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Gonna start Persona 5 Royal soon, having played and loved the original version when it first came out. Question to set my expectations: I tend to be pretty bothered with the way Atlus uses these Persona re-releases to add a new potential love interest character who they push very hard as the "correct" love interest. How hard does Royal push Kasumi as the "canon" romance, on a scale from "a few ship teases but pretty ignorable" to "romancing anyone else feels like it conflicts with the main story now"? Aside from that fairly cynical question I'm pretty stoked to start playing because just about every other change/addition I've heard about sounds fantastic to me. Harrow fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Jan 4, 2021 |
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Jan 4, 2021 21:27
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There are some pretty blatant scenes with Kasumi shoehorned into the main storyline, but I wouldn't say they actively push her as the canon love interest. Without giving away too much, she leans into the 'earnest younger schoolmate' role well and while you can develop that into something more, it's not really something that's overly favoured over any of the other female options.
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Jan 4, 2021 21:30
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I'd say it's more or less the same level as Rise from P4. Kasumi comes across as eager to hang out with you but it doesn't feel wrong to romance somebody else, story-wise.
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Jan 4, 2021 21:41
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Okay, that's good to know. If the answer was "very canon" my next question was going to be how well-written the relationship is, because the way I tend to pick romance options in games like this is whatever feels right in the story/for the characters and as a result I find it hard to pass up a "canon" option. I am, indeed, quite Basic but that's how my brain works with stories apparently.
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Jan 4, 2021 21:50
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Canon is Makoto because that's who we picked, but Kasumi can be both "she's falling for you, dude" and "you're like an older brother to her" depending on how you read the interactions with her. We didn't see the postgame so that might change, but it's my impression after 130 hours interspersed with Kasumi, so yeah...
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Jan 4, 2021 22:54
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Just please for the love of god prioritize the new confidants
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Jan 4, 2021 23:10
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So is there enough time in the calendar to max out most confidant relationships?
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Jan 5, 2021 01:52
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Carlosologist posted:So is there enough time in the calendar to max out most confidant relationships? There is enough time to max every confidant.
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Jan 5, 2021 01:54
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There is always enough time to max all social links in a Persona game, though depending on the game it can be kinds tight. I somehow managed to do it on my first playthrough of vanilla Persona 5 even.
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Jan 5, 2021 05:05
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Harrow posted:There is always enough time to max all social links in a Persona game, though depending on the game it can be kinds tight. I somehow managed to do it on my first playthrough of vanilla Persona 5 even. Did it on both vanilla and Royal but I screwed up on temperance and missed out on plenty of times where I could have used their maxed out link bonus to give me more time. I made it, but I cut it super close. I also forgot on a few occasions to bring the matching persona along and that didn’t help matters either... 
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Jan 5, 2021 05:25
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Spiffster posted:Did it on both vanilla and Royal but I screwed up on temperance and missed out on plenty of times where I could have used their maxed out link bonus to give me more time. I made it, but I cut it super close. In vanilla I cut it really close, partially because I didn't realize I was actually in a position to be able to max everything until I had only a few weeks of time left. I ended up making a spreadsheet to track all my free time for the last month or so of the game and finished maxing everything on like the second-to-last free day  I'm hoping I can maybe do it a little more comfortably in Royal.
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Jan 5, 2021 05:30
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Harrow posted:In vanilla I cut it really close, partially because I didn't realize I was actually in a position to be able to max everything until I had only a few weeks of time left. I ended up making a spreadsheet to track all my free time for the last month or so of the game and finished maxing everything on like the second-to-last free day If you've played the game before and know to unlock Chihaya early then it's easy.
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Jan 5, 2021 05:33
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It's impossible if you're me and don't start tower until the last month in royal and vanilla, cause you kept checking the wrong arcade and wondering where he was.
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Jan 5, 2021 05:39
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https://twitter.com/MakotoFromTokyo/status/1346370410426871810
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Jan 5, 2021 20:03
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lmao at Ryuji and Mishima being too horny to live
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Jan 6, 2021 04:07
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I fell off vanilla P5 when it came out but Royal was half off and I'm locked down again so... Knowing Morgana let's you study and stuff at night makes me feel better already
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Jan 10, 2021 18:28
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Finishing palaces early and then having a ton of time to do other stuff is so good. Like, 25 days to do whatever until Futaba wakes up? Crazy amount of time to build confidant ranks
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Jan 10, 2021 18:33
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For whatever reason on Twitter 'Makoto' was trending. I like to think it was because in Strikers Makoto can ride Johanna as well as punch things to death and everybody was collectively very happy about that.
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Jan 10, 2021 19:07
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Shoehead posted:I fell off vanilla P5 when it came out but Royal was half off and I'm locked down again so... I bought P5R during 1st lockdown and it carried me through a good week and a half. Atlus releasing that game when they did was a legit public service
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Jan 11, 2021 00:04
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Carlosologist posted:Finishing palaces early and then having a ton of time to do other stuff is so good. That Palace is kinda infamous for the ridiculous amount of time you get afterwards and the game trying to justify it. Oh yeah, um, she kinda just konks out for over three weeks a a time. No big, it's happened before.
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Jan 11, 2021 00:11
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Sojiro being so casual about it is hilarious though. I’m playing the dub and Jamieson Price is just so drat good at what he does I feel that there’s roughly two more palaces left?
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Jan 11, 2021 18:42
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Carlosologist posted:I feel that there’s roughly two more palaces left? lmao
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Jan 11, 2021 18:52
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Yaaay got to the treasure on day one. I dunno what the seeds are for buy I nabbed em too. I'm not sure what to focus on in free time now, probably study, but I always get analysis paralysis with Persona 
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Jan 11, 2021 22:12
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Re: Will Seeds: If you got all three then they should have turned into a new accessory
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Jan 11, 2021 22:18
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Arist posted:Re: Will Seeds: they also get buffed further when you see a special someone in Mementos and some of them are worth the effort to collect and upgrade.
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Jan 11, 2021 22:56
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Arist posted:lmao lmao jesus christ everything after Sae's palace took me for a loop
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Jan 21, 2021 08:13
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There was a Touhou version of that a while back, I think someone just realized they could prank the newspaper comics. Clarste fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Jan 21, 2021 |
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Jan 21, 2021 08:27
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Jan 21, 2021 08:32
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I got it from this page of the comics thread which is all Heathcliff and also has the Touhou one
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Jan 21, 2021 08:54
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Hmmm "successfully" gotten the bad end in Persona 4G, a paltry 80 hours in I might suck at these games But I'm sure that we'll just have to lead the convo during the last set of cutscenes differently. I'm actually relieved, because I wanted to see the bad end but feared that it would be a "choose wrong answer now, find out 5 hours later" scenario.
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Simply Simon posted:But I'm sure that we'll just have to lead the convo during the last set of cutscenes differently. I'm actually relieved, because I wanted to see the bad end but feared that it would be a "choose wrong answer now, find out 5 hours later" scenario. Yeah, the bad ends in Persona games tend to be fairly immediate, rather than something you find out about hours later. Persona 4's interesting in that it actually does expect you to be curious, ask questions, and make a few deductions. In fact (no specific spoilers but I'll put it under tags anyway) it's really easy to miss the true ending later if you don't keep asking questions.
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I’m 80 hours in and at Sae’s casino palace and am having a blast. I don’t play many JRPGs, and honestly bought this on a whim after seeing it for $20 on Black Friday. Mostly, I thought the art work looked interesting. But goddamn I haven’t had a game hook me like this in years. Every free moment I have , I am playing this game. Everything about it is oozing with style. The gameplay, the characters, the combat, the music, the story. I can’t get enough. I don’t want this game to end, and I will be very sad when it does. This is the type of game where, If I play something else I will be saying to myself “yes it was fun, but it wasn’t Persona 5” Solaris 2.0 fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Feb 15, 2021 |
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Feb 15, 2021 03:29
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Solaris 2.0 posted:I’m 80 hours in and at Sae’s casino palace and am having a blast. I don’t play many JRPGs, and honestly bought this on a whim after seeing it for $20 on Black Friday. Mostly, I thought the art work looked interesting. Maybe give Persona 4 Golden a whirl? It’s on Vita/PS TV/Steam and is a very good game also.
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Feb 15, 2021 03:36
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Persona 4 Golden is extremely good but I will say it's a bit of an adjustment if you play it immediately after Persona 5, almost entirely because of the combat. The combat is a lot smoother and more flexible in Persona 5, and losing things like Baton Pass can be a rough adjustment if you go straight from one to the other. That said P4G is very very good and very worth playing. Once you get over the hump of losing a couple QOL features and combat refinements you'll have a great time.
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Yeah P4G has a slower start and adjustment period but it plays fine after that. P3(P) though is just a slog. You lose so many QoLs going backwards to that, despite a fairly decent cast and story.
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Feb 15, 2021 08:55
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In any case, it's easy to burn out if you play two long games that similar back to back so give yourself some time to digest this one afterwards.
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Feb 15, 2021 10:04
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I can confirm that going from P5R to P4G is perfectly fine, you're not going to feel its comparative age as much as you might think. The biggest downgrade is probably that P4G is not nearly as stylish as P5R is, but that's obvious because the latter is probably one of the most stylish games ever made. In fact, I think P4G is very stylish, it's got an extremely confident, clean and sharp look and a very consistent aesthetic with its TV theme, it's just obviously not as impressive as P5R is.Harrow posted:Yeah, the bad ends in Persona games tend to be fairly immediate, rather than something you find out about hours later. I do think in both cases it was a bit arbitrary what "the optimal" solution was, because we did ask questions in the first case but didn't realize that the correct thing to do was to calm everyone down, which seems noncommittal, and in the second case it's completely nonsensical that we'd take Adachi's side, like there's zero motivation for that, especially since at that point we didn't even know what his angle was, and he rightfully mocks us for taking his dumbass side, and proceeds to own our life, so...woo? I thought we'd at least get a "haha now we can destroy/rule the world together!!!" thing, but it really was "wow what a terrible loving idea huh" throughout Anyway looking forward to again flubbing the Golden ending and having to look it up lol (Aeon is max so we can just reload).
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Feb 15, 2021 10:05
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Personally I think persona 4 has just as much charm and style as Persona 5, just completely different. They nailed the "summer adventure with your friends in rural Japan" aesthetic in P4. Everything is so chill. Listen to oddly charmingJpop. Catch a fish. Date a clasmate. Go camping with your friends. Make homecooked meals to share at lunch. Persona 5 oozes style but the kind of "bad boy" noir, jazzy lounge, Ritzy Tokyo lifestyle charm.
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Oh yeah P4 has a great atmosphere as well, and I do feel it quite well, having grown up in a small village and "graduated" to semi-big cities (population comp: 700/100,000). The only weird part is always how they call Inaba a rural shithole small-rear end town when the map shows it to be about the size of a 50k pop city which is perfectly acceptable as a small but bustling city in Germany, haha. But the scale is completely off comparing that to Germany, of course. I was mostly talking about visual style, the design of the menus and so on, and P5 is fully unmatched there imo. P4's menus also don't really fit the small town aesthetic (imo?), they fit the TV theme, much like P5's menus fit more the rebelling against the system theme than the Tokyo aesthetic...maybe. Though it's similar to The World Ends With You, which is also super Tokyo fashion infused, so I might be wrong there.
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