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Dec 10, 2011

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

We GOT BREXIT DONE and so will not be using filthy French spellings any more.



The Germans spell it "meter". There is no escape from the EU.

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Dec 10, 2011

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TheRat posted:

One thing to keep in mind is that China didn't have the benefit of knowing that something was happening. All they had for a while was an increasing frequency of strange pneumonia. Now, nobody is denying that they hosed up with their secrecy early on, but once they realised how bad poo poo was they did a loving amazing job of turning it around. Most western governments have managed to do a lot worse with a lot more information to start out with.

True, but it does mean that you have to multiply the number of cases in China by five to allow for the asymptomatic cases they have not tracked until now. I'm expecting a second flare-up there around June, and hopefully they are too - they will be able to lock it down a lot sooner.

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Dec 10, 2011

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

That's what they seem to be, yeah, but I'd literally never heard of them until now so if they're getting that obscure may God have mercy on us all.

Cowboy Junkies are one of the best known alt-country acts in the world and have been for decades. I've seen them live multiple times.

Also while the cowboys are junkies, they're hanging out with Jane's Addiction.

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Dec 10, 2011

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EmptyVessel posted:

Unfortunately the answers disagree, sadly.

Then the answers are wrong, because the girl between the two cowboys wearing rags and a grass skirt is beyond shadow of a doubt Jane from the Tarzan stories. Katy Perry even wore an almost identical costume to play the part in a music video.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Fortunately I've never found it necessary to have fans to sleep at night.

Just as well, nobody's that big a fan of you.

Jedit fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Apr 3, 2020

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Dec 10, 2011

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Immunology pioneer William Frankland has died aged 108. He was one of the last people who remembered the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918 and worked with Fleming on penicillin. Lucid to the end as well.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Azza Bamboo posted:

A lot of tears itt. Also "if you're not with me then you're against me" thinking.

Didn't take you long to get to the "lol ur tears taste so sweet" phase after voting Vidkun Quisling to own the Nazis.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Azza Bamboo posted:

You seem sure that anyone who isn't Corbyns legacy is a Blairite like it's a binary switch in every Labour politician.

I'm sure that the man who saw a left wing candidate win the party leadership three times due to support from the membership and said this meant the membership had too much say in who led the party is not going to have the interests of the left in mind.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Jippa posted:

A "leading" German virologist:


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/02/no-proof-coronavirus-can-spread-shopping-says-leading-german/



"Coronavirus has not been spread by shopping or going to the hairdresser, a leading virologist has said after studying a hotspot for the virus.

Prof Hendrik Streeck, leading the response in one of Germany's worst-hit regions, said Covid-19 might not be spread as easily as people believe."




Any thoughts on this?

Yes, that publishing an "X cures/causes cancer" article that was complete garbage is the Daily Mail's job.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Reeves as Shadow CDOL seems appropriate, given some of the people who have held it in the past for Labour.

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Dec 10, 2011

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It is a significant point that Carrie Symonds has almost certainly contracted the virus from Boris. And she's pregnant. But she hasn't been tested, has she? Because she is not important to him.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Tsietisin posted:

There's no rent deferral either. Landlords are under no obligation to reduce or forgive any rent debt over this whole period.

The only thing that has changed is that a section 21 eviction is now 3 months as opposed to 2. That's it.

One thing though, is that landlords are not entitled to any of the self employed payments that the government recently announced as property is seen as investment and not regular self employed work.

Which only makes them more likely to demand rent.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Since we were talking about the Cowboy Junkies, it's nice to see they put out a video just for Boris.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AudKEn620BY

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Dec 10, 2011

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Tomberforce posted:

Well yeah obviously you can get silly with it but it's a pretty incontestable reality that perception management in politics is very much core business and differentiating between constructed messaging and objective reality can be a challenge.

Though I agree that staging the hospital trip for PR is probably unlikely, it can definately be leveraged favourably

If Boris is doing this as a PR stunt, he kept someone with a genuine case out of a hospital bed to do it. Not out of character, but it cannot be "leveraged favourably".

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Dec 10, 2011

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Josef bugman posted:

I want some fucker to speed run the Grand National.

That is the general idea of a horse race, yes.

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Dec 10, 2011

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OwlFancier posted:

If you don't clap for boris he's going to die.

Such a shame that I am holding my phone at the moment.

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Dec 10, 2011

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OwlFancier posted:

"I'm not a tory but..." is the same energy as "I'm not racist but..." change my mind

They're called "synonyms".

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Dec 10, 2011

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Communist Thoughts posted:

The general tone of the BBC has been basically identical to the North Korean media we make fun of.

Like the whole "Boris is working hard in hospital and wishes everyone the best, a dove landed on his outstretched hand"

Time to die.

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Dec 10, 2011

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TACD posted:

If he doesn’t die he’s going to be untouchable. Even the mildest criticism of his plan to murder orphan babies in their sleep will be attacked as a scurrilous smear of Brave Boris the Survivor who bested Death himself in his dedication to Queen and country, gawd bless ‘im.

Our press would do that if he'd never had the virus. But I think you're wrong if you think that Boris is untouchable over this. Fascists don't tolerate weakness, and Boris is no Thatcher with years of service and achievement to look back on. The Tories are going to angle to get rid of him if he lives, and to render him forgotten if he dies.

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Dec 10, 2011

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MonkeyLibFront posted:

If I may interrupt the Boris death chat, are there any comparative study of austerity vs if austerity had not been taken.

I'm having a conversation with someone who doesn't believe austerity increased or hastened the the mortality rate, when I gave him various studies he retorted that doing nothing would have killed more, I tried to explain it wasn't an either or moment.

Send him the photo of the guy who starved to death after his benefits were unjustly removed, and ask if that man would have died if not for austerity.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Barry Foster posted:

Does Big Train have a laugh track? I've tried to get into it a few times but couldn't and often that's the reason why but I can't remember

The reason why is probably because Big Train didn't have any jokes.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Bardeh posted:

So Starmer did a Zoom call with some jews and anti-semitism is solved? Why didn't Jeremy just do that?!

He did, but when they asked him if he felt that Palestinians deserved to exist he gave the wrong* answer.

* FCVO

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Dec 10, 2011

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Butternubs posted:

The people wishing for Boris' death are sick.

I'd really rather he makes a full recovery so he can go on trial and be executed for crimes against humanity, much more satisfying.

1) Not really, for reasons already expressed.

2) He'd never be executed anyway, so settle for what you can get.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Tesseraction posted:

The right wing will always coopt the successful strategies of the left.

Like calling themselves "socialists".

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Dec 10, 2011

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Communist Thoughts posted:

Yeah I'm not sure how I'm gonna avoid infecting my partner or vice versa if one of us gets it. We only have one loo and kitchen.

Almost like home isolation is a bad idea.

No, it's a really good idea because you only infect your partner instead of the two of you infecting the entire loving cabinet like a certain moron of our mutual acquaintance.

E: 96 is the recommended position if you don't want to get coronavirus.

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Dec 10, 2011

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jabby posted:

The idea is ward staff should start CPR in their crappy masks/aprons but don't do any airway management until the arrest team arrives in full PPE and takes over.

I'm wondering if the idea isn't that you stop doing CPR. Never mind that your professional ethics prevent it - remember that you are dealing with utterly unethical people here.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Bobstar posted:

I agree this is the sort of thing they would do, but I'm not sure they'd be able to keep it from leaking. Like if he's just sitting in Downing Street, then surely it's not illegal for someone at St Thomas' to say "nope, no PM here". And if he is sitting in the hospital playing his gameboy, it would still get out.

I would not put it past him to have deliberately got himself infected in the belief that he would only get a mild case and could say "See, no big deal, back to work". It's consistent with people saying he's Big Strong Man Who Has Never Been Sick.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Gorn Myson posted:

I'm not despairing. Way I see it, we're just back where we were in 2015. I've followed this thread since before Cameron's election, and I'm pretty sure a lot of us before Corbyn either voted for Labour while holding our noses or voted for them for the first time in 2017.

Theres lots of places to go from here and to be honest some of my favourite discussions in this thread since in the election has been alternative ways to advance a leftist movement that don't exclusively entail "take over the Labour Party again and be better than Corbyn at running it".

Besides, the toughest thing about being a left wing Labour member right now is that you're now in a party which contains a substantial amount of people who have at some point wondered many times if Keir Starmer would be in Hufflepuff or Gryffindor.

I thought they all voted Lib Dem.

Either way I see no profit in telling Azza to gently caress off to Starmfront just yet. From the backbenches the Labour right may be happier for Labour to lose than for leftists to win, but now they're in charge they have to deal with how to get voters to turn out for them when they wouldn't turn out for Corbyn. We have seen from blind polling that Corbynite policies are popular even if he wasn't (due to character assassination, but still), and the Tories are even adopting some of those policies themselves. He can't kick out the whole 2019 manifesto at this point.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Azza Bamboo posted:

I was more into movies and comics as a kid. The visual world appeals to me more than words. John Constantine, Hellblazer was my jam and I've never seen any live action version nail it.

Matt Ryan nailed it so well in the shortlived TV series that they brought him back to reprise the role in the Arrowverse shows.

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Dec 10, 2011

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happyhippy posted:

Ah Blue Peter.
That show that confused the poo poo out of every NI kid.
Where you always wondered where the gently caress you get sticky back plastic near you (no newsagents or such near me had any), why England had an abundance of it,

But you weren't meant to. They always said "you should use an oxyacetylene welding torch for this, but we're using double sided sticky tape for speed".

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Dec 10, 2011

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OwlFancier posted:

Reducing people's ability to be in contact with each other reduces their ability to spread it to other people or contract it, so it will likely have some effect. However because it was so delayed a lot of people will have gone home to infect their families so it will be far less effective than a similar policy done earlier.

Also the lack of closure of many workplaces and lax enforcement on public contact with others means it's probably not going to be very good for that reason too.

Too little, too late, deaths likely to be highest in europe by a large margin.

It's been projected that the UK is going to have 40% of deaths in Europe. Every single one of them will be the fault of the Tories.

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Dec 10, 2011

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/uk-will-be-europes-worst-hit-by-coronavirus-study-predicts

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Dec 10, 2011

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https://twitter.com/IsabelOakeshott/status/1248569338896023552

The narrative commences to turn.

Also you can garner some schadenfreude from the replies, where the usual gang of gammons haven't yet adapted to the conflicting narrative and are about to start calling Oakeshott a traitor if they haven't already.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Jose posted:

lol priti patel is giving todays press conference about covid

Someone was just saying on another forum that Patel hasn't been seen in weeks.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Strom Cuzewon posted:

When Diane Abbot says something dumb she tends to stumble, and there's always a moment of "hang on is that what I meant?".

Priti Patel, just says dumb stuff, and then repeats with talismanic confidence. When she was arguing about the death penality on QT she kept talking about "maximum burden of proof" which makes me think that she just doesn't know what the words mean. But because she (and Raab) are much more polished in their delivery they don't get called out for it.

That's because when Abbott says something dumb it's generally the result of mild hypoglycaemia from her diabetes. Patel also has a medical condition, but in her case it's called stupidity.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Well, to be fair she does, and will continue to do so as they drag her away in a straitjacket.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Ms Adequate posted:

I'm so glad I'm not the only know who knows the TRUE origin of "simp"

Though not well enough to know it's 2000AD, not AD2000. Grexnix.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Failed Imagineer posted:

guess we know what pissflasps has been up to post-threadban

https://twitter.com/newliquidvessel/status/1249381342485217282

We already know who the one person was - it was Margaret Hodge. I don't know why they were being coy about it.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Ash Crimson posted:

Sorry for my negative comments itt, it's been a rough year both politically and personally; to find out that the labour "elite" literally, not figuratively, sabotaged their own leader because of ideological reasons is really depressing and makes me wonder if we could have avoided the debacle that we're in now wrt Corona and it's handling by the tories

Trying to stay positive is difficult at the best of times, even more so when things go bad. Not an excuse, it doesn't excuse my behaviour, just an attempt at explaining my thought process and reaction

I'm not going to jump down your throat, but if at all possible you need to have introspective thoughts like this before you post. Or just ask for help and reassurance at the same time.

Take some comfort in the knowledge that it's coming out that there is anti-Semitism and Islamophobia in Labour, and that it should be purged. Take comfort in this because it's all on the Blue Labour/anti-Corbyn side of the party, that Starmer has blown his shot already by not releasing the report, and is now faced with the prospect of expelling his own allies from the party.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

What does AAPG stand for? I tried googling but all I got was American Association of Petroleum Geologists and I'm sure that isn't what it means here ;)

Something something Parliamentary Group.

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Dec 10, 2011

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sebzilla posted:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeiTCrGhaoksBvCdbhU4F8OQw_gRRp1KAU3DKmszwqvmqeXFg/viewform

Signing letters is worth next to nothing but it takes two minutes so go hog wild

It would take me longer, I'd have to join the Labour Party first.

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