UKMT April 2020 - The Betacoronavirus and the Virgin Atlantic

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TACD: Oct 27, 2000

For people asking why Zoom sucks so much, Ars has done a handy summary of their privacy blunders and �oops haha didn�t mean to� fixes so far. They�re sketchy as hell and there�s plenty of other options out there.

Edit: Actually I don�t think that article even mentions the secret webserver they previously installed on user�s computers.

TACD fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Apr 1, 2020

# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 01:11

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 11:51

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Guavanaut posted:

Do not arson your council.

I'll put my arse on whatever I like

# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 10:39

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

OwlFancier posted:

Isn't "died with" or "died after" fairly normal news phrasing for people who clearly die of things because that way they don't have to commit to anything as strong as a causative relationship between terminal cancer and people dying?

Just usual news being loving cowards.

Doesn't look like it:

Also, most of the 'died with' results are things like "died with a colleague" or "died with three men in a blast". 'Died of' is the things you'd usually expect.

Being charitable, one might guess that 'died with' is the safe phrasing in the absence of an official coroner's report or something.

TACD fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Apr 2, 2020

# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 17:56

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

zentigeist posted:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-51952607

I don't know why this really got me this morning, she's so young and had three kids

E: I just now noticed they said she died "with Covid-19" so loving annoying man. Her sister said she was normally healthy and she died on a loving ventilator. Nah bro, the BBC are even more full of poo poo than usual.

I dunno I noticed today the Guardian has been phrasing things as 'X died after being diagnosed with COVID'. I think this is just weaselly news phrasing because they're reporting these before anybody has done an official cause-of-death thing rather than some big media conspiracy.

# ¿ Apr 3, 2020 11:23

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

ThomasPaine posted:

A guy I have one Facebook works in a supermarket and is furious because people keep insisting on paying cash and holding notes in their mouths while they count out coins lmao

Suddenly having flashbacks to working the checkouts at ASDA and feeling disgusted rage at every person ritually slurping the ends of their fingers while counting out notes and coupons. What a gross and loving useless habit.

# ¿ Apr 3, 2020 12:47

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

justcola posted:

My facebook is jammed full of 'please don't politicise this' stuff as if 'politics' only applies to the loony left and magic money trees and other infantilisation of any language outside their sphere of knowledge.

Yea a nurse I'm friends with posted something along the lines of "I don't need clapping, I need a decade of lost funding and PPE" and some Tory oval office wandered in to say that the clapping was a nice show of support, and he fully supported the NHS of course, but it was neither the time or place to politicise these things. Now more than ever we need to strongly push back against this idea that politics happens over here, and the rest of our lives happens over here.

My partner just found she's been furloughed which is a bit of a surprise as she works in packaging and they've been working on boxes for COVID tests. Sounds like her company is planning on furloughing her for a day or two at a time and then bringing her back even though the minimum duration is clearly stated as 3 weeks; if they try to do that who should she talk to? She's not in a union.

# ¿ Apr 3, 2020 14:36

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

I told my partner that it's illegal to do any work while on furlough (cheers to whoever posted that previously!) and she's been spending the whole afternoon ringing up her colleagues to make sure they don't get tempted to do so much as answer an email while on furlough, and also letting everybody know that the furlough minimum is 3 weeks so that if they get called back early they know to demand their full wages for the entire period :swoon:

# ¿ Apr 3, 2020 16:07

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

How about that, hope was a lie after all

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 15:03

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Azza Bamboo posted:

I don't want Boris to die. He'll become a rockstar PM whose greatest hits were seeing the biggest Labour defeat in generations, getting the brexit bill through, and then starting the lockdown. I want him to live to become washed up, not in our eyes (he already is here) but more widely.

He would become a martyr and that would suck, but on the other hand he would also be dead

E: gently caress me though what if he got a statue

# ¿ Apr 5, 2020 23:09

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

poor Boris, died of chronic 5G exposure

# ¿ Apr 5, 2020 23:23

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Sonderval posted:

Wow, I know this thread has its tongue firmly up labours arse and will dog-pile death threats on anyone that supports anyone else but wishing the PM dead in the middle of a pandemic is loving pathetic.

nah don't worry mate I'd wish Boris Johnson dead on a regular day as well

# ¿ Apr 6, 2020 00:19

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

If he doesn�t die he�s going to be untouchable. Even the mildest criticism of his plan to murder orphan babies in their sleep will be attacked as a scurrilous smear of Brave Boris the Survivor who bested Death himself in his dedication to Queen and country, gawd bless �im.

# ¿ Apr 7, 2020 08:37

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Dog Friday posted:

Not getting why everyone is onboard with this �it�s not political� nonsense? It absolutely is political surely since the person involved has made undermining healthcare a political priority. Seems conservatives have been so quick to take this position because their policies are looking pretty stupid right now, everyone else shouldn�t fall for it.

https://twitter.com/libcomorg/status/1247257255264882688

# ¿ Apr 7, 2020 14:41

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

RockyB posted:

Obligatory fortnightly supermarket trip report: Goddamn are those arrows on the floor annoying. More people going the wrong way than were actually following them.

Saw toilet paper in the wild for the first time in a month though.

Are you in London? The supermarkets I've been to in Sheffield have been almost totally normal in terms of stock for a while now. We went to Costco earlier and they had the usual mountains of toilet roll and other paper products, the only thing they were a bit low on was soap.

OwlFancier posted:

Grow your hair out and stop shaving, it's appropriate.

Yea I'm using this opportunity to see if my beard can ever get past the scraggly desert island survivor stage. So far I'm not optimistic.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2020 15:31

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Guavanaut posted:

Avoid the temptation of these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mBeYC2KGc

Consider an exhaust fan, or just crack the window and have a tower fan.

Is there a summary of this 17 minute video berating what I believe to be my only air conditioning option? The entire west-facing wall of our flat is a giant window that spend all afternoon being heated by the sun, and the only openable window is about a foot wide. We're really fighting a losing battle trying to keep the inside of the place a livable temperature but if there's a better solution I'm all ears.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2020 15:46

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

In your situation a portable AC unit would really struggle, i think. Even mine can struggle and we have a small window that faces west.

If i were you i would literally just cover the window in foil to reflect the light out

I think we honestly might do that this year; it was very uncomfortable last year when we were only in the flat after work, and it seems likely we'll still be working from home this summer.

jabby posted:

Which is true, but considering in the UK we have no pressing need for permanent installs and our windows don't typically suit mounting something on them, portable is all we got. They work, they're just inefficient and often noisy. But if you're only using it for a few days a year, just get one.

lol 'a few days per year' == probably every day from May until September. We have a unit with an exhaust host already but it's extremely old and cranky. From skimming that video it seems like our best option would be to get a dual-hose unit but loving hell, ~�600+ is a lot to spend on a big noisy box to make cold

# ¿ Apr 8, 2020 16:09

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Guavanaut posted:

Air conditioners have a hot bit, a cold bit, and a noisy bit.

Split system or window units keep the hot and noisy bits outside, portable units have them all inside.

Also single hose portable units use the indoor air, which they just cooled, to cool the hot bits and vent that outside, which lowers the pressure in your room, which causes hot outside air to come in, so they work against themselves.

As he notes, if it is literally your only option, consider getting a dual hose one, where at least it's using outside air to cool the hot bits rather than the cool air that you want to keep in your home.

Thanks for this

That third point seems to be the interesting one (for my situation) that I can potentially act on.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2020 16:11

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Got a pizza delivery today and the bastards have gotten rid of half the deals and like two thirds of the pizza options! :argh:

# ¿ Apr 8, 2020 23:15

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

learnincurve posted:

I�m not sure I want to meet the Liberal Democrat voter who thought �I know, now is the perfect time to put in a passport application!�
Same energy as that Facebook dude who went around taking photos of a hospital to highlight how unsafe the staff were (and got 12 weeks)

My passport expires in April but the passport application page says not to apply for one unless it's urgent, so I'm also hoping a driving license will suffice for any official purposes in the foreseeable future.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2020 12:16

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

So instead of preventing people nipping to the shops to buy a six-pack, we're just going to make them also buy a pint of milk and a loaf of bread that'll go straight into the bin when they get home.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2020 15:34

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Why the gently caress are you all thinking about clapping instead of drinking, playing video games, and posting

# ¿ Apr 9, 2020 20:18

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Are schools in the us shut down? It's probably averaging about the same death rate as normal with school shootings not able to happen.

hahaha goddamn

# ¿ Apr 9, 2020 23:12

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

He's reading "Down with the NHS how we can get turmps healthcare in 1 year or less" - Nigel Farage next to patients dying in hallways from lack of funding

Boris is absolutely going to come out of hospital with lots of "first-hand experience" and ideas of how to cut spending even more. Anything he's seen that wasn't 100% utilised for round-the-clock life-saving care is expendable.

# ¿ Apr 10, 2020 09:11

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

crispix posted:

I thought reee was just a pig noise

no that�s nee-naw nee-naw

# ¿ Apr 12, 2020 01:27

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Those people advocating staying in the party to change it from within - how? What's the mechanism? I genuinely don't understand how a declining post-Corbyn membership is supposed to root out the numerous bad actors within the party now when it couldn't be done over the past five years.

E: Ah I just saw Chucat asking the exact same thing, lol

TACD fucked around with this message at 11:20 on Apr 13, 2020

# ¿ Apr 13, 2020 11:15

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Chucat posted:

How do you fix the Morning Star's terf problem?

If you can't fix a relatively sympathetic organization with a staff size in the low tens, how the gently caress do you fix an actively antagonistic organization with a ton of money behind it?

Yea, this is why I don't have any faith in the 'stay in Labour to change it!' philosophy. What's the case study for anything like this being successful that we should be working from? Because if there isn't then it feels as useless as online petitions or boycotts.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2020 11:25

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Josef bugman posted:

Because it's a start.

What does that mean, concretely? Jeremy Corbyn as leader was a start. The massive surge in membership was a start. What concrete steps should be taken next, knowing what we know?

ThomasPaine posted:

As I say, militancy. You don't ask politely. You're not an external force to them. You create parallel power structures within the party while using every dirty trick in the book to undermine your enemies, and when your parallel power structure is big and influential enough, you stop recognising their authority over you and dare them to assert their power. And they can't.

This sounds good, but what are the steps we need to take? What's the roadmap for this?

I'm completely uneducated about any of this and there's probably some good books I should read, but I feel like a lot of other people are in the same situation - I want to help improve things, but just saying 'get involved' and 'organise' is not a useful instruction to somebody like me who has literally never in his life seen anything materially improve as the result of politics or organised action in general and therefore has no idea of what successful organisation looks like, and who doubts that such a thing is even possible any more.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2020 11:41

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

WhatEvil posted:

So I guess what I'm saying is be *very* thankful for what you've got in the UK in terms of food.

In particular, be thankful for it over the next eight months in preparation for wistfully reminiscing about it for the rest of your life after that.

# ¿ Apr 16, 2020 09:21

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Guavanaut posted:

That's how political processes normally work though; groups or individuals that represent large numbers of people (like Streatham CLP or Len McCluskey) get steered to expressing extreme dissatisfaction, write letters with the weight of numbers behind them, and hopefully change happens.

The alternative is individual letter writing, which has the weight of whatever gsm paper you use and ends up in the bin, or hoping for some series of events that ends up with George Galloway parking tanks on Iain McNicol's lawn, .

Honestly it sounds like it would be easier and more productive to join the Conservatives and be a shitposting wrecker than to stay in Labour and try to be genuinely useful.

# ¿ Apr 16, 2020 12:05

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Prism Mirror Lens posted:

Google being bad is a side-effect of the whole internet being bad. Anything you search for comes up with 5000 pages of adverts, listicles, Quora and Pinterest links only vaguely related to your query, but it�s not wrong. That�s just all there is now.

# ¿ Apr 17, 2020 17:09

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

shame on all of you for not adding progressively worse jpeg compression

# ¿ Apr 17, 2020 17:33

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

I don�t think anybody here does clapping, they just let fireworks off incredibly close to our block of flats instead.

# ¿ Apr 17, 2020 23:02

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Barry Foster posted:

minimum wage but also they dock your pay for accomodation and food

like, from what I've heard it's essentially indentured servitude, and if you don't pick enough a day or if it isn't high enough quality they'll get rid of you immediately

lol what the gently caress

# ¿ Apr 18, 2020 13:03

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Gonzo McFee posted:

Lol Boris never turned up to all the emergency meetings and did gently caress all prep work even when told it'd kill half a million people.

well yea why would he show up after being told the virus was going to do his job for him

# ¿ Apr 19, 2020 01:49

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

crispix posted:

I'm even more basic, I use that there garlic paste what comes in the tubes and is 60p odd

We have the tube of garlic, and crushed garlic in a jar, but also a garlic press we use fairly often.

Garlic is good

# ¿ Apr 20, 2020 12:20

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Dell_Zincht posted:

Wank yourself silly, no shame in giving the captain the ol' tug, especially if you're single.

Reminder that PornHub is giving away free premium

# ¿ Apr 20, 2020 13:53

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Josef bugman posted:

I have never hated anything more than cooking.

I hate the fact that I hate it too. Loads of folks love it, I just want to get it over with. I don't think I do anything right, I don't know the recipes as well as I should and it just leaves me in the grim knowledge that virtually any take away I could have would be better.

Nah I'm right there with you. Cooking is the most miserable chore that exists, it stresses me out more than almost anything else and I don't find it rewarding or relaxing at all.

Prism Mirror Lens posted:

Yeah cooking fukcing sucks and is made worse by everyone being so moralising over it. If you say you don�t like it everyone pops up to talk about how unhealthy and wasteful you are and how you just don�t know how to do it properly.

# ¿ Apr 20, 2020 16:06

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Aphex- posted:

Anyone who hates spending too much time cooking should really invest in a slow cooker. They're cheap (i got mine for like �25) and you just chuck in all the ingredients in it in the morning and it's done by dinner time. Sometimes you should brown the meat before putting it in but apart from that, that's all there is to it. I've made some really tasty curries, goulash, pulled pork and loads more in it.

Slow cooker is definitely on our kitchen wish list but we have absolutely no space for any more stuff until we move house and lol on that front.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2020 11:33

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Barry Foster posted:

Is it ok that I'm finding myself having to actively not think of the new figures as anything more than A Number? It worries me that I've been doing that for awhile now.

It's pretty much how I cope, because I started this whole thing actively worrying about/vividly imagining the plight of the victims and their families and it was making me a mess.

But that is also how tories and capitalists think

EDIT like, I feel like I should be way more upset about today's news, but I kinda saw it coming anyway

There is really no benefit to staying up-to-date with all the latest numbers on this situation. That's true most of the time but especially so now. Turn off the news, it's not helping you or anybody else to stress out about it.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2020 12:13

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 11:51

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Today I've managed to come across some people who seem to believe the government is actually inflating the number of people who have died from the rona which is just such an astounding reversal of reality I'm a bit dumbfounded.

In two months' time: "The UK population was never more than 40 million, actually"

# ¿ Apr 22, 2020 20:45

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