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Yeah, he lost the primaries, and you know what, I'll even hazard it would have happened without all the ratfucking and support reordering surrounding them because this country prefers entertaining mushbrains to be in charge, but he also repeatedly wins out in the "Who would defeat Trump in a primary?" or "Would you rather vote for [Dem candidate] or Trump" polls. The problem is that for Bernie to actually be in that position where he would win out against Trump (which assumes that those higher percentages would also follow lines with electoral college votes, I'd really like to know if there's a state-by-state breakdown of those polls), he has to get through a voting process that dislikes him because he poses a threat to the way they live their lives, or at least believes he does. He, as a candidate, is doomed to always have mass appeal but not nearly enough of it within the party that has to let him through to the actual competition. He's a baseball player that never gets to bat because he holds the bat a little differently from everyone else and the coach really doesn't like that, even though almost every time he's up the ball goes out of the park. I think that coach needs to be fired because he's an rear end in a top hat that thinks he's playing it safe when he doesn't actually understand what's happening and keeps making wrong choices for the team (also he's getting kickbacks to constantly fail so he's still coming out ahead), but I also don't want the other team to win, and for some reason they might have to for us to be able to get rid of this idiot coach. Basically I'm saying I loving hate baseball, and there should be a massive movement to get rid of the Democrat Party, which will probably never happen. Also sorry if the numbers don't back me up anymore, those are what I remember all those polls being though.
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Mar 18, 2020 23:04
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If I'm gonna get someone who is gonna gun for my Social Security Disability, it might as well be Trump... instead of actively voting against my best interests. Also, its not that they ratfucked bernie in terms of fairness, it's that bernie's plans were such that i would be secure in SSD, and if I got a job I would have healthcare that covered my shots. They ratfucked that.
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I think Bernie supporters are making three massive assumptions about the voting public: a. people can make a connection between public policy and their everyday lives, and when Bernie talks about class issues working class people can identify themselves as working class. b. that someone who supports an ambiguous "medicare for all" or "free college education" option on a poll means that they support Bernie's position. c. that those people who do like Bernie Sanders will all bother to show up to vote. You're making a dramatic assumption that when people intake stimulus they can contextualize it and develop an opinion on it based on a preset ideological belief. If Bernie was actually able to inspire a broad movement around him, the results of the primaries wouldn't have actually mattered all that much. Chuka Umana has issued a correction as of 01:15 on Mar 19, 2020 |
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Mar 19, 2020 01:09
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Chuka Umana posted:I think Bernie supporters are making three massive assumptions about the voting public: Are we discussing whether he will win here? Because it's pretty obvious he won't. And yes his ideas are more important than the results of the primary. Great as he is, he's just one guy Also lol at the idea that people can't make connections between public policy and their lives. Explains a lot about succdem strategies
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Mar 19, 2020 02:28
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Jon Do posted:If I'm gonna get someone who is gonna gun for my Social Security Disability, it might as well be Trump... instead of actively voting against my best interests. Trump is actually a safer bet for SSD, because if he attacked it at least Dems would rally against him. Whereas when Biden would go for his grand bargain there'd be no resistance on either side of the aisle
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Mar 19, 2020 02:30
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General Dog posted:In November I am voting for Joe Biden, because I am the last NeverTrump Republican on earth (who doesn’t work for the New York Times) Ah, this explains literally everything about you and your terrible posting
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Mar 19, 2020 02:36
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Jewel Repetition posted:Also lol at the idea that people can't make connections between public policy and their lives. Explains a lot about succdem strategies Provide me a single scrap of evidence that voter choice and party identification is based on effects of said party's public policy.
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Mar 19, 2020 02:55
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Chuka Umana posted:Provide me a single scrap of evidence that voter choice and party identification is based on effects of said party's public policy. Party identification correlates, according to polling, with favoring almost every policy in the Democratic and Republican 2016 platforms
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Mar 19, 2020 03:09
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the thing about bernie is, he brings in people who don't normally vote in elections. that doesn't matter to the democrats as they have selectively decided they don't want those people (lefties, poor whites, other degenerates) edit: nevermind the youth vote, always described generation over generation as "fickle" because they vote for A and get B so ragequit politics Peanut President has issued a correction as of 03:14 on Mar 19, 2020 |
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The worst submarine posted:i lurk c-spam for the funny pictures and the trump laughs, seeing all the bernie-or-busters made me upset because i didn't understand. thanks to Jewel Repetition I get it a little now, but not voting still feels like a silly position. obviously a lot of people here really feel like it's the correct non-silly position, so there's a disconnect! Both the Democratic party and the GOP are our enemies. The GOP is the worse enemy, but the Dems are the more vulnerable one, and the one we are best positioned to change / replace. It's not just a question about the 2020 presidential election, it's about how best to conduct an ongoing struggle against both parties.
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Mar 19, 2020 03:57
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keep voting assholes
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Mar 19, 2020 03:57
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Homeless Friend posted:keep voting assholes I'm reloading
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Mar 19, 2020 04:26
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Chuka Umana posted:If Bernie was actually able to inspire a broad movement around him, the results of the primaries wouldn't have actually mattered all that much.
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Mar 19, 2020 04:46
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Peanut President posted:the thing about bernie is, he brings in people who don't normally vote in elections. that doesn't matter to the democrats as they have selectively decided they don't want those people (lefties, poor whites, other degenerates) the dem party thinks of certain voters as “theirs” and blames them for failing the party when they dont turn up to vote. bernie tries to convince people that they should vote, and vote for him, because his ideas align w their values. the dems party is genuinely annoyed that he doesnt “donate” “his” voters up to the party, because they think that he can just do that—just tell voters what to do because they are on his team and he is the team leader. the complaints about him not really being a dem are partially rooted in this—that he is “stealing” their voters or putting up a barrier to those voters doing what they demographically “should” do, which is vote for the dem nominee reliably. the other, related part of the complaint is from the party having a v corporate middle management culture, where you earn yr promotions and raises by service to the institution and not making trouble. bernie (and aoc + other surprise primary winners in machine states) offend that sense because they jump in line and disrupt the careerist order by actually persuading voters
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Mar 19, 2020 15:35
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Homeless Friend posted:keep voting assholes wearing my ring for the goatse party
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Mar 19, 2020 15:35
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This guy wrote a good piece about how the olds want our energy but not our values https://twitter.com/SeanRMoorhead/status/1240427531347480576 I'll be tear drinking and grave dancing regardless of who wins in november 
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Mar 19, 2020 15:41
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Joe Biden gave Quentin Tarantino and Joss Whedon their foot fetishes. He is funneling all his campaign money into funding a film they're co-creating that's just feet talking to each other.
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Mar 19, 2020 16:25
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https://twitter.com/ericbradner/status/1240363525027123201 This tweet is like a political rorschach test. If you're a bernie supporter you're reaction is  if you're a Biden lich it's 
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Mar 19, 2020 16:36
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Homeless Friend posted:keep voting assholes Jewel Repetition posted:I'm reloading
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Mar 19, 2020 18:48
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I'm reloading my rear end in a top hat.
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Mar 19, 2020 19:03
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Koishi Komeiji posted:This guy wrote a good piece about how the olds want our energy but not our values wow osaka is a genious
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Mar 19, 2020 19:22
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so when the DNC inevitably gets hacked again how hilariously blatant do you think the scale-thumbing talk in their emails is gonna be
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:so when the DNC inevitably gets hacked again how hilariously blatant do you think the scale-thumbing talk in their emails is gonna be "Oh hey we 'accidentally' sent 150 voting machines to... whogivesafuck... looks like bernie territory has to deal with only having 3 machines right?"
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Mar 19, 2020 23:24
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Maya Fey posted:wow osaka is a genious I was worried about her but she turned out all right in the end. https://twitter.com/proustmalone/status/1240735346956042242 Joe Biden is worse than trump.
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Mar 19, 2020 23:47
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We choose truth over fats
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Mar 20, 2020 00:29
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Koishi Komeiji posted:https://twitter.com/ericbradner/status/1240363525027123201 Bernie Sanders used a curse word? Well I never. Better vote for Joe “decency and integrity” Biden when I request my absentee ballot
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Mar 20, 2020 07:48
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The virgin Biden: https://twitter.com/karavoght/status/1241074119267016706 The Chad sanders: 
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Mar 21, 2020 01:00
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is there video evidence that biden said these things?
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Mar 21, 2020 01:14
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joe biden is a rapist
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Mar 25, 2020 20:21
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Raskolnikov38 posted:joe biden is a rapist it worked for the incumbent
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taqueso posted:it worked for the incumbent Oh man, they really think accusations of hypocrisy work in the general. When both sides are bad, people vote republican or don't vote
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Mar 25, 2020 21:46
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Koishi Komeiji posted:I was worried about her but she turned out all right in the end. I hate him especially how he uses the same tactics that Trump uses such as repeating the same lie again and again. Universal healthcare would be worse than for profit healthcare!
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Mar 25, 2020 23:06
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I DISAVOW THIS THREAD AND EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR. I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR JOE BIDEN IN THE ELECTION. MODS LOCK PLS
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Mar 26, 2020 22:28
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I have news that will lead to the arrest of Joe Biden.
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Mar 26, 2020 22:40
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I want biden to campaign from jail
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Mar 26, 2020 22:51
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Chuka Umana posted:I DISAVOW THIS THREAD AND EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR. Thank you.
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Mar 26, 2020 23:08
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Chuka Umana posted:I DISAVOW THIS THREAD AND EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR. Wimp
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Chuka Umana posted:I DISAVOW THIS THREAD AND EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR. Welcome, brother.
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