   Meet your 2020 candidate: https://howiehawkins.us/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crJHg5XazdM
    Corpse eating ghouls at the DNC are trying their best to rig Green Party ballot access in all 50 states. CURRENT BALLOT ACCESS AS OF THIS POST FOR 2020:  FOR COMPARISON OF 2016:  So why vote for the Green Party? Because the Democratic Party has literally been nothing but controlled opposition by the capitalist class ever since the racist, reactionary, and anti-Democratic implementation of superdelegates in the party as a “check” on the populism of the 60s - namely the antiwar movement, the civil rights movement, and the great society programs. Leftism and Democracy in America both enjoyed their zenith during the 60s, and it clearly spooked the rentier class and military-industrial complex alike. The highly orchestrated ratfucking of the Bernie Sanders campaign in both 2016 and 2020 by the DNC and their billionaire owners indisputably affirms how this rot of a political party still cares for nothing other than the bottom line of their masters - even during the worldwide collapse of neoliberalism capitalism right now. The Democratic Party platform is “liberalism”, but it is nothing more than inverted totalitarianism i.e. American Fascism in practice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUGh1Su7-ok Whatever you do, just don’t vote for the vicious segregationist with a history of prioritizing capital at the expense of labor (human wellbeing) during his entire career. Oh, and he’s a rapist now, too: https://joebiden.info/ A4R8 has issued a correction as of 18:42 on Apr 15, 2020 |
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no green party. its a dumb name and failed political project. new party plz
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:no green party. its a dumb name and failed political project.  
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actually nuclear power is good op
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oh yeah 100% renewable energy is literally impossible to achieve without a nuclear backbone. greens are dumb as hell and structural destined for failure. new party plz.
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I was thinking we take a raving communist shitposter from somewhere, and put him in like a suit of power armor or something, give him a purple mohawk. Legally change his name to 'Ultimate Killsman", find a hot goth/scene girlfriend-wife* for him, and run him on a platform of m4a, green deal, and putting anyone with greater total wealth than $999,999,999.99 into a gulag. Would the Green Party be ready to run such a candidate? If so I'll team up with you guys instead of making my own party. *note that since I am a feminist i am equally open to the idea of a power-armored 'Ultimate Killswoman" with a boy-toy husband** **note that since I am not a TERF either they could really be any gender or sexual combination, just so long as they're both attractive enough to get the horny vote from the CHUD public of the united states
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good luck powering that armor without a nuclear reactor
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Then get in the party and change the platform. I like PSL’s platform more, but their ballot access is essentially nonexistent.
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Green party's brand is garbage, as is the Democrats' New party with a labor/worker themed name
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:no green party. its a dumb name and failed political project.
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oxsnard posted:Green party's brand is garbage, as is the Democrats' We’re turning it into the eco-Maoist party 
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im writing in bernie
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decentralization sucks. central planning or gently caress off
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I’m done with voting sry
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A4R8 posted:Then get in the party and change the platform. I like PSL’s platform more, but their ballot access is essentially nonexistent. Bernie Sanders tried that.
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green party is an ecofascist party and believes in eugenics and controlled genocide for population reduction also lol at nonviolence when the only way to challenge the bourgeoisie is through violence
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Chuka Umana posted:green party is an ecofascist party and believes in eugenics and controlled genocide for population reduction I think the worst economic catastrophe in American history over the next few months will make third parties much more viable Go green or PSL or write in bernie
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A4R8 posted:I think the worst economic catastrophe in American history over the next few months will make third parties much more viable I just don't see the green party being that third party. Everyone not living on the west coast knows them as the stoner party
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bernie doesn't support nuclear energy either ya morons.
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Chuka Umana posted:
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write in bernie. it's the only way
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:no green party. its a dumb name and failed political project. oxsnard posted:Green party's brand is garbage, as is the Democrats' New parties can't win votes right away, because they don't have ballot access. That's why DSA is more like an organized pressure group that tries to push for leftist candidates within the Democratic Party, parasite-style. Last major third party that got a ton of ballot access was the Reform Party, because Perot was a billionaire and a glory hound who snapped up a lot of energy and attention into doing that. And the duopoly has tightened up those regulations since '92. Also, Green parties are doing well in Europe for some reason- German Greens are on the rise, Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo, they won a bunch of seats in the EU parliament in 2019. Greens are also in the ruling coalition in Austria with the right-wing, because not all Greens are left-wing  .otoh, the U.S. Greens are clearly social democratic to democratic socialist, heck Howie Hawkins wants a U.S. version of the NHS, which is further to the left than what Sanders is proposing. And he got arrested protesting a health insurance company ten years ago. When was the last time Bernie got arrested for that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41CTaaKwfgc Dreddout posted:I just don't see the green party being that third party. Everyone not living on the west coast knows them as the stoner party Everyone knows them as the guys who ran Nader and caused Bush v. Gore. Donuts know them as the guys who ran Jill Stein and blame them for losing Michigan and some other states Trumps Baby Hands posted:write in bernie. it's the only way A bunch of states require write-in candidates to officially file in beforehand, so unless you live in one of those states, and Bernie decides to file in there to run third party (he won't), or if there's write-in movements in your state to draft him like in 2016, you might as well vote for Mickey Mouse or Karl Marx because your write-in vote will basically not get counted.
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Maximo Roboto posted:A bunch of states require write-in candidates to officially file in beforehand, so unless you live in one of those states, and Bernie decides to file in there to run third party (he won't), or if there's write-in movements in your state to draft him like in 2016, you might as well vote for Mickey Mouse or Karl Marx because your write-in vote will basically not get counted. god will know
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Look OP I'm not a Bernie fanboy and progressives are not the Bernie movement but if Bernie isn't the Democratic nominee I will write in Bernie. Just kidding, I'll stay home.
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I'm probably voting green just to make the DNC bootlicker crowd upset Electoral politics is a dead end but if I can use it as an instrument of personal antagonism against people I hate, that's enough of a motivation for me
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I am now a single issue voter, make the Neera Tandens of the world develop heart disease from impotent rage
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I'm torn. I want to vote for a socialist in November, but Trey and Matt told me hippies are lame.
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Maximo Roboto posted:Also, Green parties are doing well in Europe for some reason- German Greens are on the rise, Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo, they won a bunch of seats in the EU parliament in 2019. Greens are also in the ruling coalition in Austria with the right-wing, because not all Greens are left-wing That's because all europeans are fascists, dipshit. US Greens are farther left than the French Communists ffs
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Howie Hawkins hit praxis on dems long ago
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If you're a leftist who was gung-ho about putting the goddam DEMOCRAT PARTY back in power, even one nominally led by Bernie Sanders, it is absolutely absurd for you to have any qualms about the Green Party and its "brand". I can only imagine some of you have residual anti-Green bias from your Obamailure days. Howie is basically running on Bernie's platform but slightly better. If it makes you feel any better, he's also the Socialist Party USA nominee, so you can tell yourself you're voting for them if the Greens aren't  enough for you.
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Peanut President posted:That's because all europeans are fascists, dipshit. US Greens are farther left than the French Communists ffs Okay, well, the Canadian Green Party did fairly well in last year's elections too, though nothing spectacular. It's been building to a Green moment worldwide
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most of the greens I've met irl have been people who are pretty normal until you talk about politics, then they reveal a yawning abyss of insanity much like cspam, so I like them
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Maximo Roboto posted:Okay, well, the Canadian Green Party did fairly well in last year's elections too, though nothing spectacular. It's been building to a Green moment worldwide the canadian greens are pro market dipshits
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Is there any Green Party in the world that has accomplished anything beyond splitting the labor/socialist/left vote and clinging to a handful useless seats? I'm excluding the US from this since we don't have a labor/socialist/left party of any stripe of course.
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Maximo Roboto posted:Okay, well, the Canadian Green Party did fairly well in last year's elections too, though nothing spectacular. It's been building to a Green moment worldwide US Greens also got their first electoral vote in 2016 (a faithless elector voted Winona LaDuke for VP). They've also been steadily increasing their share of the popular vote in every national election since 2004. Jill Stein in 2016 got more than triple the votes she got in 2012. They're soaking up disaffected lefties basically by default. Imagine if there was an organized movement directing them to vote for Howie as a bloc. I could see 5% as a long shot, but not an impossibility. Failing that, even if he only gets 2-3 million votes, that would be a shock to the Dems. It would prove that the left has some electoral muscle. In short: They hosed around, now they need to find out. Trumps Baby Hands posted:write in bernie. it's the only way Why would you vote for a guy who's going to be spending the general election campaigning for a right-wing rapist? Not only should we not vote for him, we should disavow him and ask for our money back the second he endorses Biden. Vote for someone who actually has the nuts to run in the general.
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thewoof posted:If you're a leftist who was gung-ho about putting the goddam DEMOCRAT PARTY back in power, even one nominally led by Bernie Sanders, it is absolutely absurd for you to have any qualms about the Green Party and its "brand". I can only imagine some of you have residual anti-Green bias from your Obamailure days. Howie is basically running on Bernie's platform but slightly better. Agreed. I much prefer Leninism-Maoism to Green politics, but the Green Party is the best chance we have to simultaneously torpedo the Dems in the general while consolidating a genuine leftist movement. A post-covid-19 world is going to radically change the electorate in the next four years.
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Have the majority of you guys even heard of entryism
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Maximo Roboto posted:Have the majority of you guys even heard of entryism yeh
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Maximo Roboto posted:Have the majority of you guys even heard of entryism Howie kind of looks like Corbyn now that you mention it.
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Maximo Roboto posted:It's been building to a Green moment worldwide This would require the various "greens" to have a cohesive ideology beyond vague environmentalist platitudes. There can't be a "green international" or whatever because greens platform vary wildly from country to country. This isn't even getting into green parties being functionally non-existent in the majority of the global south.
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