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Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Think i read that the new "official" skater xl content drops on the 11th.

Idc about the clothes really but new maps sounds good

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Casual Combustion
Jan 12, 2003

Skater XL update dropped today, it's been a bit buggy so far (only 2 of the 3 maps are showing up for me, couldn't get the game to load into any of the new ones at first) but hopefully it'll work itself out. It seems like they've messed with the vert ramp physics as well. Did they list full patch notes anywhere? The update history is just changes & bug fixes. Getting some crazy FPS drops on occasion as well but I'm hoping that's something to do with downloading & not some fun new bug they've introduced.

e: they've managed to make their game worse! congrats to easy day on this nearly impossible accomplishment. wish I could refund this poo poo

Casual Combustion fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Dec 16, 2020

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
I saw a tweet saying they're working on it but I lost it or else I'd link it.

Casual Combustion
Jan 12, 2003

Intel&Sebastian posted:

I saw a tweet saying they're working on it but I lost it or else I'd link it.

I saw this as well and obviously I would hope that they are, but my patience was already thin after putzing around the same 6 or 7 maps (or if we're being honest, like 2 or 3 maps--high school, LA, streets) for the last 6 months for them to finally provide an update that's essentially just letting console players have access to the same stuff PC people have had forever, and not even access to the things that would make the new maps playable. Quebec on console is just stupid, I was excited for Applewood but the FPS issues are making it basically unplayable, and riverfern was obviously designed with moddable physics as well. Half the time I try to air out in the halfpipe on Riverfern I just crash into the rafters. It feels like they didn't even playtest, I just don't understand how you let this out the door after keeping people in the dark so long.

e: heres a dumb gap, they didn't patch out the speed glitch at least (ollie, grab w/ your right hand and push both sticks forward, release when you're about to hit the ground)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_9Gkeuij8c

Casual Combustion fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Dec 17, 2020

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
yeah I can't say I regret getting in on early access on steam because i've had a lot of fun with it but I haven't had it installed on my computer since the week after 1.0 launched. Just barely feels like an early access game now before they did whatever they did to break it. Session devs arent really much better at keeping regular communication but at least they still have the excuse of it being in early access

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

It's pretty crazy that the consoles are having performance issues, my PC is from 2013 with a two year old video card and it can run SXL at 4K no issues. I have seen some modded maps being my machine down so there is a breaking point but it's usually silly poo poo with snow particles and a Brazilian rain forest worth of trees.

I would have figured an optimization pass on the maps would have easily gotten them to work well on the consoles, this game really isn't doing all that much. One dynamic object testing collisions on a cube is peanuts compared to what some other games out there are doing.

Big Scary Owl
Oct 1, 2014

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/actionofcreate/status/1339256498128474112

Hoping they show some good stuff

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
session devs keep teasing sweet looking stuff without a date and its absolutely ball busting. I can't wait for the next update.

https://twitter.com/actionofcreate/status/1349840697310908420?s=20

like this is basically an integrated version of bells and whistles that come with the main mod that you need for skater xl to be playable.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Yeah the customization is looking really drat good, there's a few youtubers that have put up some preview videos.

They just need to nail the character animations now because everything still looks super wooden.

SquirrelGrip
Jul 4, 2012
One of the devs said animations are getting some love after the physics stuff is sorted, keen for this update though

Casual Combustion
Jan 12, 2003

Session just keeps looking better and better, hopefully they say something about a PS4 release soon. Skater XL is at least updated a little on consoles so the frame drops aren't quite as frequent, buggy as ever tho and god drat do I want like a stats menu or something at this point, if I had anything else to scratch that skate itch (even just regular rear end skate) I would drop this thing but it's like the only game in town. Also here's a tour of quebec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQvUGL_Ti1M

Big Scary Owl
Oct 1, 2014

by Fluffdaddy
Session news: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/861650/view/5584994155096947101

Key points:
Session devs got a publishing deal, so that should help with development.
The new update is "right around the corner this month!"
New riders coming to the game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_7q7ksGc6I

Big Scary Owl
Oct 1, 2014

by Fluffdaddy
SkaterXL devs just put out the most non-statement statement ever: http://skaterxl.com/skater-xl-studio-update-check-out-our-qa-answering-the-communities-most-asked-questions/

Easy Day Studios: But hey check out this cool modded map though!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDrJaDnKQ7g

lmao

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

That is a really pretty map though.

I think EZD is kind of pissing away their goodwill, players seem pretty frustrated with the game. They're clearly working on it constantly but the visible results take way too long to go public. Guess that's the problem with people expect AAA response from a company with a dozen or so employees.

Example: a recent patch to the game added some dll's to the game folder that can be imported into Unity to aid in making maps. That's cool and good. But it's been three weeks and no one knows how to use them because there's zero documentation and EZD apparently only distributes information to one or two community members who have been too busy to generate tutorials.

Casual Combustion
Jan 12, 2003

I don't think they have very much goodwill left to piss away, from how this response is being taken by the community. I can say for myself that I'm aware they're a smaller studio, but I also don't think it's an insane proposition that a smaller studio might have been able to put out some sort of content updates for their game after being out for nearly a year at this point, to not even have a roadmap beyond "we have ideas for the game!" just isn't excusable. I don't think it's absurd to expect that in that amount of time they could've put more work into the game beyond going to mod.io and downloading an SDK or whatever

SquirrelGrip
Jul 4, 2012
Session update is happening this month according to their recent posts and replies

Big Scary Owl
Oct 1, 2014

by Fluffdaddy
Apparently the SkaterXL lead developer quit sometime ago, anyone know about this? I read about it just now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnZ8iWoeudE

Links:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SkaterXL/comments/kl2ujm/looks_like_the_lead_developer_is_no_longer_with/

https://www.reddit.com/r/SkaterXL/comments/kv419k/skater_xl_lead_developer_quits/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/962730/discussions/0/5544461758362349785/

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺

SquirrelGrip posted:

Session update is happening this month according to their recent posts and replies

People in the twitter replies for the post saying 'its coming this January' asking if they can give a more detailed release date have to be taking the piss at this point

SquirrelGrip
Jul 4, 2012

Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

People in the twitter replies for the post saying 'its coming this January' asking if they can give a more detailed release date have to be taking the piss at this point

Id ask the same thing as a joke but I doubt these people are.

They also announced a vx1000 filter for the camera, and it looks like mod maps still work as well.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"
https://www.engadget.com/ea-full-circle-skate-4-studio-175608905.html

https://www.ea.com/ea-studios/full-circle

On Skate 4 front:
"EA has formed a new studio to develop the next Skate game. On Wednesday, the publisher announced the existence of Full Circle, which,
like previous Skate developer Black Box, will be based out of Vancouver, Canada.
EA has tapped Daniel McCulloch, who was previously the head of Xbox Live at Microsoft, to lead Full Circle as general manager.
He’ll be joined by two series veterans, Deran Chung and Chris “Cuz” Parry, who EA says will serve as the game’s creative leadership. "

A new studio 'Full Circle' is currently recruiting for lot of positions.
So game will probably not be out in 2021.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Neato, hopefully it's a bunch of BB people being rehired

Big Scary Owl
Oct 1, 2014

by Fluffdaddy
Here's hoping Sk4te ends up a great game as well.

In other news, it seems like the 0.0.0.67(?) update for Session just stealth dropped on PC

Update news link: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/861650/view/3016817621862601188

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I might have to get into Session mapping and convert my map to it, no work needed to make surfaces grindable? That's a massive improvement over SXL because setting up grinds is by far the most painful part of mapping for that game.

That's a drat slick patch.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
Skate 4 moving fowards and getting a firm team is exciting news, as is the session update dropping. i'm going to find my controller now!

SquirrelGrip
Jul 4, 2012

xzzy posted:

I might have to get into Session mapping and convert my map to it, no work needed to make surfaces grindable? That's a massive improvement over SXL because setting up grinds is by far the most painful part of mapping for that game.

That's a drat slick patch.

Minimal work required, build your mesh and let unreal create the collision meshes automatically. Only weirdness is round rails, it’s best to custom make a collision mesh yourself. Rest is easy, the mod map importer has a project watcher for easy testing.

Patch is good but without tweaking the settings it ain’t easy, and some of the settings you can tweak will flat out make it frustrating if that’s your thing

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

SquirrelGrip posted:

Minimal work required, build your mesh and let unreal create the collision meshes automatically. Only weirdness is round rails, it’s best to custom make a collision mesh yourself. Rest is easy, the mod map importer has a project watcher for easy testing.

Is there a mapping community? All the top google hits are from 2019.

SquirrelGrip
Jul 4, 2012
check yo pm's

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"
Something new coming in december:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sc9tFOpnUc

Looks very promising and less arcadey than the Riders Republic.

Arzachel
May 12, 2012
That looks really good!

Dr. Chainsaws PhD
May 21, 2011

a new session dropped a couple days ago and it improved the replay editor a bit, added new maps, extended some others, and also various tweaks, like simulated cloud cover. i think session is shaping up to be an awesome game and it really scratches that skate 2 realism "find a cool spot and go nuts" itch. heh, nuts itch

just remember to work on leg strength before you go skating ;)

https://i.imgur.com/a8m2SSm.mp4

Big Scary Owl
Oct 1, 2014

by Fluffdaddy
This game is looking great

https://twitter.com/skatestorygame/status/1415876652979138561?s=09

Been a while since I played Session, I should try out the new update

Big Scary Owl
Oct 1, 2014

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/skateEA/status/1416804987645022216

Very cool that they are being open about the status of the game. Wonder what they'll show.

Dr. Chainsaws PhD
May 21, 2011

probably not anything heavy since they’re still hiring across the board (heh) but i dunno, maybe a map reveal? :yum:

although that also seems like a lot to reveal. loving, uhh... confirmation that it’s skate 4 and not some sort of mobile game i guess?

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"
They could be confirming some of the pro-skaters involved? Or it could be a short, prerendered teaser.

Gimme the Olympic Gold Medalist Andy Anderson!

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"
It is here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMyP2Bheli4

Verdict: Hyped, Disappointed, Excited.
Skate 4 is a land of contrasts

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Just remember it's 2020's EA, it's gonna have loot crates and currency out the rear end.

I'm still kinda hype though, it's big enough a name that hopefully a good goon community shows up because the goonskate days were a heap of fun. Xl and session don't seem to have gotten any real momentum.

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

xzzy posted:

Just remember it's 2020's EA, it's gonna have loot crates and currency out the rear end.

I'm still kinda hype though, it's big enough a name that hopefully a good goon community shows up because the goonskate days were a heap of fun. Xl and session don't seem to have gotten any real momentum.
Whatever cosmetic loot boxes they add cannot be worse than charging $10 to unlock the free camera in replays in skate 2.

SquirrelGrip
Jul 4, 2012

Dr. Chainsaws PhD posted:

a new session dropped a couple days ago and it improved the replay editor a bit, added new maps, extended some others, and also various tweaks, like simulated cloud cover. i think session is shaping up to be an awesome game and it really scratches that skate 2 realism "find a cool spot and go nuts" itch. heh, nuts itch

just remember to work on leg strength before you go skating ;)

https://i.imgur.com/a8m2SSm.mp4

New update is good, replay editor doesn’t suck so hard I avoid it now. Needs their animation overhaul and MP before more people take notice and get onboard IMO.

zelah
Dec 1, 2004

Diabetes, you are not invited to my pizza party.

xzzy posted:

Xl and session don't seem to have gotten any real momentum.

Yeah I made the 1 XL video and felt done.

There’s just enough animation jank that I gave up trying to make stuff look cool

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Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
The ESPN daily podcast had Gary Rogers (Skateline guy) on as a guest and he sounds like he's so depressed about Olympic Skateboarding that he's to go walk into the ocean.

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