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I'm pretty excited about the FMW and XPW episodes because FMW was my introduction to Japanese wrestling and death match poo poo when I was a teenager and XPW was this bizarre ECW 2.0 thing I only ever saw in World of Wrestling magazine. I wonder if New Jack will be in the XPW episode  hell they should do an episode or two on New Jack.
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just throwing this out there, free username idea Juche Robinson
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:just throwing this out there, free username idea It's very good. joylessdivision posted:I wonder if New Jack will be in the XPW episode Uhh, am I missing a joke.
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Hopefully, they can confirm that New Jack got paid for an XPW show with porno and dildos.
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joylessdivision posted:hell they should do an episode or two on New Jack. Last season had a New Jack episode, it's among the best in the series
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karmicknight posted:It's very good. Nope, I'm just an idiot who somehow forgot they covered New Jack last season. It's been a while since I watched season 2 and the Owen episodes definitely stand out the most in my memory for that season.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:10
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I'm fascinated by the fact that there will be four different Ultimate Warrior documentaries out there.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:44
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Gavok posted:I'm fascinated by the fact that there will be four different Ultimate Warrior documentaries out there. What's even weirder is half of them are good and accurate and half of them are horrible puff pieces, assuming where the next two are gonna land.
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It’s painfully obvious that they’re trying to control the narrative of subjects Vice hasn’t touched yet with the A&E series. I doubt they’ll touch stuff like Owen Hart unless Vince and McDevitt are feeling particularly cruel.
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I'm gonna watch a documentary on Rob Black trying to cut off Messiah's dick or whatever that XPW crazy was. That's tripping me out.
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We probably need a new thread at this point, don't we?Gavok posted:I'm fascinated by the fact that there will be four different Ultimate Warrior documentaries out there.
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Apr 28, 2021 21:46
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davidbix posted:We probably need a new thread at this point, don't we? If no one wants to make a season 3 OP, I can throw one together from wiki listings over the weekend.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:His descent makes me sad. I used to really like him. His guerilla warfare match with Sami Callihan for a title shot is my favorite PWG match and the subsequent title match he had with Adam Cole was also really good. considering how slaphappy Joey is with lawsuits, I imagine they're keepin' some distance on that for now.
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the escape goat posted:considering how slaphappy Joey is with lawsuits, I imagine they're keepin' some distance on that for now. Yeah, that makes sense.
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the escape goat posted:considering how slaphappy Joey is with lawsuits, I imagine they're keepin' some distance on that for now. Joey only threatened people he thought wouldn't be able to take it all the way to court. A TV production company absolutely wouldn't. That said, he's really not worth doing an episode on, he's a footnote
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https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1388227248038178820
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part one of the brian pillman episode is up for free https://www.vicetv.com/en_us/video/brian-pillman-part-one/6078b5bba14b6e62143eb5f5
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https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1388275823304749057 But seriously we need a new thread.
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I guess I'll get this done tonight then: karmicknight posted:If no one wants to make a season 3 OP, I can throw one together from wiki listings over the weekend.
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Even just being part one, the Pillman episode was just okay. It glosses over so much. Crazy Like a Fox is a better account by far. Pillman is one of my favorite entertainers ever but he was a vile, evil dude and this episode doesn’t touch on it at all.
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Eat My Fuc posted:Even just being part one, the Pillman episode was just okay. It glosses over so much. Crazy Like a Fox is a better account by far. Pillman is one of my favorite entertainers ever but he was a vile, evil dude and this episode doesn’t touch on it at all. I've never known much about his personal life but they really do gloss over even the wrestling bits. They jump from the Blonds to Bookerman to ECW toward WWF with almost no details to bridge the gaps. I get that you only have an hour, but maybe break it into even more parts if there's that much history to detail.
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Ganso Bomb posted:I've never known much about his personal life but they really do gloss over even the wrestling bits. They jump from the Blonds to Bookerman to ECW toward WWF with almost no details to bridge the gaps. I get that you only have an hour, but maybe break it into even more parts if there's that much history to detail. Agreed. Felt like they did a speed run through his whole career. Not a great start. Hope your second part is better.
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Part 1 is on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS25e3DZAU0 Kim Wood is the star of this for sure.
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Sorry if this has been asked elsewhere in the thread already, but what's the best way to stream vicetv? I'm in the US so the only options I've seen are either get a cable sub or I think maybe the hulu live TV package. Do they have a regular stream subscription in some other country that I can VPN to?
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Ganso Bomb posted:I've never known much about his personal life but they really do gloss over even the wrestling bits. They jump from the Blonds to Bookerman to ECW toward WWF with almost no details to bridge the gaps. I get that you only have an hour, but maybe break it into even more parts if there's that much history to detail. The book is a fantastic read, but was super difficult for me as a huge fan of his, it basically lays bare what he was which was a pretty brutal guy. He physically and sexually assaulted women regularly and his "ribs" often were more out and out cruel than say, an Owen Hart style joke. I get they don't want to get into all that when his family is so involved but it was odd that they both ignored all that and also ignored a ton of stuff about his pre WWF career that is frankly the most interesting thing about his career.
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Eat My Fuc posted:The book is a fantastic read, but was super difficult for me as a huge fan of his, it basically lays bare what he was which was a pretty brutal guy. He physically and sexually assaulted women regularly and his "ribs" often were more out and out cruel than say, an Owen Hart style joke. I get they don't want to get into all that when his family is so involved but it was odd that they both ignored all that and also ignored a ton of stuff about his pre WWF career that is frankly the most interesting thing about his career. Thanks for sharing. I had no idea either and might check out the book.
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the producers have talked about how hard it is to even get 2-part episodes approved, you're never going to get a comprehensive career retrospective out of a cable TV documentary
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Eat My Fuc posted:The book is a fantastic read, but was super difficult for me as a huge fan of his, it basically lays bare what he was which was a pretty brutal guy. He physically and sexually assaulted women regularly and his "ribs" often were more out and out cruel than say, an Owen Hart style joke. I get they don't want to get into all that when his family is so involved but it was odd that they both ignored all that and also ignored a ton of stuff about his pre WWF career that is frankly the most interesting thing about his career. Pillman is a weird one for me because I loved his wrestling career but never really knew much about his personal life. Being a teenager when he died and the internet being what it was at the time, I just didn't know all of the details. And, in the years since I never had a big urge to dig in more. Even from the small bits that came up in the first episode, there were a lot of things I never knew. Had no idea about how he and Melanie manipulated things so horribly for his daughter and how things turned out for her mother. Just horrible. I'm gonna have to check that book out for sure.
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The book is a good read for sure, one of wrestling's best ever.
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Just finished the episode and will echo that Kim Wood is amazing in this.
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Dango Bango posted:Just finished the episode and will echo that Kim Wood is amazing in this. I was audibly wheezing when he described how he feels about Vince
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I do like it when they let someone put forth their definitely-wrong opinion about a situation and then immediately debunk it with the next talking head. It's in this episode with Bischoff trying to explain that he was in on Pillman's release, and then immediately someone, probably Kim Wood, shits all over that. It happened I think in the Montreal episode with Scott Hall's "it's all a work" theory (I haven't seen the episode since it aired so I could be misremembering that) and in the Von Erichs episode when Kevin claims that Mike was a great athlete and then they immediately cut to Cornette who says Mike wasn't a wrestler and Dave who says he wasn't a good athlete.
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The people making this show are leech marks anyway, that's why they let obvious liars like Abdullah and Dutch be talking heads, they're not gonna spend any time talking about how lovely Pillman was because so many of the people they want to work with loved him
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AK-47 posted:I was audibly wheezing when he described how he feels about Vince Yeah, that quote was an all timer.
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May 2, 2021 01:15
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oughta call it light side of the ring. Fellas
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Mob posted:The people making this show are leech marks anyway, that's why they let obvious liars like Abdullah and Dutch be talking heads, they're not gonna spend any time talking about how lovely Pillman was because so many of the people they want to work with loved him Also, it's wrestling, if they had to completely avoid "obvious liars," then there wouldn't be a show.
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These are TV shows, they don't want the WHOLE thing to be misery porn people.
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davidbix posted:Dutch has long been one of the most open people about what happened to Brody. Abby was explicitly framed as someone to be wary of. I'm not sure what your point is here, exactly. "well when Jose come out of the bathroom his shirt was ripped so I guess he had to defend hisself"
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Mob posted:The people making this show are leech marks anyway, that's why they let obvious liars like Abdullah and Dutch be talking heads, they're not gonna spend any time talking about how lovely Pillman was because so many of the people they want to work with loved him I think you're right in that they're not gonna go into too deep detail how lovely some people are, but in that episode, I think it was pretty clear that they painted Abdullah as someone you shouldn't trust on his side of the story, and Dutch as just someone who was there giving the blandest eyewitness report. Though when you weaved Dutch's side with Tony's, you got a much clearer picture of the entire thing.
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