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Yeah, since this is a source port of the pre-tib sun games the tib sun AI is mostly irrelevant. I'd expect a direct port of the original AI for the campaigns so as to not break mission scripts, but likely a more modern AI for skirmish since there's much more freedom of implementation there.
Chev fucked around with this message at 10:26 on May 28, 2020 |
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LLJKSiLk posted:Question: Will they eventually remaster all of them? Chev fucked around with this message at 18:25 on May 28, 2020 |
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Mordja posted:Desperately need a mod that makes NOD's tank inexplicably look like a Bradley IFV. In Renegade X one of the bonus crate vehicles is the Bradley IFV version of the light tank. No idea if that could also happen in the actual Renegade.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2020 17:30 |
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Fister Roboto posted:They should have given the option to keep the scanlines from the originals.
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Carecat posted:I was surprised how little they throw you into the game with. The tiberium explanation happens way later and you don't really get a lot about Kane.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2020 18:23 |
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Burns posted:Besides functionality issues RA2 seems to hold up quite well grahically speaking, excluding the vehicles. Tiberian Sun really could use a remaster.
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2020 16:42 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:What the gently caress It's easy to forget but it's in the era where completely rewriting the ports was the norm.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2020 06:11 |
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Yeah, the infantry stat factoid that's all too easily overlooked when you only consider numbers is "less than half the health" is actually more like "there's still some hair stuck to my tracks".
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2020 16:07 |
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Regarding playtesting, according to the Tiberian Sun postmortem on Gamasutra, it got three months of purely internal playtesting, ie the devs playing it locally. You'll likely find Starcraft got more and wider scale playtesting.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2020 15:28 |
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Spookydonut posted:
What really cracks me up is they remade the whole netrunner room (along many others including the end-credits-only Nod museum) in Renegade's temple of Nod level.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2020 17:29 |
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Fruits of the sea posted:Tiberian Sun was not well received on release because a lot of features that were promised never made it into the final game. A casualty of short development time. According to the post mortem they wrote about it it wasn't due to dev time, it's just that the features didn't work and several of them had been announced without checking whether they were feasible at all, Molyneux-style. As for the "short" development time, they extened it by nine months, for a total of three years which hardly seems short for the time (Starcraft took the same time), and it still wasn't enough. They don't say it was too short for what they planned, they say they planned things that they thought would be trivial and weren't (How complicated would it be to switch to isometric? Surely there can't be that many bits of the engine hardcoded to assume screen aligned tiles? Right? Right?).
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2020 13:17 |
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So far the best guess is the HD graphics are using some kinda fancy load-on-demand texturing scheme instead of just having everything precached, so it loads tons of stuff in the early game. There also seems to be some vsync problem.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2020 22:52 |
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Sample_text posted:I'm dying to see a HD sprite of this:
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2020 11:59 |
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power crystals posted:I think the problem is that Nod in TD doesn't really have a motive beyond "oppose GDI" so they're pretty open to interpretation on whether that's good or bad. Yeah, Kane is in love with tiberium, but it doesn't really go into "why" all that much. If your reading is "GDI = good guys" which is certainly the expected reading at least at a surface level then it makes sense to assume that the other guys must be bad. Plus all the red theming, the Hand literally grasping the world, etc. I mean yeah that reasoning falls apart if you look at for more than ten seconds, but it's not like there was much else to go on until TS came around. Chev fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Jun 27, 2020 |
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:anyone else think it's kind of odd that they force you into remastered graphics for multiplayer? not that i'm complaining, necessarily, i just don't really grok why you can't toggle it like you can offline. Chev fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Jun 28, 2020 |
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Yeah, I don't think OpenRA has anything to do with the motivations behind the remaster, it's been around for like 13 years (and they were already working on Tiberian Sun support in 2016). It happened because after the whole Rivals debacle EA tasked someone with figuring out what that whole Command & Conquer thing was, and found they could rely on some actual ex-Westwood at Petroglyph instead of, say, having to ask Bioware to botch an Ultima.
Chev fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Sep 21, 2020 |
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The unit voxel files just don't contain enough information for a good looking upscale, especially for the less blocky RA2 stuff, they'll most certainly just use bona fide 3d models (likely still by Lemon Sky). The touch up work you'd need would be just the same as making them from scratch, as many a would-be RA2-in-Renegade modder has discovered. Plus there's nothing justifying the development of GPU-compatible voxel rendering for the vehicles when they could just get better performance from 3d models in this era, even super high detail ones. All they'll need is a bit of shader work to make the unit lighting look like it did back then and it'll look great.
Chev fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Oct 14, 2020 |
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I'm merely using it as the main community that looked into upscaling voxel models. However, the conclusion wasn't that it just wasn't good enough for full size FPS vehicles, just that it really isn't good for any kind of upscale. They're really, really rough, not particularly distant from the C&C/RA1 sprites in terms of details, and the spatial information doesn't make up for it at all. Just training a neural network to acknowledge that the gray things on the sides of this are wheels would be a technical challenge (and a simpler upscaler would just see them as boxes), let alone deducing the finer details that are just lost but would be necessary to at least meet the visual standard set by the first remaster collection. On the other hand give those two pictures to a human modeler and you'll get a good first iteration in like two hours.
Chev fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Oct 14, 2020 |
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Yeah, I'm not interested in a remake but I definitely want a remaster in the same vein as the one this thread's about.
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Red Alert 2 is hugely popular in China but apparently the funny story is it happened through a pirate release and specifically repackaging a mod that added an overpowered China faction. C&C itself is merely a footnote on Red Alert 2's glory (which is why Tencent went with it for their mobile game), and Generals isn't too liked because of its inaccurate (even within General's general tone) depiction of China.
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