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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Takanago posted:

isnt there already a la riva thread
let a thousand flowers bloom

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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that was basically mao telling people to :justpost:

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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he was a real poster's poster you could say

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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marcyists also get associated with the fruit-salad-of-flag-emojis-in-twitter-bio school of marxists, noted by their uncompromising defense of real-existing socialist states. from my reading, though might be wrong, is this rests on the idea that imperialism is the central contradiction, and socialists have a duty to root against their own country if it's imperialist, so you might as well go for broke. whereas the CPUSA types tend to see marcyists as representing an "ultraleft" deviation, since marcyism (i think?) rejects popular fronts, but it has often been the case that the countries you're defending from imperialism have supported popular fronts. like during the vietnam war, the marcyists would show up at a rally with the slogan "victory to the viet cong" printed in full impact font, while the CPUSA would have the slogan "out now" or like essentially a "pro-peace" line as opposed to a pro-war line for the other side (a viet cong victory).

obviously that is what you're rooting for either way since someone was going to win the war, but it scares the liberal peaceniks you'd want to bring over. but then the marcyists would say that's just opportunism. but then the communist party of vietnam was fighting for its survival and looking for any allies it could get, and i don't think they had problems with that approach.

so yeah

i think they adjusted though and adopted "united front" tactics (as opposed to popular front... some differences) which is to the left of a popular front, but not as sectarian as they once were. but it means that they're going to be in control of the united front so it doesn't get watered down by the liberals, and their vehicle for this is the ANSWER Coalition which has punched above its weight, also noteworthy for the defense of the venezuelan embassy last year. the PSL has a reputation for being tightly-knit and able to mobilize quickly, and is very disciplined, but it's also not for everyone and there are certain expectations on the membership in terms of activity and dues (which i hear are pretty high). "sectarian" isn't quite the word i'm looking for, but they have a reputation for focusing on their own actions, and others can come along for the ride or not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXEeS0QvTYY

the dude speaking at 16 seconds or so is brain becker who is one of the PSL supremos. they're not my jazz but that said, i don't think the maduro was sitting in caracas and being like "oh no, how ultra-left of them." i'm sure he was happy there were people willing to take off in a jiffy and defend the embassy.

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 11:52 on May 10, 2020

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
i think it's kinda like skywriting except it's the party for socialism and liberation printed on the ballot and exposing people to it who wouldn't discover it on a dead gay comedy forum like normal people

defensible. that said i prefer the socialist alternative approach of electing a city council member and then having that council member sit there for years being an enormous pain in the rear end to the local boojies

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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world can't wait was the WWP front if i remember right

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Pomeroy posted:

I think that's RCP, though I don't know if they do any work with it anymore, they seem to have gone all in on the Refuse Fascism thing aka James Comey Defense Association
oh that's right. it's late and now i'm getting mixed up

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