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Yeah kinda bored now

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I made this presentation on the internal configuration of Battlefleet Gothic ships in March 2020 so don't judge me. These are my interpretation of the internal configuration based on what we can see and the design language. Do people agree with this interpretation of what the sculptors and artists were trying to get across?





















This is the right elevation I use for the game of Rogue Trader I'm running. It's not painted correctly for my players' ship (which is white and gold) but I'm not about to redo this.

twistedmentat posted:

I always figured the mystery tubes on Imperial ships were the things that generated the whatevers to open warp portals. But yea, its a weird design aspect the model makers added because its on all Imperial ships. They're not lances because lances are always in turrets on the bigger ships.

twistedmentat posted:

Also, something that always bothers me in ships in sci fi tend to have just one hull. Only a few ships I've seen have more than one. Submarines have always had 2 and space ships should probably be modeled after them more than battleships. They have an exterior and an interior hull. The exterior is your armor, also where you mount weapons and seasons and all that stuff, and the interior has all the important stuff that makes the ship go. The Normandy in Mass Effect has that, you can see it in the loading screen when you take the elevator in 2 and 3, and then the Galactica as well, because as the show goes on you can see the armor plating get torn away during the battles.

twistedmentat posted:

Something Rogue Trader is good at is showing how freaking big imperial ships are. You command a Sword class frigate and its just massive. Yea part of that is just game design but it's not inaccurate to artwork of the interiors of Imperial ships.

Elukka posted:

They're not quite always in turrets. One variant of the Dauntless has an underslung lance on the prow that looks rather a lot like its mystery tubes:



I think, in all likelihood, the mystery tubes are a miscommunication between artists and game designers. My guess is the artists intended them to be weapons but that aspect was either dropped from game rules or was never there. In John Blanche's cover art of a battlecruiser, a mystery tube is shown firing a shot:



For my own tinkerings with 40k spacesips, on my Dauntless model I'm turning the mystery tubes into further lances, and otherwise I think I'd redesign them to look more like sensors or something.

MadDogMike posted:

I always kind of liked this image for driving home the ridiculous scale of ships in 40k:

MadDogMike posted:

I always kind of liked this image for driving home the ridiculous scale of ships in 40k:



(Interestingly enough the Cobra frigate (slightly smaller than a Sword) is about exactly to scale with a Star Destroyer itself. Rather amusing the super-ship of one setting is basically the minor escort ship in another.)

twistedmentat posted:

Also, something that always bothers me in ships in sci fi tend to have just one hull. Only a few ships I've seen have more than one. Submarines have always had 2 and space ships should probably be modeled after them more than battleships. They have an exterior and an interior hull. The exterior is your armor, also where you mount weapons and seasons and all that stuff, and the interior has all the important stuff that makes the ship go. The Normandy in Mass Effect has that, you can see it in the loading screen when you take the elevator in 2 and 3, and then the Galactica as well, because as the show goes on you can see the armor plating get torn away during the battles.

SlothfulCobra posted:

Most ship floorplans will show a significant amount of space between the inner rooms and the outer reaches of the hull, or even depict crawlspace not meant for habitation. But I think terminology-wise, "multiple hulls" is not the way to phrase the separation between interior bulkhead and exterior armor, because usually that's used to refer to like catamaran and outrigger designs that have multiple separate bodies that touch the water.

Arglebargle III posted:

Though to be fair, the Constitution class model was too small to fit the interior sets. And battleships are pretty rare in 40K, some sector fleets might just have one or two.

SlothfulCobra posted:

I always hate the stupidly huge scaling of ships in sci-fi settings, because often it's just a random number thrown on with no real frame of reference, and god knows that the designers usually can't think of enough poo poo to fill even a tenth of the space that the random number implies.

It often amounts to just random dickwaggling about the scale of things, which I guess 40k is a lot more anxious about because of the fact that all of these things are presented as rinky dink tiny models.

MikeJF posted:

Arglebargle III posted:

I was going to say that even the Imperium in 40K wouldn't attempt to build a death star.

Cythereal posted:

Also, most Federation ships from TOS up through Voyager were based on the size and crew capacity of real-world naval vessels. The Enterprise up through the E-D was almost identical to the dimensions of a US Navy aircraft carrier of the appropriate era.

IshmaelZarkov posted:

They've got a number of artificial planetoids on the scale of Death Star 1. Mostly as outer system defense platforms and auger arrays. I believe Port Maw is strictly speaking an artificial planetoid.

They don't move under their own power or kill entire worlds, but otherwise they technically exist.

Javid posted:

In fairness, the sheer size of the death star project affecting supply of various technologies and resources across the galaxy has been a Thing in the pre-OT shows for at least a few years now

Arglebargle III posted:

The Imperium didn't build the planetoid though, they just found it. And because in 40K humanity never met a creepy alien monolith they didn't like, they built an entire sector fleet base on and around it.

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Cross post from the lego thread;
Decided to finish off another Peacekeeper variant, this time M-Tron

Sir DonkeyPunch posted:

Also, Space Police should be black and green

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Space Police I is better than Space Police II

EDIT: I also made an Ice Planet one (The striped door is a nod to the striped garage door on the Deep Freeze Defender.)




Group shot of the different variants.

Elukka posted:

I still love the space cathedrals, here are some ships from Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2, with a funky shader i threw on in Blender. Second one is a kitbash I made from various bits.

Hunter Noventa posted:

That's a good shader, reminds me of the sketches of them in the old BFG tabletop rulebooks.

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Space Police I is better than Space Police II

EDIT: I also made an Ice Planet one (The striped door is a nod to the striped garage door on the Deep Freeze Defender.)




Group shot of the different variants.

tribbledirigible posted:

Please tell me there's a magnet on an arm somewhere on the M-Tron one. It's like their whole shtick.

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

stud.io doesn't have magnet parts

I did try to make the detachable pod look like it does though.

Sir DonkeyPunch posted:

I have concerns about storing a saw with the prison pod