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How many years in the clink do you get for folding a fresh human turd into a ballot? I'm genuinely curious.
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sexpig by night posted:I'll probably vote Green this year, seems like that'd be funny I'd be delighted if my "not voting for any rapists" vote did something productive, so yeah, unless they conjure some morals and get rid of Biden (and replace with someone who hasn't raped anyone, I feel like I need to clarify this in 2020) I'm thinking Green.
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Roland Jones posted:Let's kick this off with a possibly-unexpected development: Trump (kind of?) coming to Biden's defense regarding being a rapist. trump is a perfect troll
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Apr 30, 2020 23:04
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Howie Hawkins and Jesse Venture are both better people and would be better presidents than Joe Biden or Donald Trump
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Jesse Ventura understands kayfabe, has had success running a third party campaign in the past, and has appeal to Joe Rogan independents. I think it's entirely possible he could hit 5%.
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To hell with the entire argument, the time dilation is getting stronger. At this rate we'll never make it to November
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is pepsi ok posted:Jesse Ventura understands kayfabe, has had success running a third party campaign in the past, and has appeal to Joe Rogan independents. I think it's entirely possible he could hit 5%. Ventura will never be sworn in as president, the runner up would simply smash him with a folding chair as he puts his hand on the bible
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Car Hater posted:To hell with the entire argument, the time dilation is getting stronger. At this rate we'll never make it to November God damned Zeno's election. Apparently Biden's going to be on Morning Joe tomorrow to discuss the Tara Reade accusation. Anyone got any thoughts as to how it's going to go? I'm only passingly familiar with Joe Scarborough but I don't think he's going to completely softball it, though I don't expect him to go hard on it either.
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all right let's please use this thread for serious in-depth issue discussion, not driveby shitposts at your posting enemies most important issue of the day: how many rapes does a Democrat get to commit if his opponent is an orange man? obviously at least one duh, but as more women will likely come out during the campaign we need to clarify our pro-woman principles and draw a red line: six? a dozen? one less than Trump? should he get to commit more rapes than Trump since he'll balance it out with good things like better grammar-use on Twitter? what if Trump's makeup gets less orange, does that affect the calculus, maybe less rapes are okay if opponent is less-orange man?
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Gumball Gumption posted:I'm just going to assume he's being clever and knows what he's doing. Thinking your enemy is an idiot is a great way to get surprised by your enemy. Trump, like Boris, has cultivated a very particular image of being a doddering mockable fool, which he has used to disguise his somewhat threadbare but mostly solid strategy that not one of his opponents would ever actually risk enforcing the rules against whatever he or his buddies choose to do. sexpig by night posted:My argument for going into the 2020 election: you shouldn't vote for rapists 100% agreed. Even if Biden's policies were good, and not even one of them is (at very best they're "less bad" which frankly should never be good enough), the rape- doing it, denying it, allowing the hordes to bail on basically every feminist cause- should absolutely disqualify him and show you just how much he actually cares about anyone who isn't him. I'm done being a polite little pragmatist who tries to find the least damaging path forward and I'm sick of the only paths forward being "very damaging" and "somewhat less damaging than the other one under certain circumstances." I made this post in the Primary thread but I think it's still relevant here: Somfin posted:It'd be nice if the Democrats were giving more, but the Democrats are giving absolutely nothing, and Republicans are giving absolutely nothing, and therefore as far as it loving matters the two are the same. It'd be nice to be able to vote for the better person but again, as far as it loving matters, the two are the same. It'd be nice if either party wanted me to vote for them, but the Republicans want nothing to do with socialists, and the Democrats want nothing to do with socialists, so, once again, as far as it loving matters, the two are the same. They don't want to give anything, they don't want to receive my support, and they're both putting forward monsters.
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Who will be the first Biden defender to spuriously argue that he is less harmful than Trump? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Uncle Wemus posted:Is there a good list of third party candidates that can be added to the OP? It’s in there Oh you said a good list of third party candidates not a list of good third party candidates (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:God damned Zeno's election. Are you referring to the interview or the inevitable accosting/groping of an intern/makeup artist? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Gumball Gumption posted:I'm just going to assume he's being clever and knows what he's doing. Thinking your enemy is an idiot is a great way to get surprised by your enemy. Fair enough. Either way, have there been any other high-profile instances of Biden being compared to Trump and Kavanaugh yet? It's common on the Internet, of course, but so far the only "mainstream" things I've seen have been attempts to discredit Reade, without a single comparison between how Democrats are treating Biden versus how they reacted when Republicans were accused, even if only because it's being rebutted. Which isn't too surprising, since they wouldn't want to put that out there and have people start thinking about the connection. Son of Thunderbeast posted:God damned Zeno's election. He's got a history of defending/working with predators, right? I doubt he'll do more than bring it up and accept whatever excuse Biden makes.
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treat posted:Are you referring to the interview or the inevitable accosting/groping of an intern/makeup artist? Kinda hard to do that when he's quarantined in his own house. Though "joe biden is joe biden", so if there's a will, there's a way.
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:God damned Zeno's election. I hope that Joe tells people that are concerned with these allegations to vote for someone else. That would be awesome.
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Anyone know what this means for the convention? Would love to hear from someone with an inside scoop from Bernie's side... https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/495452-biden-and-sanders-reach-deal-on-delegates-to-national-convention
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:God damned Zeno's election. I'm betting he is going to get pressed by Morning Joe, the synapses start to misfire and calls Tara Riede a dog faced pony malarkey bottom
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Vox Nihili posted:Anyone know what this means for the convention? Would love to hear from someone with an inside scoop from Bernie's side... while I disagree with the reading of party rules, this is very very good, it means bernie gets literally hundreds more delegates at the convention and therefore has a lot more pull both directly (in actual votes on things) and indirectly (just sheer numbers of people holding a particular opinion sways other people, because we're social animals) assuming the article is an accurate summation of both the memo and Team Sanders' feelings about it
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So is there any reason to believe Trump's handling of the Coronavirus will matter at election time any more than the generally forgotten Longest Shutdown in History or Hurricane Maria?
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Pleasant Friend posted:So is there any reason to believe Trump's handling of the Coronavirus will matter at election time any more than the generally forgotten Longest Shutdown in History or Hurricane Maria? Maybe? That depends on how "back to normal" things get, and if the economy and unemployment problems manage to actually improve. I'm pretty sure people wont be allowed to forget how he hosed up his response because he'll still be loving up his response when November rolls around
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RBA Starblade posted:Ventura will never be sworn in as president, the runner up would simply smash him with a folding chair as he puts his hand on the bible Why do you think Trump appointed...Linda MCMAAAAAAAAHON?!?!? Pleasant Friend posted:So is there any reason to believe Trump's handling of the Coronavirus will matter at election time any more than the generally forgotten Longest Shutdown in History or Hurricane Maria? Probably to some degree, since it will still be causing very tangible problems for voters. The real question is whether or not the Dems will use it as a cudgel for all its worth, or if they let another crisis go to waste lol jk it's the Dems it's totally option 2.
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Someone get me caught up on Jesse Ventura. I don't remember if he was a good or bad governor. Also, what has he done since?
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Gumball Gumption posted:His art style is samey but he has an excellent ability to cut to the bone. His style is better than most political cartoonists, though that's a low bar. I like him. His style reminds me a lot of Junji Ito with the ugliness turned up, but the horror is sanitized for Western audiences.
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Somfin posted:Trump, like Boris, has cultivated a very particular image of being a doddering mockable fool, which he has used to disguise his somewhat threadbare but mostly solid strategy that not one of his opponents would ever actually risk enforcing the rules against whatever he or his buddies choose to do. I'll give Trump credit only for the show business angle of politics. He knows exactly how to push peoples buttons and feed his base red meat. On the other hand, I don't buy he's somehow different on camera - this is really him! No one wants to believe this but you can make a ton mistakes in life if you've got billions to burn and if you "act" rich people sometimes can't tell the difference. As for him winning the 2016 election it wasn't some decisive victory - it was minor with a whole lot of luck at best. He is an idiot. Somfin posted:It'd be nice if the Democrats were giving more, but the Democrats are giving absolutely nothing, and Republicans are giving absolutely nothing, and therefore as far as it loving matters the two are the same. It'd be nice to be able to vote for the better person but again, as far as it loving matters, the two are the same. It'd be nice if either party wanted me to vote for them, but the Republicans want nothing to do with socialists, and the Democrats want nothing to do with socialists, so, once again, as far as it loving matters, the two are the same. They don't want to give anything, they don't want to receive my support, and they're both putting forward monsters. Your correct in that the United States is so far from other Countries and I agree with entirely! The United States along with our political parties are far from most other places or better yet nearly the entire world. I spent my time in college studying things like rebuilt World War II governments along with quite a bit of time outside the United States so I assure you I do understand that we're freaking weird. I wish the Democrats would have more offer but then again how do explain the majority of left-leaning or progressive movements voting for democrats over anyone else the majority of the time? Freakazoid_ posted:Someone get me caught up on Jesse Ventura. I don't remember if he was a good or bad governor. Also, what has he done since? He sucks. He's turned into a lovely grifter that goes on Fox News and peddles anit-vax lies along with all sorts of other nonsense.
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Meow Tse-tung posted:Whew, there's still time millicent fawcett is puking in her grave
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Is Ventura really running? Before the Tara Reade stuff I was going to suck it up and vote Biden but I don't think I can. I might lie to my dad and say I did if it's going to be close. I don't want Biden to be president. A few of his stated policies would help me but I do not trust him to implement those policies. Oh and also the sexual assault. I will vote for any lame centrist without a sexual assault on record. Cuomo, Harris, whoever. I'm basically captive to the party. But this might be enough to make me not. And once the spell is broken it might stay broken. I'm really hoping the DNC somehow does the only smart and moral thing and finds a way to replace Biden.
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DynamicSloth posted:Relitigation of the primary aside do people actually think Biden is right now, as in today, running a good campaign? I think Biden is running the best campaign he possibly can, which is to say he's staying out of public as much as possible, and letting Jill speak for him as much as possible when he does show up.
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DynamicSloth posted:Relitigation of the primary aside do people actually think Biden is right now, as in today, running a good campaign? Not addressing the Tara Reade allegations directly is a very bad look. loving off and doing nothing while the country dies under Trump is probably smart, though.
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Scientist Al Gore posted:I'll give Trump credit only for the show business angle of politics. He knows exactly how to push peoples buttons and feed his base red meat. On the other hand, I don't buy he's somehow different on camera - this is really him! No one wants to believe this but you can make a ton mistakes in life if you've got billions to burn and if you "act" rich people sometimes can't tell the difference. I'll agree that he's like this in person with some caveats. Narcissists are wildly abusive behind closed doors. Trump constantly gets dunked on and whenever something lands or he's forced to do something that he doesn't want to do, the normal MO for a narcissist is to wait for about three days and then explode into a wild loving rage. I guarantee you that powerful people are constantly screamed at, have had whatever is at hand thrown at them, they're told that they're useless, garbage, incompetent, just this red faced rage until he runs out of breath. Then he stews for hours, even days, exploding at anyone to reestablish his identity. Narcissistic rage that comes from narcissistic injury, IE injury done to a narcissist's identity is well documented and common and they're a serious sight to behold and terrible if you're trapped around them. Being in Trump's sphere of influence, especially those under his power, has to be the most miserable experience. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_rage_and_narcissistic_injury
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