Hahaha man they were just drunk as poo poo on their enormous royalties by then weren't they
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2020 18:08 |
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# ¿ May 20, 2024 22:13 |
biracial bear for uncut posted:Honestly Rachel got poo poo on pretty hard by the series. Mmmmm, their ends all make sense though. Rachel is pretty much a pure warrior by the end of the series and wouldn't have survived peace. Cassie tried to get out several times and finally succeeded. It felt earnt. Honestly having done a whole series read through a couple years back you could probably skip about 20 books and not really miss anything of note.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2020 19:54 |
It adds a nice touch to the story that they even stop to think about it though.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2020 00:34 |
They're teenagers.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2020 02:22 |
Yeah, I could have worded that a bit better. I meant 'I'll give them a little leeway in not really getting the nuances of what they're doing right, because teenagers are dumb as poo poo.' Not 'don't think about it'. You're pretty much on the money with your analysis, and again, it's nice to see that even books like this take the time to consider such questions.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2020 02:42 |
The best part of THAT is that the characters are well written enough that it carries some emotional weight
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2020 05:06 |
SardonicTyrant posted:Visser Three is great because it's pretty easy to see that all the times he conveniently appears and spots the Animorphs is because he's insanely paranoid and flips out over random animals all the time. He's not wrong though. Hell for all his obvious prowess in combat, he's now been hit in his Yeerk pool, his Blade ship during what should have been an easy prisoner handoff, and now a ship got blowed up good. And he still has no idea of what he is up against or how many there are. If word of this gets back to head office, at best he loses command, I'd be starting to flip out too.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2020 23:40 |
Well it was pretty clear they only gave a poo poo about having fun, so, yes?
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2020 01:21 |
I certainly remember whales being very, very mysterious in the 90s when I grew up. I vaguely recall a lot of research being done into how they communicated and what they communicated and gently caress it y'all I'm all on board with whale buddy. Save some human dolphins, save it up as a story to get laid. Why the hell not.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2020 00:49 |
OctaviusBeaver posted:People used to be really into whales and dolphins. This would have been a few years after Free Willy came out and kids were all about that. This isn't even close to the dumbest thing they find in the ocean though. That book is like the Rachel starfish one. It doesn't exist.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2020 03:09 |
Radio Free Kobold posted:Couldn't they also swim out there as dolphins, morph back to human (one by one, supported by the others as dolphins), then re-morph? Ah well, same thing either way really. This guy has put more thought into their plan than any of them have It's pretty much a recurring theme isn't it? Flying by the seat of their pants and half-assing everything?
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2020 03:14 |
Soup du Jour posted:Liberia is also a common port of call for ships to avoid taxes. A lot of cruise liners are based there. Ships in general, not just cruise
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2020 01:37 |
Speaking as a nautical type guy, they have no idea just how loving dangerous this was. I'd expect a drop of somewhere between 10-15m from the freeboard deck of a container vessel to the water, which is enough to cause serious injury if you land wrong, or unconsciousness if you're really unlucky. Plus, as Cassie mentions, the ship is in motion. Water does all kinds of crazy poo poo with large bodies moving, so one direct result would be that as the ship pushes forward they would be dragged against the hull. Probably not enough to do any damage in and of itself, but if they aren't morphed and swimming away by the time they get to the stern, there is a very real chance of being mulched by the prop.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2020 01:41 |
Well your avatar checks out
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2020 11:54 |
Avalerion posted:Ha. I was spoiled on Ax but not the details. The "non human" in a party like this is usually an older and experienced mentor figure who can teach and guide the heroes, here he's being painted as a clueless kid just as out of their depth as the others. That's... not at all what I expected, interesting twist on that trope. How I envy you.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2020 10:27 |
I don't see how you could make a good film of it, but hey, give it a go!
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2020 17:50 |
The first Megamorphs would probably do alright as a film. Especially if told from the viewpoint of Rachel starting from when she wakes up.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2020 18:36 |
Fuschia tude posted:Actually, that kind of is a point. Why'd they put the band Because now you think hell yeah they can win, leading into the utterly crushing defeat they suffer next book. The only reason they even survive is because Visser One hates Visser Three more than them.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2020 09:37 |
Don't forget the whole part about the Andalites being ready to blast their world into slag at a moment's notice. The Yeerks are better villains than a lot I could think of.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2020 14:38 |
PetraCore posted:I just wonder how much the infestation process changes yeerks themselves, since we know they basically form a thin cellular layer over the brain folds and presumably send in specialized organs to link up with the neuron network. It makes sense to me that they're so vulnerable, because that method of infestation probably means a lot of their own tissues are neuron-dense and extremely sensitive as a result. But by hijacking another person's brain, they're not just stealing access to the neurons that control their bodily functions. I don't think we ever see them being able to forcibly change someone's internal thought processes, but it's not exactly for lack of trying in some cases, so I wonder if there's any subconscious backwash or if they're too focused on fine bodily control. Again, I'm getting ahead of myself, but this is the stuff I'm gonna be thinking about as we advance. It's discussed in Visser. Visser One talks about the first human infestation and going 'holy gently caress, their brains can come to way better decisions than ours because they can second-guess themselves.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2020 01:44 |
The ongoing Prince Jake joke kills me
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2020 00:35 |
You could reasonably assume Tom found out something he shouldn't have and was taken kicking and screaming, since he tried to fistfight Visser Three.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2020 02:04 |
From memory that whole saga happens after Jake gives the speech of "we need to be asking ourselves if something is expedient, not if it's right" and they go full terrorist. it's interesting to me that a lot of people jump on that event in particular and not them bombing the Yeerk pool with however much collateral damage that inflicts.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2020 00:40 |
If you don't like whales kicking the crap out of Visser Three why are you even here
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2020 00:09 |
Yeah, he's wearing the mask to everyone else, but he is really honest with himself. And he would be absolutely in love with Rachel completely, if he wasn't so obviously terrified of her.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2020 01:20 |
I honestly never picked up on Marco having a crush on Jake, it just seemed like a deep friendship to me. But, I'll be the first to admit I can miss cues
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2020 17:44 |
Avalerion posted:Chekhov's Gun's, this seems very blatant about something being of, so she's most definitely still alive. Tobias is Marco's mom
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2020 00:53 |
She does a great job selling just how loving brutal the animal kingdom really is.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2020 01:43 |
Soup du Jour posted:our galactic saviors, almost defeated by ants MODS?!!!
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2020 23:19 |
Just gonna point out that Ax says he's never fought a battle before, and that they've used this frequency before. His lack of experience is showing. Imagine being the Taxxon who picked up that signal. I bet 50:1 Visser Three killed him for incompetence before seeing actually yes, it was a distress call on that same frequency that had been a trap in the past.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2020 22:15 |
nine-gear crow posted:I'd be interested to see who says this was an out and out surprise to, give the almost assembly line pattern of "Dead Mom... Visser One.. Dead Mom... Visser One..." foreshadowing throughout the book leading up to this point. It was when I first read it.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2020 23:37 |
She really, really is, though.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2020 02:17 |
Radio Free Kobold posted:i always thought it worked on klingon rules; you kill the guy and take his visser number Its partly competence, and partly this, I think
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2020 02:19 |
It also makes sense tactically to have the youngest and weakest expose themselves as the spokesperson. If the others are only seen in morph, he can't be certain he has them all.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2020 02:48 |
I guess she isn't Tobias then
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2020 09:38 |
As we find out, if Visser One was in charge it would have been over before it began. She is ferociously competent and cold-blooded in the extreme.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2020 20:40 |
Khizan posted:I’d have to agree that Marco is the best narrator, so far. Just wait until he finally talks Rachel into his bed.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2020 07:00 |
Yeah, I think I like Marco best, and Rachel gets a lot of depth to her too. They're all honestly really good characters. The tobias-Ax bromance is excellent too.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2020 08:25 |
Avalerion posted:We don’t really have a clear picture of how far reaching the infiltration is, if half the towns population has been yeerked then it wouldn’t be that weird. I don't think we ever really do. They're very clearly limited in terms of manpower, but they seem to have a lot of very well placed hosts.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2020 10:43 |
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# ¿ May 20, 2024 22:13 |
Which is again, some serious stuff for children's books.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2020 20:04 |