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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Tochiazuma posted:

and the one from 'Heavy Metal'


Guardians of the Galaxy 2 did a nod to this when viewing Ego's ship from the back:


Right before they touch down on Ego directly and everything looks insanely Heavy Metal-inspired (but y'know, with fewer gratuitous tits). The shot lingers directly on the ship, taking advantage of our pareidolia, so I refuse to believe it was a coincidence.

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My favorite ship though is without a doubt the ENT-C.


This beautiful thing. I love the ENT-D's sleek coziness and the ENT-A's Analog-Cool Rectangles, but the ENT-C is the best of both.





Really the worst thing you can say about it is that it doesn't quite feel like a flagship, and I'd agree. It's almost kind-of scrappy, but with that ENT-D soft muscle that makes it seem like something you'd want to live on full-time, not just on a five year mission.


If we're talking "anything's on the table" though, a GSV like this is the pro choice.

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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Squizzle posted:

im a big fan of the ent-c as it appeared on screen, because the “lazy” construction—circles instead of flowy probert curves—really nicely evoke the original and refit enterprise. since the ep the ship appears in relies on the past being out of place, the stronger visual link to the classic series sells that idea, imo, better than a design more similar to the ent-d would
Leaning hard on the bright blue deflector and cherry red nacelles helps sell the bridge to TNG as well. I hadn't seen the original ENT-C art and it honestly does look much better as a conceptual bridge between the B and D, but I do prefer the C's overall look. Plus it's blue. It always bugged me that none of the ships in Star Trek had any color.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

I get that they wanted the Trek ships to look more naval and less like war vessels than Star Wars, BSG, or Flash Gordon... but it does feel like they leaned too hard into greys and whites instead of finding a middle ground with nice blocky stripes and stuff.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Trek ships break along two categories imo-- either "I really like it" or "Yup that sure is a spaceship design." Borg Cube? ENT-D? Romulan Warbird? Klingon Bird of Prey? ENT-Refit/ENT-A? Awesome stuff. Roundabout? Voyager? NX-01? ENT-B/Excelsior? Vulcan ships? Ferengi Ships? Cardassian Ships? ENT-E? "Yup that sure is a spaceship design."

The only ships that really ever entered "lmao wut?" territory were the Scimitar and the Klingon Battlecruiser. The Scimitar because its "dark badass" design is 100% at odds with the premise of its construction (e.g: this was built by former slaves, in secret, on a tiny planet orbiting the center of a giant space empire), and the Klingon Battlecruiser because how did no one see or comment on the stupid sombrero?

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Roth posted:

I've really liked the Brood spaceships from X-Men since I read Claremont's X-Men



They're one of the visual images that stick out to me the most about that period of comics.

I have got to dig more into Claremont's X-Men I did not know the Brood even had ships. Most modern incarnations just have them crash on planets/asteroids/ships in a cocoon or something.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

That thing is 100% a Macross.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Fun fact-- I wanted to know who drew that cover so before I just typed in the magazine info I did a reverse Google Image Search and got the Capitol Building of Georgia:

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Nah gonna have to give dumbest to the Interdictor. I can at least see the outline of the idea with the Defender. The Interdictor is like "well we never cacluate weight onto these anyway so just slap more bomb cannons and be damned how heavy it must be"

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

It definitely reinforces the "order above practicality" vibe they're shooting for with the Alliance. It suits them very well and makes them stand out-- in a bad way-- versus other ships we see. My only problem is that we don't get to see more Core Planet ships in the show itself to contrast it with.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

frogge posted:

Don't get your hopes up. It's been stalled for a long time, though. Like since before the rona hit. Long enough that I suspect the IP was bought just to keep competitors from doing anything with it more than making it themselves.

It's this. There's no way mass media gets on-board with the Culture. Even if you found some madhouse visionary and executives willing to commit, everything about it is prohibitively expensive.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

I mean if you want to get :tinfoil: the hyper-capitalists at Amazon might have bought the rights just to ensure no one could make a message about how loving awesome it would be to live in a world with hyperintelligent AI, transgender-at-will tech, drug glands in your brain, and no need to work. But that's another thread.

On awesome spaceships, Power Rangers has some surprisingly decent ones:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RUpCduhJzY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X894FfDkXs

I love how the first one-- the Astro Megazord-- is actually the HQ for the Rangers complete with living quarters, so it raises some wonderfully dumb :allears: questions about whether or not their poo poo goes flying when it transforms or not. Although yeah, it's kind-of a ripoff of The Defiant:



Then Lost Galaxy had "Terra Venture" which is solid for Kid's First Space Station:



Complete with a biome just for replicating those cheap Japanese countryside filming locations:


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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Squizzle posted:

cursed page now

Holy gently caress you were not kidding.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Holy crap that trailer ruled.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

twistedmentat posted:

Spelljammer was kickin' rad.

Just taking my big giant head for a spin

McSpanky posted:

How the gently caress does this not rate for water landing?

It's literally a library

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

twistedmentat posted:

They make space ships out of ordinary objects.

How else would you make them?

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Megillah Gorilla posted:

My prized "smuggler ship" was a stormtrooper gun which, for some reason, was a translucent green. Hooray for poor 70s quality control, because it was badass as all hell.
I bet if you saved that there's some 50-something tech dude in Texas or California who'd write you a blank check for it.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

All things considered that's a beauty.

Also would gladly watch a 10 part documentary series about the two teams working together-- every part of the teams too, from Engineering to supply-sourcing to PR to construction.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Vernii posted:

Weren't the Klingons behind technologically in most of ST other than cloaking? I got the impression from the series that the only reason they were a serious contender was that their ships were dedicated warships rather than multi-purpose like Starfleet, and even then the best they could achieve was essentially parity. Mostly just wondering what exactly they bring to the table on any sort of collaboration.
They're bringing the "We feel useful and allied with the socialist space hippies instead of bored and chafed by them" diplomacy factor.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Cythereal posted:

STO also posits that Klingon technology is generally less advanced than the Federation, but Klingon military doctrine is far more sophisticated, and that Klingon ships, while lower tech, are also much faster and easier to build and maintain. Federation ship takes a beating? Weeks if not months in drydock. Klingon ship takes a beating? A week, tops, at any outpost.

The Nintendo Game Boys of the Alpha Quadrant.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

SlothfulCobra posted:

It's never really shown, but there shouldn't be any reason why any of the rest of the people in the ship couldn't have their own proper monitors on their own private screens. It's not like that's some kind of level of technology nobody making the movie could've guessed at.
Well you're talking two problems there:

1. Realistic budget-- hauling up aesthetically believable facsimiles of other monitors they can transpose footage onto, which sounds like a lot of production work for fairly little payoff in the final product.

2. People were wildly optimistic about tech advances like space colonies and poo poo in the 20th Century, but no one properly predicted just how fast communications and display tech would leap forward in a 20 year-span. I remember watching TNG and seeing their iPad things and thinking "cool maybe I'll have something like that by the time I'm old enough to be a grandparent" not "this poo poo will be commonplace in my daily life before I'm even done with college."

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

MikeJF posted:

One thing I did like about Picard was that they showed Starfleet PADDs being the same old big thick things with bezels but at the same time civilians use ones that are paper thin and foldable and no bezel and 3D. Implies that the beefy thick PADDs from TNG were just Starfleet having the 24th century version of a toughbook or something.
One of the best things about getting younger people into old Star Trek is seeing them develop the same awed respect and loving mockery of the production and costume design, which managed to be both goofy as sin yet quietly much better than it ever got credit for.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Careful now starting in on NuTrek sucking just means you're a joyless pedant or w/e

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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

That table needs its own Roomba

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