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It does not actually stand for Bridges Toucher. edit: Dammit a new page!! My double post joke is ruined!!
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:You didn't, they did not explain what BT stands for yet. CJacobs did cover this in the supplemental video though (without spoiling anything). BB stands for Bridge Baby which they did say, which might imply that BT stands for Bridge T____. Dunno what the T stands for in that case though. Oh drat there's two videos, I missed that
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Apr 27, 2020 11:46
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CJacobs posted:It does not actually stand for Bridges Toucher. It's okay, the joke worked in my heart. 
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Apr 27, 2020 11:57
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The T ttands tor TJacobs.
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Apr 27, 2020 11:57
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Looking forward to watching dead whale simulator 9000!
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Apr 27, 2020 12:12
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BT is the robot from Titanfall. Time Fall? Titanfall reference again. I'm excited to hear CooperJacobs explain this strand-type Jacobs to me.
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Apr 27, 2020 14:17
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Fish Noise posted:The T ttands tor TJacobs. 
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Apr 27, 2020 14:27
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I know the whole "Kojima wants to make movies, not video games" thing is a pretty tired meme at this point, but just look at the opening sequence of this game. Up until you take control of the character, or at least get close enough to see that it's not a real person it really is just about indistinguishable from an actual film at that point, at least in terms of presentation. I actually think this is generally a good thing because nobody is really making games like that right now. It's just...very blatant.
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Apr 27, 2020 16:40
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I feel like a lot of the time Kojima trips over his own auteurial dick, especially in MGSV, which I enjoyed but he went so far up his own rear end stylistically that it started to really clash with the idea of this being like, a game that takes place in an actual historical place and time in something resembling reality. And the gameplay felt very disconnected from the cutscenes. Which isn't to say he's pretentious, he just obviously has a really strong concern for style and story in his games but sometimes I think they don't fit the actual gameplay and in the case of MGS I wonder if his stylistic preferences over time have perhaps outstripped the need to stay within the confines of the setting? Whereas this is so far removed from reality, or at least from the first cutscene it appears to be, that it's actually kinda going the other way. I wrote it on youtube but again here, it feels like a dream. Like the stuff I find annoying in MGSV because it clashes with the gameplay, here looks like it fits the gameplay better, from what little I've seen? Like a game about hiking empty but beautiful landscapes in a surreal world? That fits really well with Kojima's trademark weirdness. Also the game gives me a huge SCP vibe too, like the way it throws you into the middle, the existential horror in the setting, the hazards representing human fears and failings like death and aging and poo poo, it feels like Kojima writing an SCP article in the form of a game. I'm really curious where this goes cos I've had no prior exposure to the game. It might be that a fresh IP and the chance for him to really shove the whole thing way out there into fantasyland might make for a much more coherent experience? It's also giving me big Caves of Qud vibes too, similar dreamlike quality, a world so removed from the familiar but still with people in it. Or like tarkovsky's Stalker. Kojima has definitely seen Stalker hasn't he? Also I'm gonna guess BT is Beach Thing because they mentioned the things from the beach showing up. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Apr 27, 2020 |
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Apr 27, 2020 16:47
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Kibayasu posted:The C stands for cardio. A Let's Play by Cryptobiote Jacobs, known eater of bugs.
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Apr 27, 2020 17:08
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A CryptobioteJacobs a day keeps the LP in play.
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Apr 27, 2020 17:32
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OwlFancier posted:It's also giving me big Caves of Qud vibes too, similar dreamlike quality, a world so removed from the familiar but still with people in it. Or like tarkovsky's Stalker.
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Apr 27, 2020 17:58
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Crane Fist posted:Did I miss when they mentioned what BT stands or do we not know yet? Not going to risk googling it in case it's a massive spoiler or somesuch Black Tar? Considering all this oily sludge. All this could be a long elaborate metaphor how millennials ruined the American car industry and national highway system. Have you seen these Bridges Corpse Disposal trucks? I bet those is electric and emission friendly. (Nah)
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Apr 27, 2020 18:20
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I'm also wondering if the characters are taking their names from the companies they work for? Like that's just a thing you do when you join one.
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Apr 27, 2020 18:23
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So Timefall seems to be weirdly inconsistent, isn't it? Like it ages biological matter by decades in a matter of minutes and even the photograph was aged, but Sam's gear seems completely fine. Obviously it's all made of metal and plastic, but getting caught in a Timefall for even ten minutes seems like it would be the equivalent of a century of neglect which I'm sure would have some impact. Is that mirrored in gameplay latter on?
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Strange Matter posted:So Timefall seems to be weirdly inconsistent, isn't it? Like it ages biological matter by decades in a matter of minutes and even the photograph was aged, but Sam's gear seems completely fine. Obviously it's all made of metal and plastic, but getting caught in a Timefall for even ten minutes seems like it would be the equivalent of a century of neglect which I'm sure would have some impact. Is that mirrored in gameplay latter on? The packages you're carrying do get damaged by the timefall until you get a tarp. I think Sam's gear is implied to be both very resistant and also replaced every time he goes into a base.
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Apr 27, 2020 19:08
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On the topic of gear, I have questions about Fragile's umbrella. Of course she got drenched using that thing.
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Apr 27, 2020 19:21
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I was expecting her to point it in the air and take off like mary poppins. But with jet engine noises.
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Apr 27, 2020 20:01
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OwlFancier posted:I'm also wondering if the characters are taking their names from the companies they work for? Like that's just a thing you do when you join one. LPJacobs (the LP stands for "Let's Play")
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Apr 27, 2020 20:10
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Strange Matter posted:So Timefall seems to be weirdly inconsistent, isn't it? Like it ages biological matter by decades in a matter of minutes and even the photograph was aged, but Sam's gear seems completely fine. Obviously it's all made of metal and plastic, but getting caught in a Timefall for even ten minutes seems like it would be the equivalent of a century of neglect which I'm sure would have some impact. Is that mirrored in gameplay latter on? I mean you'd think even the moss wouldn't be resistant to time changing its appearance, and there was plant matter growing and dying during the BT void event, but the moss didn't change at all while the rain was falling. Plus there's the matter of the buildings and vehicles in the base he was at which also really should be affected, but which didn't need engineers or mechanics all over the place to fix things after the rain. Given everything that happened to make our protagonist immune to death, it's probably best to treat a lot of this as more crazy magic/supernatural than weird sci-fi with explanations that fit our current science perfectly (at least until Kojima tries to explain it later, which hopefully won't happen).
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Apr 27, 2020 20:34
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Theres actually an interesting explanation why buildings/cities arent affected by Timefall but its never mentioned in the cutscenes, you just kinda figure it out if you stumble on it.
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Apr 27, 2020 20:38
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Fedule posted:The popular cliche criticism of Kojima is that he "needs an editor". This is... sort of actually true, but frequently for a meaning of "editor" that's not what the people saying this thing have in mind. I desperately hope this is true for me as well, because I feel like I've just been bludgeoned for 47 straight minutes with a giant sledgehammer with "SYMBOLISM!" written on it. And it pisses me off even more that the cheap, blunt emotional tugs woven in there worked. 
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Apr 27, 2020 21:53
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The 'C' definitely stands for Cryptobiotes. We have found the truth.  Fat Samurai posted:On the topic of gear, I have questions about Fragile's umbrella. Of course she got drenched using that thing. We will learn about Fragile's weird umbrella and ferrofluid shoulderpads! Kojima games are nothing if not thorough about their weird sci fi tech. See nanomachines (, son) et al for infinite examples. Also regarding the timefall being inconsistent about what it melts through, we'll get an explanation for why that is in a few videos' time. Just know that nothing is immune to timefall, but that's not necessarily a bad thing! It just means that technology surrounding the timefall can be focused around longevity instead of immunity. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Apr 27, 2020 |
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Apr 27, 2020 22:07
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OwlFancier posted:Or like tarkovsky's Stalker. CJacobs posted:The 'C' definitely stands for Cryptobiotes. We have found the truth.
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Apr 27, 2020 23:08
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CJacobs posted:We will learn about Fragile's weird umbrella and ferrofluid shoulderpads! Kojima games are nothing if not thorough about their weird sci fi tech. See nanomachines (, son) et al for infinite examples. Will we get an explanation of why just having a hood up protects their faces? That seems to have bothered me the most for some reason.
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Apr 27, 2020 23:46
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Tenebrais posted:Will we get an explanation of why just having a hood up protects their faces? Kojima wants you to see the motion capture v  vBut no I don't think they explain that, because really anything they could come up with would sound silly. Protect your face Norman Reedus it's the only one you got!!
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Apr 28, 2020 00:22
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CJacobs posted:Kojima wants you to see the motion capture v 
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Tenebrais posted:Will we get an explanation of why just having a hood up protects their faces? Norman Reedus ages VERY gracefully.
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Apr 28, 2020 02:00
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Was waiting for this CJacobs LP. That smooth voice talking to me in a super chilled manner about cool games. Awww yeh.
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Well, as one of those few people who has NOT played Death Stranding and only has some vague ideas about the plot, I am quite impressed (and confused as hell, naturally; appreciate the basic intro video). So, just to see if I've got the insanity straight thus far, my understanding is we're in some sort of weird post apocalypse where America is cut off from everybody else yet still somehow able to produce amazing technology (at least the timefall explains the lack of Mad Max apocalypse; War Boys riding in open vehicles would pretty quickly become non-intimidating when they suddenly qualified for AARP in a storm), and given the whole death theme and one of the BTs appearing to be born from a dead guy I'm gonna guess it's some variation on "ghost apocalypse" since the BTs have a definite ghost vibe with the whole handprint thing. Kojima appears to have kept his trademark strange naming conventions since one wonders what psychos would name their daughter Fragile which oh so conveniently matches her having an old person's body (that she can still walk around like a young person with, not to mention a certain lack of, ahem, sag), we have a delivery man named Porter Bridges, the death setting has some sort of weird syndrome called doom (which apparently makes people cry when exposed to dead things which is actually a neat touch honestly) and I expect we'll hear even weirder ones chosen for theme over realism shortly. I gotta admit I'm hoping we get some fill-in shortly as to how anybody survives at all since the demonstrated rules of the setting make it kind of unclear. Do the cities have some way of keeping the BTs from just strolling in that can't be used with couriers? I'd think since apparently they're attracted to sound (human sound, anyway, those deer seemed surprisingly alright apart from doom rain and God only knows how they handle eating) and large clusters of people would have that, any major population group gets flooded with ghost explosions, especially whenever it first popped up since I assume the ghost apocalypse did not come with a survival guide with helpful tips like "rain is REALLY bad now" and "giant ghosts will eat you and blow up unless you kill yourself in time". You'd think it'd be wall to wall booms wiping out too much of humanity to survive in the first few days. And of course rain that ages everything it hits seems incompatible with any sort of tech society, much less one with future tech; cities that didn't blow up would crumble as every part of the buildings started super-decaying, unless all that plastic stuff they're wearing is super nonbiodegradable or something. Maybe that kind of environmentalist nightmare explains all the dead whales and dolphins and such  .Anyway, very strange game and I expect only going to get stranger, but boy you're right about it being pretty as hell in between moments of abject terror (ghost apocalypse is definitely appropriately scary poo poo). I am highly amused that our main gameplay from what I'm spoiled on is going to be delivery man; sure it's obviously a hardcore job in this setting even when you aren't getting randomly recruited into delivering corpses but it's a pretty funny choice for how to interact with the strangeness of this setting. I also gather from what vids I've seen packing all this stuff can quickly turn into entertaining Jenga displays that quickly become slapstick when people apparently aren't quite careful enough walking around and spill everything in existence.
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MadDogMike posted:Kojima appears to have kept his trademark strange naming conventions since one wonders what psychos would name their daughter Fragile which oh so conveniently matches her having an old person's body (that she can still walk around like a young person with, not to mention a certain lack of, ahem, sag), I thought she just had an old person hand? Like the rest of her is normal but her arm got rained on?
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I'm glad to see you folks are approaching it with an open mind, I really like reading posts like MadDogMike's. I think part of the fun of this will be working together to suss out the specifics of the world building, with little pushes by my guiding hand here and there. Maaaannnn this thread is already gettin some real drat good posts
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Crane Fist posted:I thought she just had an old person hand? Like the rest of her is normal but her arm got rained on? "Not much left of me either. Got soaked from neck to toe." So it seems not just the hand and forearm. Future leather spandex just lets you look that young and good.
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OutofSight posted:"Not much left of me either. Got soaked from neck to toe." Oh poo poo, you're completely right. In my defense I was half asleep when I watched the video and CJ has a very soothing voice so I seemed to have missed some important details
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I'm curious what she was doing to get rained on from the head down.
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Apr 28, 2020 08:00
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OwlFancier posted:I'm curious what she was doing to get rained on from the head down. There are no tanning booths in the apocalypse.
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Apr 28, 2020 08:07
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OwlFancier posted:I'm curious what she was doing to get rained on from the head down. a fez
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CJacobs posted:It does not actually stand for Bridges Toucher. This game has some of the best music I've heard in forever.
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CJacobs posted:It does not actually stand for Bridges Toucher. You unlock a certain animation with a bridges toucher
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