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Baron von Eevl posted:Alt Right Said Fred
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grittyreboot posted:I literally get none of that. My TikTok usually gives me some fun comedy sketches, video game stuff, music recommendations, etc. Their algorithm is eerie how quickly it showed me stuff I want to see CelticPredator has revealed themselves, in this thread, to be an insane person with a weird old man grudge despite being in their early 30's. As with all weird old man grudges, facts and reality itself don't matter.
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Apr 28, 2024 09:07
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CelticPredator posted:I don’t think social media is good. Any of it. I don't think social media is inherently evil, it's just people reaching out to talk to people. It's no more inherently cursed than a conversation or a bulletin board. Where the evil is, is social media with the brakes off, like Twitter being essentially unmoderated, allowing harassment and weird bot-posting to run wild, or engines that hunger desperately for deeper and deeper engagement, using algorithms to feed you more of what keeps you hanging around. That's what's going to create weird addictive feedback loops and get someone hurt. Of course as long as social media is run with a pure profit motive, rather than a social motive, it's always going to head towards this since moderation costs money and engaged addicts generate money(in the form of data and ad views).
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Apr 28, 2024 09:31
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The only actual *social* media, i.e. media that exist to foster socialization, are things like messaging apps. Anything with a content feed is just a predatory profit machine.
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Apr 28, 2024 09:34
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Yngwie Mangosteen posted:CelticPredator has revealed themselves, in this thread, to be an insane person with a weird old man grudge despite being in their early 30's. As with all weird old man grudges, facts and reality itself don't matter. Mad?
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Apr 28, 2024 09:43
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Tiktok sucks rear end but I support anything that makes people mad. So it's a real conundrum for me
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Apr 28, 2024 09:49
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Honestly, I think that the instant that social media turned into absolute unreadable garbage was the nanosecond that somebody decided that engagement was the metric that success was to be based upon. Decoupling the concept of quality or social good from success has opened up the floodgates to the kind of poo poo that sees people being radicalised online, or hate speech flourishing, or absolute garbage content clickbait becoming the norm rather than the outlier. A long time ago on the forums, and I'm talking about at least 5 years ago, somebody made a completely wackadoo post about some sort of social currency system that was based on an attention economy. He used some sort of a tortured metaphor about marbles shooting out of people's foreheads at whatever they were directly looking at and the more marbles you had, the more of the economy you controlled, and I really really wish that I had bookmarked this crazy person's post because gently caress me if it doesn't seem like it's the patient zero blueprint for all of the social media ills that have come after it.
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Apr 28, 2024 10:14
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i'm doing my taxes. leave the tiktok to the kids.
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Apr 28, 2024 10:32
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Breetai posted:Honestly, I think that the instant that social media turned into absolute unreadable garbage was the nanosecond that somebody decided that engagement was the metric that success was to be based upon. Decoupling the concept of quality or social good from success has opened up the floodgates to the kind of poo poo that sees people being radicalised online, or hate speech flourishing, or absolute garbage content clickbait becoming the norm rather than the outlier.
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Apr 28, 2024 10:41
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And we all laughed because that made no sense, just getting people's attention doesn't inherently make you any money or value in itself unless you already have some kind of service or product to offer. ...which is still probably true but internet advertising makes millions on poo poo no one buys anyway because marketing exists primarily to advertise its own supposed usefulness.
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Apr 28, 2024 11:09
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You know what, sometimes I actually kinda like finding out that a celebrity is just a normal type of rear end in a top hat, rather than a 'causes mass harm and believes in eugenics or something' type of rear end in a top hat. https://twitter.com/nadiaudio/status/1784380449604956350 Hans loving Zimmer being one of those weird power users on a niche help forum is one of those. Cleretic has a new favorite as of 11:52 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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Apr 28, 2024 11:47
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tokin opposition posted:Embrace meaninglessness 
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Apr 28, 2024 12:49
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Spazzle posted:That was Eripsa Thanks for that, I was able to find the original thread after several years of looking for it. The bits about computerised systems operating independently of direct human control working out where attention should be diverted to, and about attention being exchanged for an increase in the influence of the attention-getter were even more horrific than I remember them being. This is the worst Nostradamus. He came to us with a blueprint for the torment nexus. None of us understood at the time.
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Apr 28, 2024 13:43
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Breetai posted:Thanks for that, I was able to find the original thread after several years of looking for it. The bits about computerised systems operating independently of direct human control working out where attention should be diverted to, and about attention being exchanged for an increase in the influence of the attention-getter were even more horrific than I remember them being. This is the worst Nostradamus. He came to us with a blueprint for the torment nexus. None of us understood at the time. Link?
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Apr 28, 2024 14:54
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Breetai posted:Thanks for that, I was able to find the original thread after several years of looking for it. The bits about computerised systems operating independently of direct human control working out where attention should be diverted to, and about attention being exchanged for an increase in the influence of the attention-getter were even more horrific than I remember them being. This is the worst Nostradamus. He came to us with a blueprint for the torment nexus. None of us understood at the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr1VCz28HJo
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Apr 28, 2024 15:30
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Cleretic posted:You know what, sometimes I actually kinda like finding out that a celebrity is just a normal type of rear end in a top hat, rather than a 'causes mass harm and believes in eugenics or something' type of rear end in a top hat. Something of a dick yeah, but I think OP is blowing it out of proportion. Hans does need to learn that other people are not Hans and can't just kick down the door to the editors room and dictate to the directors and editors how your music is going to be mixed in.
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Apr 28, 2024 15:40
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Big 'crotchety tenured art professor' vibes from Hans here
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Runcible Cat posted:Link? First google result for "eripsa somethingawful" https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3462638&pagenumber=28 Marble stuff is several posts down, but earlier posts are in the same depressing vein.
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PurpleXVI posted:I don't think social media is inherently evil, it's just people reaching out to talk to people. It's no more inherently cursed than a conversation or a bulletin board. Where the evil is, is social media with the brakes off, like Twitter being essentially unmoderated, allowing harassment and weird bot-posting to run wild, or engines that hunger desperately for deeper and deeper engagement, using algorithms to feed you more of what keeps you hanging around. That's what's going to create weird addictive feedback loops and get someone hurt.
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