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HAmbONE posted:I love the lore and design of Warhammer 40k but shouldn’t the rams on their ships be angled the other way? I know it’s fantasy but the current plow shape would seem to through debris into the cathedrals/bridge. The designers of Battle Fleet Armageddon must agree with you because their plows are symmetrical on the top and bottom. Really though asking why something isn't designed better just is a failure to grok the far future medieval mindset of 40K. It's one of the few pop space opera settings that's actually interested in the idea that its far future humans would see the world in very different terms than moderns. The vessel is an instrument of the emperor's divine retribution made manifest by the toil of a million martyrs and the techno arcane mysteries of the machine cult. To serve aboard her is to fulfill the highest purpose: to deliver the emperor's wrath to his myriad foes and ensure yourself a place at his side in death. At least that's what you're supposed to believe and it's supposed to make up for the years and decades of drudge toil in some machine room or gun deck never seeing sunlight. You can see why rebellion is such a persistent problem. While it's certainly possible that some educated people might question the shape of the prow, it's way WAY beyond the power of all but the mightiest normal humans to cause the toaster cult to reconsider their sacred designs. A major theme of the setting is that the Imperium is much too large and dysfunctional to govern effectively, so the Imperium doing things wrong or stupidly is just a matter of course. Its sheer bloody stubbornness and inertia that hold it all together, not strategy or skill. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Jan 30, 2024 |
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Elukka posted:It makes sense that replicators have their limits because the post-scarcity of the Federation clearly has limits from what we see in the shows. It's strongly post-scarcity when it comes to basic necessities, fairly solidly post-scarcity when it comes to most things people could want, and not at all when it comes to things like starships and industrial replicators. Those are clearly scarce and valuable. Can't just go "Starship, Galaxy-class" to a big enough replicator, because that kind of post-scarcity would break the setting. Or, to paraphrase the TNG Tech Manual on the subject, “If you were powerful enough to replicate a starship at the push of a button… you probably wouldn’t need to.”
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Arglebargle III posted:The designers of Battle Fleet Armageddon must agree with you because their plows are symmetrical on the top and bottom. I actually do understand all this, I just hate it
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MikeJF posted:Also in the original series, there are the Antares type freighters, which pop up a few times: Reminds me of Thunderbird 5 
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I love the space churches. I'm making this gunboat.  You can tell Battlefleet Gothic had some naval history nerds involved from things like a bit about navy reformers getting so mad they turned to Chaos.
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There was a Starfleet ship over on LDS that was a bit of a 40k tribute at one point, with the side profile and arriving by coming out of a swirly purple lightning cloud vortex. https://i.imgur.com/BdRNiYd.mp4 Is it eeevil and from Starfleet's dark side? No, and after some misunderstandings the captain is going to 'maybe paint the ship some friendlier colors, turn on some lights so it isn't so creepy.' MikeJF fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Feb 1, 2024 |
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mllaneza posted:CW: This is still funny, but it's badly dated in women's and trans representation. How the hell have I never heard of this? LOL
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Star Trek Online has played its hand at the style, too. There's an alien race that's effectively a bioweapon designed to look and act like demons from Klingon myth as an instrument of psychological terror, and players have gotten their mitts on most of their ships over the years. And they emit fire in motion. Destroyer type.  Frigate type.  Carrier type.  Heavy carrier type.  Dreadnought type.
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Kar'fi carrier was great because it let you deploy a dozen little polluting space sailboats that all added up to a big statement of gently caress your atmosphere Also it's a lionfish.
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Well don't look at me. My main ship is a 
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Animal-Mother posted:How the hell have I never heard of this? LOL I picked up the DVD set before it went out of print and the price got ridiculous. It was a good show! They did some actual science fictiony stuff. There wasn't an arc but some plots played out over time. I'd say it's worth a watch for retro value.
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mllaneza posted:I picked up the DVD set before it went out of print and the price got ridiculous. It was a good show! They did some actual science fictiony stuff. There wasn't an arc but some plots played out over time. I'd say it's worth a watch for retro value. Same here. I had some super low-def copies I found online prior to that.
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 Anniversary event ship in STO this year is an interesting specimen, a Federation/Dominion hybrid design now that a much less fascist Dominion is part of the Coalition. The Rex class here is specifically in both fluff and art design meant to be a synthesis of the Defiant class and the classic Jem'hadar attack ship.
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Cythereal posted:
Ah, the Rex class, technically full of clone troopers (since Jem'hadar are clones)
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the Tickfiant
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Cythereal posted:
I actually really really love this design. Of the original Defiant I had two main complaints: - There's no real saucer to speak of - It's hard to figure out what bit is warp nacelle; to my mind it practically lacks nacelles This design however has: - a saucer - actual nacelles - yet is still recognizably of the Defiant lineage - kickass
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If you want to see it in more traditional Federation coloration: 
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I don't think I've ever seen an STO ship that wasn't hideous.
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The hybrid ships are always a bit awkward because they're hybrid. For ships that aren't deliberate little gimmicks, I reckon STO has a pretty good batting average these days; I'd say about 30:40:30 'actually good : mediocre : incredibly bad' A lot better than at launch era when it was 0:20:80.
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MikeJF posted:The hybrid ships are always a bit awkward because they're hybrid. For ships that aren't deliberate little gimmicks, I reckon STO has a pretty good batting average these days; I'd say about 30:40:30 'actually good : mediocre : incredibly bad' I still think the Dervish was the one decent looking design in the lot at the time. 
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MikeJF posted:If you want to see it in more traditional Federation coloration: which end is the front?
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The tiny head with two glowing eyes
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Just let the thread die if it’s just going to continued to be only filled with bullshit Star Trek Online trash.
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jeeves posted:Just let the thread die if it’s just going to continued to be only filled with bullshit Star Trek Online trash. Post something then
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MikeJF posted:If you want to see it in more traditional Federation coloration: This angle makes it look like a Nebula-variant of the Galaxy Quest ship
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That Works posted:Post something then  edit - ASCAB: the S stands for "space"
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Space Police were great kits. For a peasant.  
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 I got this one for christmas once and it was an amazing set. I also really digged the Rock Raiders stuff, I still play the game sometimes. Tunnel Transport  The Chrome Chrusher  Another cool christmas present: 
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The Exploriens were as close as we'll ever get to Star Trek Lego, some of the minifigs even have rank pips on their collar. I was lucky enough to get that bigass starship for my birthday in 97 and I have fond memories of it. 
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I got that ship as well, but as cool as it were, Ice Planet-anything still tops it.
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The Striker and Galactic Peacekeeper were the best of the Space Police sets, especially once you threw the cops in the jail cell and let the cool Blacktron dude hijack the ship.  EDIT: I spent some time in stud.io making Blacktron 1 and Classic Space versions of the Peacekeeper. Was going to do M-Tron and Ice Planet as well but never got round to it.  
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Horsebanger posted:
Horsebanger posted:I also really digged the Rock Raiders stuff, I still play the game sometimes. I always wanted the Rock Raiders stuff, especially the Chrome Crusher, but only ever managed to get a Rapid Rider. I played the game so goddamn much. There's a remake of it out if you want better graphics, a level editor, and less crashing: https://baraklava.itch.io/manic-miners
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You forgot to post the part where the model splits apart a-la USS Prometheus, where you get a manned section, an unmanned section, and....space jail.
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They're just gonna leave them in a loving tiny box? In space? It's got bars, there's no atmosphere--he's in a loving spacesuit! Fuckin' jeeves posted:ASCAB
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The only reason I posted the Space Police ship instead of the much cooler Ice Planet 2002 one is that the former is peak "some sort of light grid in the back of this image for MAX AWESOMENESS" Lego classic space marketing.
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The Rock Raiders space connection was always weird to me. If anything it seems like it gives off a vibe like Disney's Atlantis. I wonder if there was meant to be a space connection with Hydronauts/Stingrays/Aquanauts/Aqua Sharks. God knows that the Aqua Sharks would probably have been the coolest ever lego "bad guy" faction for the Space Police to try to lock up. At least until the militarized Space Police 3 started going after alien pimps.  Not that there was much to really tell what a lot of the themes were really supposed to be. I remember Spyrius, which may have been intended to be some kind of space espionage faction, but from the sets released and the promotional images, all I could tell you about them is that they've got a lot of robots.  I have such a strong memory of catalogs being presented with this smiling robot guy. Makes me think they'd be more about like mining or industrial uses.   Lego just kinda got tired of spaceships for a little while, so they did a bunch of ground sci-fi stuff.
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The Spyrius Saucer Centurion was badass, it split down the middle to pull apart a bit so that it could drop a buggy. That said, I had multiple cool space Legos after it, but the Ice Planet Deep Freeze Defender was always and forever the crown jewel of my Lego collection
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Cross post from the lego thread; Decided to finish off another Peacekeeper variant, this time M-Tron 
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