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Field Mousepad posted:Ahh yeah, I hope it isn't something lame like a car accident or some poo poo like that. 
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Mar 26, 2020 15:42
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Goddamnit  Still a great episode though
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Mar 26, 2020 16:01
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Deterministic distracted driving
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Mar 26, 2020 16:28
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I like how Katie was seeing multiple outcomes superimposed because she is running the many-worlds version of the algorithm. This also means that we can't really be sure whether any of the stuff she saw is what actually happened.
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Mar 26, 2020 20:32
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Can someone explain to me the beginning of the second to last episode, where we see 2 people go into DEVS and the programmers assume it's an earthquake tremor? Have we seen those people before? and if not, are we to assume Katie knew it wasn't a tremor? Did i miss this explanation?
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Mar 27, 2020 17:37
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stoops posted:Can someone explain to me the beginning of the second to last episode, where we see 2 people go into DEVS and the programmers assume it's an earthquake tremor? I thought it was an actual tremor and it wobbled the airlock thingie a bit, and Forest was at the Devs entrance with his hands on the ground feeling it. It was just a couple rando devs programmers in the airlock, we’ve seen a lot of unnamed coders in there apart from Stewart and Lyndon.
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Mar 27, 2020 17:47
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This show's score is just loving incredible. It gives me chills the same way Hannibal score did.
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Mar 28, 2020 22:51
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so the Everett model is the multiverse model or it's deterministic? It was kind of described as being both
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Mar 29, 2020 06:55
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:so the Everett model is the multiverse model or it's deterministic? It was kind of described as being both Yes. The Everett model is deterministic in the sense that ALL futures are determined to happen, just in different worlds. We can calculate exactly what will happen in the future because it is every option at the same time. This still doesn't allow us to predict a specific future, of course, which is why Forest finds it unsatisfying.
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Mar 29, 2020 07:18
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it also doesn't absolve him of his sin, which gives his monologue in episode 1 another dimension
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Apr 1, 2020 18:58
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Man, this is getting wild.
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Apr 2, 2020 21:21
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veni veni veni posted:Man, this is getting wild. Yeah I was glued to the screen  This one was a lot of talking but I was totally captivated. This show is a great advertisement for OLED screens as so many scenes have real serious contrasts. The night shots flying over San Fran especially. I cannot wait for next week’s episode already.
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Apr 2, 2020 21:39
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priznat posted:Yeah I was glued to the screen this show is absolutely loving gorgeous on my lg oled. i want the scenic shots in 4k hdr on a rotating spool with the soundtrack behind it.
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Apr 2, 2020 22:05
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Ammanas posted:this show is absolutely loving gorgeous on my lg oled. i want the scenic shots in 4k hdr on a rotating spool with the soundtrack behind it. Yeah I don’t know if it intentional but it reminds me a lot of the fantastic appletv screensavers. Lots of SF ones there too.
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Apr 2, 2020 22:11
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Alison Pill is absolutely killing it in this role
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Apr 3, 2020 02:08
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Mover posted:Alison Pill is absolutely killing it in this role I didn't even recognize her for the first couple of times she was onscreen, I know her best from Scott Pilgrim. Her stare is gd unsettling at times.
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Apr 3, 2020 04:20
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priznat posted:I didn't even recognize her for the first couple of times she was onscreen, I know her best from Scott Pilgrim. Her stare is gd unsettling at times. She has to be at least partially inspired by Elizabeth Holmes. Those dead eyes...
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Apr 3, 2020 05:35
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priznat posted:I didn't even recognize her for the first couple of times she was onscreen, I know her best from Scott Pilgrim. Her stare is gd unsettling at times. She's a killer actress on a ton of things. She actually managed to go to toe with Ian McFucking Shane.
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Apr 3, 2020 07:24
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Only realized today that the name is basically DEUS with a roman U. The way Forest and Katie were discussing Lily and Jaime's personalities at the end of the episode felt like the way people discuss fiction. On the one hand that's consistent with tech bros not really viewing humanity as real people and instead just tools, but also I was starting to wonder if there's an element of Forest being a stand-in for an artistic creator. Lily's seemingly being turned into a martyr to help Forest process his trauma, but I feel like there's a kind of meta element of examining why we demand characters like her die for our benefit in art in general.
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Apr 3, 2020 07:25
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I think I figured out the twist of Devs. Its not a coincidence that the show has the crucification of Christ in it. the show is going to end up revealing that Lily is the second coming of Christ, and that is what breaks causality. Once its revealed, this becomes a christian show, and she will absolve the Devs of their sins. It will be revealed that Katie was just searching for faith in something, and she chose the wrong path of science instead of Christianity.
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Apr 4, 2020 04:07
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Lily isn’t the second coming of Christ the computer is.
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Apr 4, 2020 04:32
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I've just caught up after watching all the episodes over the past couple of days. I love the premise and the style, but hate the dialog. The cast is okay but the exposition scenes make me cringe. This seems to be a symptom of all TV series these days.
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Apr 4, 2020 05:11
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Personally I think the deadpan dialog works extremely well but ymmv.
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Apr 4, 2020 10:58
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this show is so beautiful
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Apr 4, 2020 12:49
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Laserface posted:The impression I was getting is that they are using AI to predict the state of every atom in the known universe at any point in time so as to view what happened and when. I'm really getting into this. It's loving great. They sure say "Yes." quite a lot.
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Apr 6, 2020 21:27
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Wow
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priznat posted:Wow
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Apr 9, 2020 07:20
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Can I just say, spoiler free, that drat I wish there were way more episodes left than just the one next week. But really if it was open ended it wouldn’t be as good. It’s basically a 16 hour movie!
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Apr 9, 2020 07:28
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I have no idea how this is going to end but the christ imagery is feeling super deliberate at this point. i think some of the wilder theories itt might not be that far off even if it's all just symbolic in some way. Also, everyone should watch this ep with a decent pair of headphones or surround sound if they can. It's already the most visually stunning episode but some of the audio fuckery really takes it to the next level, so at the very least don't just watch it with TV speakers.
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Apr 9, 2020 07:49
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Agreed, the Stewart quote soliloquy was especially great, sound wise.
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Apr 9, 2020 07:55
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Indeed. Also the entire opening sequence and end credits.
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Apr 9, 2020 07:59
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This was a great episode, but I didn't like the sudden credits right when it felt like the episode was reaching a climax. I have a feeling that Lily will walk into the viewing room, and Forest will be in there watching the future or whatever. Then the Lily on screen shoots forest as revenge for Kenton killing both of her boyfriends. Real Lily sees it, freaks out and decides not to shoot Forest. That's what breaks the deterministicness of the universe or whatever. She introduces something that was truly random and that breaks the machine.
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Apr 9, 2020 08:48
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drat this is incredible stuff. What's the ETA for the upcoming Alex Garland + Denis Villeneuve joint project? Please?? Based on the multiverse-theory visual depictions we've seen already, would I be correct in interpreting that Lyndon falls in all possible universes? That's brutal, considering the preceeding conversation. Also (previous episode) shoutout to homeless guy outside Stewart's trailer, who is previewed in shot 4 of episode 1, which I caught on a re-watch. OTC fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Apr 9, 2020 |
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Apr 9, 2020 09:11
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OTC posted:Based on the multiverse-theory visual depictions we've seen already, would I be correct in interpreting that Lyndon falls in all possible universes? That's brutal, considering the preceeding conversation. That is the impression I got, yes. I think the scene was ultimately less about Lyndon and more about Katie's descent into to total nihilism. since in the end Lyndon always falls and her reaction slowly goes from shock to not giving a flying gently caress
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Apr 9, 2020 09:22
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So that's why Forest and Katie were so nice to Jamie and Lily the night before.Cojawfee posted:This was a great episode, but I didn't like the sudden credits right when it felt like the episode was reaching a climax. I have a feeling that Lily will walk into the viewing room, and Forest will be in there watching the future or whatever. Then the Lily on screen shoots forest as revenge for Kenton killing both of her boyfriends. Real Lily sees it, freaks out and decides not to shoot Forest. That's what breaks the deterministicness of the universe or whatever. She introduces something that was truly random and that breaks the machine. I sure hope the show doesn't end in this unspeakably lame way. Anyways, Garland generally doesn't go for the predictable ending. Martman posted:Only realized today that the name is basically DEUS with a roman U. ...drat, can't believe I didn't notice that.
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Apr 9, 2020 09:59
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veni veni veni posted:I think the scene was ultimately less about Lyndon and more about Katie's descent into to total nihilism. Edit: I've watched the scene again and Katie says I've watched you fall many times which can be read several different ways, each more terrifying than the last. mr. unhsib posted:I sure hope the show doesn't end in this unspeakably lame way. Lily shoots the Devs computer and ends existence, hence not being able to view past that point. The universe is simulated by Devs, which is contained within the universe it's simulating. "The box contains everything" i.e. including itself. OTC fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Apr 9, 2020 |
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Apr 9, 2020 11:13
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it is interesting to me that in garland's first novel, the main character discusses many worlds with someone. we really like to latch onto some bullshit and just bang on about it for the rest of our lives huh...
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Apr 9, 2020 11:34
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Cojawfee posted:This was a great episode, but I didn't like the sudden credits right when it felt like the episode was reaching a climax. I have a feeling that Lily will walk into the viewing room, and Forest will be in there watching the future or whatever. Then the Lily on screen shoots forest as revenge for Kenton killing both of her boyfriends. Real Lily sees it, freaks out and decides not to shoot Forest. That's what breaks the deterministicness of the universe or whatever. She introduces something that was truly random and that breaks the machine. If that's what happens then it'll be a real dumb ending. OTC posted:Based on the multiverse-theory visual depictions we've seen already, would I be correct in interpreting that Lyndon falls in all possible universes?
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Tiggum posted:The thing that's bothering me is, if it's possible to change the future once you know it then it pretty much has to be unavoidable. There's no way that Katie could have seen her own future and not have that affect her in some way and therefore alter what she does, even if only slightly. If Lily breaks the machine (or universe) by not doing what she was predicted to do then that should already have happened. Katie is in some sort of paradox loop. She always knew what her future would be because it was predicted before she lived it, and she resigns herself to that because she never sees herself break out of it, and it never predicts her breaking out because she never tries, etc, etc. With Lily, I think the universe will break because it's a simulated universe we've been watching. It can't simulate whatever she's about to do, just like they couldn't simulate the organism in episode 1. Stewarts dialogue made me feel pretty confident that's happening.
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