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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:What does it mean when people describe the PSL as a “Marcyite” formation? Sam Marcy considered himself a Trotskyist, and broke with the CPUSA during the Browderite period, viewing it as opportunist, but he upheld the Soviet Union as socialist. He joined the SWP, but quickly found principled anti-imperialists to be in the minority. Ultimately, after struggling for a long time for an anti-imperialist line, he lead the pro-Soviet elements in breaking with the party, ultimately forming the Worker's World Party. Elements of the WWP, prominently the San Francisco branch, broke away and, with some other elements, I think ex-CPUSA, formed the PSL in the early 2000's. Presently, the party considers itself neutral on the Stalin vs Trotsky question, but in practice we have far more in common with folks who'd be called Stalinists than with any forces calling themselves Trotskyist.
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I'd say that's a pretty fair characterization. (Replying to BrutalistMcDonalds)
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mcclay posted:I've heard that the PSL has a history of showing up to smaller activist movements and siphoning any talented people/resources they can find; but IDK how true that is. I legit am really thinking about casting a vote for either the PSL or the Greens if Howie Hawkins is the Green nom. My main points of worry are To be upfront, to judge just from Hawkin's self-descriptions, he is probably closer to Anarchism in his thinking than we are. We try not to be dicks to anarchists, we believe in the broadest possible principled unity against our class enemies, but we are unequivocally ML. That said, there are a couple reasons I think an Anarchist might want to favor Gloria. First, speaking just in terms of the Greens, I think Hawkins' statements here https://www.facebook.com/primonutmeg/videos/227138485033094/ represent a real step back from the Stein/Baraka ticket: he refused to give a strong defense of Stein when she was being Russia-baited, and couldn't comment on the espionage charges against Assange without denouncing him, and while eventually saying that he shouldn't be prosecuted for the 2010 charges, but was open to prosecuting him on other espionage charges. Second, my impression of the left unity that the Hawkins ticket is trying to embody, is that it is a unity of parties that are not only not growing at this time of upsurge, but in severe decline, and I don't see his campaign reversing that decline, or breathing a great deal of life into the Greens. I don't know if things are drastically different on the east coast, but I only found out the SPUSA even existed where I am when their entire local membership split to form their own party. Pomeroy has issued a correction as of 08:44 on May 11, 2020 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i think it's kinda like skywriting except it's the party for socialism and liberation printed on the ballot and exposing people to it who wouldn't discover it on a dead gay comedy forum like normal people It's the Leninist view, participation in capitalist elections is for the purpose of propaganda and agitation, not an actual route to political power, at least in an imperialist country. And we do run for lower level offices, one of our best showings lately was comrade Natalie Hrizi's run for California Insurance Commissioner, which was quite important to keeping the PFP on the ballot here.
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indigi posted:what the heck I really thought ANSWER was PSL PSL is one of the more actives forces within the ANSWER Coalition, I think the other guy may be somewhat misinformed.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:world can't wait was the WWP front if i remember right I think that's RCP, though I don't know if they do any work with it anymore, they seem to have gone all in on the Refuse Fascism thing aka James Comey Defense Association
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