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After some discussion in the horror thread, and given my own past running this sort of thing, Francescanado suggested I spin it out into its own thread. I give you...  We'll spend the next few months with this, finally determining via March Madness style brackets, what truly is the greatest horror franchise of all time!  Four absolute no-doubt blue-chipper franchises get a #1 seed in their own bracket. Will they survive? Will anyone? Who knows! That's why we have this tournament! The only limitations are that it has to be generally agreed to be a horror or horror-adjacent franchise, and have at least three in-continuity movies. Sorry, The Thing, having 2 in-continuity and 1 previous version doesn't count. Time to vote in the finals!  USE WHATEVER METHODOLOGY YOU LIKE! Highest overall quality! Best effects! Most entries! Worst Acting! It's totally up to you! We're down to just 32!! Feel free to campaign for your faves, and voting will last a week per bracket. Let the games begin.
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da Update z0ne Reminder I created a Letterboxd list if you are into such things! Full Original Bracket Here 3/22: ended seeding poll, began Bubble Franchise vote 3/24: Psycho crushed Jurassic Park, began 1st round of Crystal Lake Division 3/26: closed first round of Crystal Lake Division, opened voting on Pittsburgh division 3/30: closed first round of Pittsburgh Division, opening voting on Haddonfield division 4/3: closed first round of Haddonfield Division, opening voting on Springwood division 4/7: closed first round of Springwood Division, opening voting on Crystal Lake Rd 2 4/11: closed second round of Crystal Lake, opened 2nd round of Pittsburgh division 4/18: closed second round of Pittsburgh, opened 2nd round of Haddonfield division 4/23: closed second round of Haddonfield, opened 2nd round of Springwood division 4/28: closed second round of Springwood division, opened Western Conference Sweet Six-Scream 5/5: closed Western Sweet Six-Scream, opened Eastern Sweet Six-Scream 5/12: closed Eastern Sweet Six-Scream, opened Western Evil Eight 5/19: closed Western Evil Eight, opened Eastern Evil Eight Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 21:18 on May 19, 2020 |
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married but discreet posted:Man, how can Alien not win this? Reminder this first, ranked-choice vote is just to establish seeds for the eventual brackets. There will be plenty of heads up voting later EDIT: Hey folks I already, in true goon project fashion, hosed up with creating the poll and using the default 3 winners instead of 59 winners to create actual rankings. If you already submitted your vote (all 9 of you) please use the link in this (or the OP) again and re-submit. I am an rear end in a top hat. I am sorry. Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Mar 21, 2020 |
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Strong words from an off-brand Ajani
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OK I'm gonna leave the poll open another few days to get a better idea of seeds, and I don't want to talk about what I'm seeing for fear of poisoning the well, but whoever put Wishmaster as your top pick show yourself coward.
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Mar 22, 2020 19:53
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STAC Goat posted:Ok, finally got the voting thing to work (apparently it doesn't work in my new experimental browser, which is a black mark against the browser). I tried to basically go like the franchises with the largest number of good movies went highest not really counting how many bad movies you had against you coughHellraisercough. Then the ones that I don't really know the franchises but they had a great first film. Then the ones I don't really like but I'm familiar with. And finally the ones I don't think I've ever seen a single film of. Human Centipede 2 is so bizarre and interesting I can't really get mad at it for being bad. It's almost a direct response to the critical and audience reaction to the first one.
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Mar 22, 2020 22:17
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OK, I have enough votes for the first 63. Now the first heads-up vote, for the BUBBLE TEAM! This franchise will go up against Friday the 13th (the #1 overall Seed) in the main tournament, so don't get too attached. VOTING NOW! CLICK HERE! (I'm gonna use Google Forms unless you guys have a better option for future rounds) Face-Off:  vs  v-- not anymore 
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married but discreet posted:There's two Exorcists in those brackets my man. This is a bizarre take since JW2 is straoght up gothic horror down to a monster on a castle spire siholetted in the moon
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married but discreet posted:I have never seen any of the new ones Jurassic World 1 is an absolutely nightmare of bad decisions piled atop one another, but JW2 takes all those and tries to bang the plastic toys together into something worth watching. It's a great mess and never really works but legitimately is the darkest and most mean-spirited of all the Jurassics (even more than JP2)
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TrixRabbi posted:Sorry if this is carrying over discussion from the horror thread, but does Jurassic Park even count as a horror franchise?
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TrixRabbi posted:NotLD is like an all time 10 Greatest Films ever made and Dawn and Day are just unimpeachable sequels.
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OK so, in my mind, here's how I envisioned this: Post the matchups for the week, let people lobby for their picks in this thread, then at the end of the week open up voting. That way people have time to not just deliberate, but post clips of the best kills, write long-form support articles, whatever. If you think it would be easier to just be able to vote immediately, let me know, otherwise I'm gonna do it so we are always 1 week behind voting. I dunno. Feels weird to open voting but then have a week's discussion, like... someone could click through because who gives a gently caress about Children of the Corn, then someone else posts a clip from Children of the Corn 6 that's just like, epochal and no one ever saw it before. Thoughts?
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Mar 23, 2020 22:21
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Sure, why not. Count Freddy's Nightmares and the proto-Warehouse 13 Friday the 13th: The Series too. Blade tv show too. All of it
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 VOTE NOW! First Crystal Lake Knockout Round!wait... what's this?  Subspecies was taken down and consumed by Hannibal Lecter! This lamb's been silenced, and the Lecterverse has been added to the bracket! This round:  Friday the 13th vs Psycho! A Cinderella story for Norman Bates as two momma's boys go toe-to-toe!  Evil Bong vs SAW! A series that devolved into self-parody vs a series that started there!  Wishmaster vs The Hills Have Eyes! Two franchises that live or die based on their leading heavy signing on to star. Divoff vs Berryman, who ya got?  Underworld vs I Know What You Did Last Summer! Kate Beckinsale in a leather corset vs Jennifer Love Hewitt in a tank top!  The Universal Monsters Catalog of the 30s vs Rob Zombie's loosely-connected ouvré! Whose shared universe will reign supreme?  Cube vs Hostel! How far can a powerful hook with no legs carry each of these franchises?  Child's Play vs Feast. Chucky vs.... uh... the Feasties?  Puppet Master vs Leprechaun! OK so, after the top seeds were determined, the rest (about half) were assigned randomly. You have no reason to believe me, but this diminutive showdown happened 100% organically.  You don't have to vote right away! Quote this post and strip out the franchise image you want to lobby for and pitch others on why they should support you! Post Now! Voting Ends next Monday! E: https://letterboxd.com/shrecknet/list/horror-march-madness/ I'll update the rankings here as well. Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 12:31 on Mar 24, 2020 |
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Jedit posted:You may want to set it up so it's possible to not vote on a pairing. Otherwise about 99% of your participants will be forced to either vote for a franchise they've never seen a movie in or vote at random. Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 12:32 on Mar 24, 2020 |
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Basebf555 posted:My main campaign for this round is I Know What You Did Last Summer. Now, let's not get carried away, I Know What You Did Last Summer is not great. But I saw it when I was still young enough to get scared and you know what? A creepy dude hunting high school kids with a hook scared me.  vs    looking at the early responses and if you fuckers put in BloodRayne over either Leprechaun or Puppet Master I will be v. cross
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married but discreet posted:I have never even heard of Feast, let alone a horror series of that name. I doubt it has a chance against Child's Play, but I am interested to watch. Anyone want to make a case for it? Basebf555 posted:Also in the sequel JLH wears a similar outfit but it's raining for most of the movie. Just sayin Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Mar 24, 2020 |
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Franchescanado posted:I haven't seen it since it came out, but I remember it being one of the raunchiest PG-13 movies of that decade.
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Shrecknet posted:OK so, in my mind, here's how I envisioned this: Post the matchups for the week, let people lobby for their picks in this thread, then at the end of the week open up voting. That way people have time to not just deliberate, but post clips of the best kills, write long-form support articles, whatever. If you think it would be easier to just be able to vote immediately, let me know, otherwise I'm gonna do it so we are always 1 week behind voting. I dunno. Feels weird to open voting but then have a week's discussion, like... someone could click through because who gives a gently caress about Children of the Corn, then someone else posts a clip from Children of the Corn 6 that's just like, epochal and no one ever saw it before. E: I'm campaigning for Leprechaun over Puppet Master just because while there are not one but TWO horrifically racist Leprechaun movies, at least none of them are explicitly Pro-Nazi. Franchescanado posted:IKWYDLS was a major talking point until it was officially over-shadowed by Scream and the original parody in Scary Movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUGqRslUTxI Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Mar 24, 2020 |
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Drunkboxer posted:I’m on team Leprechaun because Warwick Davis tries his very bestest
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Reminder that in the real March Madness, there's the Sweet Sixteen, Elite Eight and Final Four. Gonna need some Cryptkeeper-level puns for those. Currently toying with Sweet Six-Scream, Elite Hate and Final Girl Four. EE-HEE-HEE-HEEEEEE  e: holy poo poo while looking for the Cryptkeeper image I found this, and now I have to hear this: 
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Flying Zamboni posted:Leo still probably doesn't like Critters 3 because it's over 25 years old. 
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Heads-Up: We had 41 votes for Psycho vs Jurassic Park. We've had 44 votes for Crystal Lake Division, 1st round. Share the link! I'm thinking about closing voting once we hit 110% of the previous round each round, instead of waiting a full week, since I think discovery is the important part and interest will wane (we'll go to a full week of campaigning and giving people time to rewatch once we hit the Sweet Six-Scream, because IME that's when the choices get hard, if these early results are anything to go by). Tell your friends, get your acquaintances/non-goons the link! Share on Twitter! Here's a handy image to go with it:
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COOL CORN posted:drat I love this, I can't wait for Rob Zombie's Universe to win it all
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Basebf555 posted:It's amazing to think about how much money she probably has. She's been making huge network t.v.(and probably syndication) money for more than a decade, I wouldn't be surprised if she's got 50-100 mil in the bank depending on how good those deals were.
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$150k an episode for Ghost Whisperer for 5 years per Variety. I'd be shocked if she didn't have a similar deal now, plus she was a $4-5m range star at her peak. Can't Hardly Wait, Heartbreakers, 2 IKWYDLS, on and on. God only knows how much she made off Hanes and ProActiv endorsements. Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Mar 26, 2020 |
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results!! With 50 entries, there were two very, very competitive matchups and two absolute blowouts. Here they are:  Friday barely edges out Psycho. I feel like this was the true test of Friday the 13th, but it exposes some real flaws in the strategy of "be a trashy series everyone gives undue respect to for longevity" vs an actually good franchise full of stone-cold great movies. We'll see if the sleaze can win out its own division next round vs.... SAW. With almost as many entrants, of the same middling quality, SAW takes down joke entrant Evil Bong. I can't say I'm sad to see it go, but it was fun to be reminded horror doesn't have to be serious.  Andrew Divoff > Michael Berryman. Sad but true. Wishmaster is almost a perfect logarithmic line of decreasing sequel quality, while Hills Have Eyes really only has its first movie and its first remake as good films. Meanwhile, catsuit beats midriff, just barely, as the fence-sitters who voted for Uwe Boll's Bloodrayne decided the outcome of this one. Seriously, Bloodrayne is Jill Stein and the absence of the Fisherman Slicker Killer in future rounds is your fault.  Feast lost. No poo poo. Much closer on the "tiny villains" matchup, but Leprechaun's overall badness wasn't enough to sink it vs several OK movies and one overt White Nationalist pro-Nazi film. I assume poor Warwick Davis is walking into the buzzsaw that is Chucky next round.  A bit of a wistful loss, as the Zombie-verse falls to Universal's monsters. Just the way the matchups go sometimes. And Cube edges Hostel. And by edge I mean absolutely blows out of the water. Both were solid first films with two dogshit sequels, but Cube's first movie was better than Hostel's it seems. Pittsburgh voting will be up in about an hour!
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Timeless Appeal posted:I think Universal Monsters is my horse in this race and I feel like it isn't really getting the respect it deserves. Monster Squad was Tristar and not really related to the Universal movies right?
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STAC Goat posted:Although I guess they have to get past Chucky first. I can't believe Chucky is a 7th seed and Wishmaster is a 3. How did that happen?
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The seeds are right, I put in the wrong numbers on the first post's image. It is: Seed 1 vs Seed 16 Seed 9 vs Seed 8 Seed 5 vs Seed 12 Seed 13 vs Seed 4 ------ Seed 15 vs Seed 2 Seed 11 vs Seed 6 Seed 3 vs Seed 14 Seed 7 vs Seed 10 I'd fix it but Google Docs is currently making GBS threads itself, which is why I can't get the form for the Pittsburgh winnowing posted.
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Pittsburgh Round! VOTE HERE NOW! Voting closes in 1 week or when we have 55 votes! I mean, Silent Night, Deadly Night might be good. Who knows? I do know this: Night of the Living Dead go BRRRRR  Ghoulies is a bad movie with poor effects made in bad taste, including a sequel where the Ghoulies go to college. Human Centipede made a sequel where porn star Bree Olsen gets accidentally linked into a 300-person centipede.  Linnea Quigly from Return of the Living Dead is seriously the entire reason I have a thing for goth chicks. On the other hand, Eliza Dushku from Wrong Turn is why I have a thing for Eliza Dushku.  Ginger Snaps is a solid effort from America's Hat, Canada. But Final Destination 2 is so loving good it hurts.  This one breaks my heart. I've written extensively about how Piranha is a slept-on franchise, but this is a battle of movies who had James Cameron direct one of their sequels and I feel like I know which way it's gonna go.  Re-Animator is Stuart Gordon (RIP) and Jeffrey Combs at their most Gordon and Combs-iest. But Maniac Cop has a rap song explaining the plot of the movie.  I think this will end up being closer than we think. The Purge has had 4 entrants that only get better and better, and is an explicit critique of capitalism. Exorcist is merely a vector for a pretty good score.  The Prophecy is a solid franchise that doesn't get too dire. Amityville, in my limited research, seems to have an absolutely absurd number of entries. At least 30. Surely at least 4 of them are better than Prophecy's best four films?
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married but discreet posted:Ah gently caress, I was specifically holding off my vote until the weekend cause I thought we'd have time until monday. Please give us more of a heads up next time. Franchescanado posted:With this in mind, I can change the thread title to reflect the voting deadline, if I have notice.  As a side note, starting with this round, your votes are not set in stone, so definitely vote immediately with your gut-checks, then come in here and discuss which ones you can be swayed on and see if anyone wants to change your mind.
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COOL CORN posted:EXCUSE YOU
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STAC Goat posted:Piranha was another "maybe I'll check it out" but it was probably never gonna beat Alien, which is probably my top 5.
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TrixRabbi posted:Ok, reasons to vote for Final Destination, lest we forget how great that series is: quote:Numerous film characters are named after famous horror film directors, actors and producers: Billy Hitchcock is named after Alfred Hitchcock, the Browning family and Tod Waggner are named after Tod Browning, Larry Murnau is a reference to Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau, Blake Dreyer to Carl Theodor Dreyer, Valerie Lewton to Val Lewton, Agent Schreck to Max Schreck, Terry Chaney to Lon Chaney, Christa Marsh reminds of Fredric March, Agent Weine of Robert Wiene, and George Waggner is directly named after Universal Horror film producer George Waggner.
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I will tell you, based on early results, it is entirely possible for Uwe Boll's Bloodrayne to win one of these matchups. Just not this one:
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I'll be honest. I think Wrong Turn is a perfectly cromulent franchise and has spectacular practical gore effects and a satisfying nastiness that harkens back to Day of the Dead. But:
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Watching Bloodrayne actually get more votes than one of the entrants, and it appears that there was in fact a third BloodRayne so maybe we made a mistake in nominating one of these franchises.gey muckle mowser posted:I'm not sure if I've seen Ghoulies III/IV, but II is probably my favorite "rubber puppet monster" movie 
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:It's a shame that Gremlins didn't have a third installment, because those first two movies could carry it a long way. I'd even put it over the F13 series Disagree, only because Gremlins 2 is the perfect coda. It carpet-bombed the idea of sequels and Joe Dante deserves a medal for completely destroying his own franchise like that to keep the ghouls in the C-suites from sullying the series with endless retreads.
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