'd look into as new players or players that don't want to take much into a raid. Just be mindful of the drop on the VSS. Subsonic rounds have a crazy drop off you have to get used to. They go slow, but people will not know where you are when you shoot them.

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Mar 28, 2005

Ambaire posted:

Got fed up with my addiction to the flea market and seeming inability to do anything but the flea market (130mil in stash but only 4 pmc runs total? bleh) so I called it quits the night before last and deleted all of my stuff and then reset my account for good measure. RIP 90 million rubles and 40mil of gear but it's not like I was gonna do anything with it anyway.

Maybe I can finally play a different game now.

Heh, who am I kidding. I'll probably reinstall in a few days and start playing the flea market again. And by 'playing', I mean buy underpriced stuff, part it out, sell the high volume stuff on the flea and the rest to vendors.

It's weirdly addicting.

Wow. At least give your poo poo away (to me) if you are gonna "quit". Put all your poo poo into a few valuables then drop it for someone (me). You can pass of a lot of money by just putting it into a few keys inside a SICC case and dropping the case for someone (still me). Then someone (again, me) can do a few thicc runs with thermals and poo poo on your dime.

But I don't admonish you for going for a fresh start. I'll double down on the funnest way to play this game is with nothing and see what you can come out of a raid with. It's just so much fun beating someone that is stacked with gear when you have nothing. Going into a run with a pistol and walking out with S-Tier gear just gives you such a rush. I think that's why I love scav runs so much. You have such a disadvantage, have no risk and can come out feeling like a boss if it goes well. More often than not, you just die to dumb poo poo. But that 1 run when it all works out makes up for that. My last run with a scav was just finding a couple dead bodies on a hill, grabbing their poo poo and running away. I started with nothing and walked out with everything I need for several runs.

It would be so fun to start a competition with no loot and see who can come out with the most rubles with no deaths. Everyone starts with a pistol and after 24 hours, the person with the most rubles after liquidating all their gained assets wins. You die, you lose. That shits dumb as an esports competition, but as a casual thing, it could be very fun to break up the monotony late patch.

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Mar 28, 2005

Sultan Tarquin posted:



I face tapped him with a saiga 9

That's loving awesome.

I love shooting people in the face or legs. gently caress your body armor. The face or the knees don't give a poo poo about you. I know they are reworking armor and will make it more strategic, but until they do, i'm gonna aim for two places: your face or your ankles. Even after the rework, i'm just gonna get more juicy spots. I'll shoot you in the ribs, the thighs, etc. There might be an armor that covers all that, but you are gonna move like a turtle and i'm gonna exploit that.

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Mar 28, 2005

TheTofuShop posted:

Forget face tapping, hit them in the chest with an ap20 slug. :getin:

I'll never use a shotgun after hitting someone with 15 shots and completely destroying their armor, but not getting the kills. I get how shotguns work. I get how ammo works. I've just had bad experiences with them.

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Mar 28, 2005

HORSEPORN posted:

I don’t know if anyone suggested this yet (I didn’t see it) but you can just throw them up on the flea for the equivalent price or less in barter items (ledx or paracord preferably) and you won’t incur the fun tax.

Alternatively, you can put them on the flea market for barter items that vastly outweigh the price of the item. Since it's an icepick, you might as well barter for a THICC case because of course a new player is gonna trade you their THICC case for an icepick. What good value! Nobody understands the economy, you might as well trade stuff you don't need for things you do need.

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Mar 28, 2005

Mortlock posted:

This is another one.

come across a random dead body while doing my Mosin Missions. Decide to ditch some of my stuff as its insured so I can claim his.

Then all of a sudden the killer runs up and starts looting also.

Apologies in advance for my retard brother.

https://streamable.com/9ys16

This seems so fake. Not one of you said oval office during this entire encounter.

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Mar 28, 2005

twig1919 posted:

Red keycard prices are about to get lit.

This was the next thing I was gonna buy. And I did just finish the therapist quest to get the THICC items case. I already have 2 and don't necessarily need a 3rd. Maybe i'll just sell it and buy the keycard or other dumb poo poo.

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Mar 28, 2005
Doubt this is exclusive to labs, but does anyone know if its been reported on other maps? Good reason to stick to scav runs for a sec I guess.

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Mar 28, 2005
Really no point to be running the ice pick right now then. I'll just run with nothing and stick to cheaper loadouts until it dies down.

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Mar 28, 2005
What's the easiest way to level strength right now with the cap? You can't just hit your friend a bunch anymore. Every raid I go into I try and throw a grenade and it's taking forever. Should I just try and melee as many scavs as possible? Strength level 3 is the only thing setting me back from my hideout (that and time).

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Mar 28, 2005

Kikas posted:

Get your gear, buy 2 empty fuel cans and walk through the raid. Just casually walk - running will level you endurance and walking slow will level covert movement.
It's slow as gently caress, but reliable and still faster then grenades.

I forgot about this. Can't you also do something with your secure container? Either way, thank you. This will be way quicker.

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Mar 28, 2005

Ice Fist posted:

I'm level 36, have a hideout that's only incomplete because of laziness combined with a total lack of willpower to complete anything Jaeger related, and I've never done this gas can thing or any other skill cheese. Just playing the game normally will get you all of this stuff. It's not like any of this poo poo is required.

I mean, i'm level 31 and just recently got metabolism to level 3 and am working on strength to level 3. They don't happen as normally as you think. But I do agree that the cheesing poo poo is boring as hell. I've only done it for 2 raids and while I did get like 5 skill points, they are so boring. I've been going to Woods and walking along the outside. Met a couple people just sprinting around to outskirts and killed them, but it's still boring.


Inspector_666 posted:

My Vitality is low because when I get shot I tend to just die immediately :smith:

Metabolism is also kind of annoying but you don't have to really "cheese" it so much as just make a conscious effort to remember to handle your steez in-raid.

Yea I ended up just having to bring some milk into every raid and pop it occasionally. Finally got it done yesterday and was able to start a few upgrades in hideout. All I need now is to hit Str 3 and I can finish it all off and finally, 4 months into the patch, have a bitcoin farm. I've had the graphics cards for months now. I just held onto all the ones I found. I don't find them much anymore but at the start they were pretty easy to find. I haven't found another flash drive in forever either.

Edit: I was wondering when a gaming site would pick up on the Tarkov hackers because its been so popular lately and they did earlier today I guess: https://www.polygon.com/2020/3/10/21173228/escape-from-tarkov-hackers-turn-invisible-looting-bug-hack

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Mar 28, 2005

Inspector_666 posted:

I mean, we're only worried about "grinding" skills out right now because we want to max poo poo out and cruise until the next wipe, theoretically eventually we won't always be racing a clock that will set us back to Level 1.

If you just want to shoot mans and pick up trash, you don't need to do any of this since the only really in-game appreciable differences seem to happen if you seriously max stuff out.

I just want the hideout maxed out and will try to do it quicker in the future because passive income is great. Bitcoin farm and scav box are mainly what I want. That and the ability to craft some things.

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Mar 28, 2005
In the final stages of maxing out my hideout. Got the last level 3's going and then it's just the library and booze generator. After those, i'm done with the hideout and it's off to just doing scav runs until the hacking gets in check.

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Mar 28, 2005
Patch is starting. Game down for the next three hours. I don't remember them saying they'd reset strength and endurance to 0 as part of the patch, but they are. I hit strength 3 just a couple days ago and got the upgrades going, so hopefully nothing lovely happens and my hideout is still upgrading to max.

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Mar 28, 2005
Patching is apparently done, according to their twitter.

Edit: And it is working. Lots of new icons and stuff. Grenade case requires some new things.

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Mar 28, 2005

Sultan Tarquin posted:

price of water filters jumped up to about 140k and air filters are like 500k poo poo is crazy.

Heck yea! Been sitting on tons of these.

Kikas posted:

Yeah there are new barter items and recepies with them right?

Haven't seen many new recipes, but the big new item to barter for seemed to be the grenade box. I know I want one eventually. Can't remember what it took because servers already went down again for backend issues.

Edit: Also forgot about the new backpack, which takes fleece and alpaca and poo poo, plus a paracord. Its a no reduced movement 35 slot that looks like a medic pack. It's great but it's only gonna get used by super try hards. It was already on the flea for 1mil+

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Mar 28, 2005

Inspector_666 posted:

You can only put medical items in it, right? It seems pretty useless except as a MedCase replacement.

I didn't think that was the case. I just assumed it was the S-Tier bag since it requires a ton of rubles to purchase. It mentions "various specialized tools and medicines". It doesn't seem to have any indication it only holds meds. That would also be incredibly weird, but maybe in the future. When you can heal other people in a squad and someone is the "designated medic" and holds/gathers all the meds. Might be cool to see implemented later on.

Edit: also, yes, it appears servers are back up (for now). I wouldn't recommend really playing though, at least for an hour until things seem to stabilize. Last run I did on a scav before it went down made me lose everything, including a pretty profitable key.

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Mar 28, 2005

Inspector_666 posted:

Nikita said on Twitch it would only hold medical items but maybe they didn't actually set that flag up or something yet?

Weird. They should definitely indicate that specially if so. Right now people are probably wasting their resources on it because that seems like a really dumb option for a bag unless "various specialized tools" encompasses a lot of poo poo.

Also, the changes so far feel weird but I like them. I saw some scavs on Reserves with special red sweaters and hoods. I wonder what they are.

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Mar 28, 2005

TTerrible posted:

Are cultists in :staredog:

Nah cultists are only at night and spawn near marked rooms. These were in the field. I think it's just the new outfit that was added. Maybe Shturman wears it?

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Mar 28, 2005

K8.0 posted:

If you think of Nikita as a halfassed Chris Roberts, most things about Tarkov make a lot of sense. He's not an outright scammer like Roberts, but he's very much like Roberts in that his goal is fundamentally poo poo and he's constantly having new bad ideas that make his deeply flawed game more flawed instead of fixing it. There are a lot of things about Tarkov that anyone interested in critically examining game design can look at and go "well yeah, that's clearly a terrible idea" but that's not relevant to Nikita. The point is not to entertain people, the point is to live out his fantasy of creating the lovely game he dreamed up at age 13 with absolutely zero consideration for or concession to the way the game actually plays. The more time passes and the more money he gets, the more he's going to pursue his lovely idea, rather than actually finishing the game people want, or even the game they think they want (not that Nikita can conceptually understand the difference, because he clearly has spent exactly zero seconds of his life thinking critically about game design).

I tend to agree that when you have enough money, you can do what you want rather than what sells but so far, he's done something kind of unique that's working. He just has grand loving ideas that might not play out.

So on Reserves (maybe everywhere?) you now get a pop up saying "scavs have arrived with loot". I don't know if that means the raiders or a brand new type of scav. I think the train maybe arrived after that but I was on the phone and couldn't pay super attention.

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Mar 28, 2005

SquirrelGrip posted:

That’s your scav box

Oh...

First time. I just assumed it was something new they added because a patch just happened and I saw a new scav outfit and on Reserves, raiders arrive.

I did get a tank battery which apparently are unlootable now because they weigh 60kg and immediately make you weight too much. I saw a post on Reddit and when someone looted one, it immediately made them walk at a crawl and hobble. Until people level their strength up, you can't really come to a raid stacked in gear and loot a ton of stuff. Good time to think about what loadouts people will be using with lower strength.

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Mar 28, 2005

concise posted:

Same loadouts as always, Makarov and gamma

With some people running lower tier armor, this is completely viable. I'm gonna run FNs and TTV rigs all night and see what happens. A loaded out FN with silencer is my favorite weapon in the game. That or the Glock Fischer.

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Mar 28, 2005
Oh my god I feel so bad for this player who clearly didn't know about the new weight limits, tried to limp his way out with gear at the 4 minute mark and died to scavs shooting him in the back. He thankfully didn't have insane gear, but it was painful to watch. BIGWIGBO, rest in peace.

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Mar 28, 2005
I like the head bob a bit, honestly. It added a cool element where you can just sprint everywhere and immediately ADS to loving shoot someone. I get that it can make people sick though.

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Mar 28, 2005
Strangest method i've seen of someone leveling strength and endurance so far has been someone running around the tower on Reserves with the machine gun emplacement. They would run laps around the tower (up top) and when their stamina was drained, hop inside to recover. Occasionally they'd fire the machine gun until people figured out what they were up too and popped shots at them. Didn't see the person wielding a gun and I watched for minutes. I was entranced.

People will always find a way.

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Mar 28, 2005

1001 Arabian dicks posted:



welp that didn't take long, lmao at all you guys who are stuck at level 1 again

What did you do?

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