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Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

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You got Hammer Dracula in there, but no Hammer Frankenstein?

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I was going to say there should be a horror tv contest too, but Tales from the Crypt would probably demolish everything else.

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Basebf555 posted:

This doesn't really contradict anything you said, but there's a pretty subtle time jump in Part 2 after he kills Alice in the opening scene. You can tell that it's at least a few weeks(maybe more?), because later in the movie you see her body in his lair and it's clearly been there for longer than a day or two.


Not only that, but the campers are now talking about the "legend" of Jason, which was born out of him killing Alice in the first place. According to the movie, she was killed a couple of months after she killed Jason's mother. Later on in the movie, the police chief tells the new campers that "things have been quiet around here for 5 years, and that's the way we want to keep it". So it's been five years, which is plenty of time for Jason to turn into local legend.

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Since parts 2, 3, and 4 take place over a span of four days, why the hell do groups of teens keep visiting the mass murder lake within 24-48 hours of the first set of murders, and why isn't Crystal Lake swarming with cops/feds since the killer isn't presumed dead at the end of part 2? This timeline also means that if Rob from part 4 is seeking revenge for his sister from part 2's murder, then he really has his poo poo together since, in the span of two days, he learns of his sister's death, somehow knows that it's Jason who killed her (even though none of the news reports mention him), knows all about the local legend of Jason, knows that Jason's body disappeared from the morgue the day before, and is now at Crystal Lake with the intent to kill him.

Lmao the timeline is so hosed, it really is a good competitor for Saw.

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ROTLD 3, unrated cut, is good.

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Don't sleep on Ghoulies 2.

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STAC Goat posted:

I'd give it a watch tonight but none of the Ghoulies movies seem to be streaming anywhere. I would have thought they'd be locks for Tubitv.

Sometimes it is, just not right now. I think Tubi has a rotating deal with Full Moon titles. It's probably on the Full Moon streaming service at the moment.

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Scream 4 is the only good Scream sequel.

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New Nightmare would be a great movie if the setpieces were better. I like everything about it except most of the "scares". Maybe I'd need to be a parent to get it.

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As long as Craven gets his props, I'm happy.

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Considering he had been playing Dracula, and other roles, on broadway for years before the film, I highly doubt Lugosi didn't know English by the time of filming.

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Wishmaster was directed by a seasoned SFX guy and written by the people who wrote Hellbound: Hellraiser II.
Wishmaster 2 was written and directed by the director of Freddy's Revenge and The Hidden.
Wishmaster 3 and 4 are practically the only movies on the director's resume. 3 was written by a writer of Hallmark originals. 4 was written by a writer of Lifetime originals.

Divoff probably saw the writing on the wall.

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NOES 4 is fun tho.

Shame that TCM will probably lose, considering that the original TCM is the best film in this set of matchups.

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Halloween 3 is the best Halloween. But I was never huge on the original, primarily owed to PJ Soles' and Nancy Kyes' stilted rear end delivery.

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Hellworld is better than Deader, and Hellworld blows.

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Nightmare 5 is the biggest disappointment. It has this weird tone where all of the fun of the previous two movies is just gone, but it's still in goofy Freddy mindset. How can you have a scene where your villain rides a skateboard inside the panels of a comic book before turning into Super Freddy and it not be any fun at all? I get the feeling Hopkins probably wanted to do his serious gothic Freddy movie but had to keep the audience-pleasing MTV Freddy thing going, so it's a mess of cool imagery and lame setpieces that make you feel like crap. Really don't like the score either.

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Wizard Master owns.

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I have no problems with the tree rape and still think Evil Dead should lose.

Also, Jason beat Universal horror, what the gently caress.

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If it were a F13 entry, H4 would be considered maybe the best film in the series.

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you killed freddy you goddamn monsters

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F13th should've been eliminated two tiers ago, y'all high as hell

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Punched above it's weight? It was a low rent series of boring slashers that were churned out yearly for quick money, from a studio that couldn't have given a poo poo less about them, and that's exactly what they come across as when you watch them. They aren't interesting or intelligently written, and there are barely any characters throughout the entire series that are even identifiable, much less likable.

In your mind, try to picture your favorite scenes from the series, and all you see are a few brief kills, a few still images of Jason, and maybe that 30 secs of Crispin Glover dancing. You can watch a 5 minute kill montage and get everything you need from the whole run. Everything else is a blur of characterless campers loving around and wandering through cabins/the woods and talking about forgettable bullshit. Take away the occasionally-great fx work and the hockey mask, and there's nothing there. Even part 6 is only good when compared to the garbage that surrounds it.

And yeah, these are criticisms you can lob at a lot of other slashers, since the whole genre was a low risk attempt to cash in on the success of Halloween anyway, with a minimum of expectations or effort required. The difference is that most other slashers didn't make anywhere near the profits F13th did and go on and on for ten plus years. Other slashers don't have a ton of defenders willing to go to bat for the empty cultural meme of a hockey masked killer. And the reality is that the only reason Friday the 13th succeeded, when more imaginative slashers like Tourist Trap or similarly styled slashers like The Prowler failed, wasn't good filmmaking. It was good marketing.

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The shot of the camera flying through the cabin and flinging Ash through the trees in ED2 is pretty clearly the continuation of the final shot of ED1. Ash never left :dealwithit:

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Diary of the Dead is so bad that it's like a Romero zombie film as interpreted by The Asylum.

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