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quote:We’re all working, knocking on doors in the rain or shine, to try to put in place a team that can go into government to improve the country we live in because we love the country we live in. also I bet this guy has absolutely zero questionable opinions related to race or nationality quote:During a video call with people in Bury, there was criticism from one ex-voter who said he had been made to feel his support for the monarchy, Brexit and even waving the union jack was tantamount to racist behaviour.
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 12:53 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 20:39 |
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imagine literally waving a flag lmao
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 12:59 |
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hmmm who knew that people would get so het up about transpeople that they'd circle back round to "it's Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve" https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1255432425976606720?s=20 don't read the replies if you don't want to see a river of unadulterated human excrement
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 14:48 |
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I just got invited to a work pub quiz do I want to spend several hours on webcam drinking with people I have nothing in common with other than work or do I want do literally anything else?? it's a tricky one
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 15:04 |
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https://twitter.com/SteveBakerHW/status/1253717250785325057?s=20 did you know that the lockdown isn't working and is also killing lots of people? evidenced by: - falling COVID infection rates - loads of old people dying in care homes it would be funny if it weren't so stupid bonus points for the "lockdown is solely responsible for the economic damage, a raging pandemic would have had absolutely no impact on people's desire/ability to go to school/work/pubs/restaurants" canard
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 18:06 |
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Bardeh posted:This is doing the rounds on the local FB group: now I hope this country tips over and falls into the sea e: six is potentially a good word for Scrabble, if you can get the X on a double/triple letter square or in two words should I be concerned by how much I'm enjoying beating my friends at internet Scrabble XMNN fucked around with this message at 20:29 on May 1, 2020 |
# ¿ May 1, 2020 20:24 |
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to be fair to him, I think it's the business/tory ghouls that are actually the driving factor. they've been at it full tilt and the media haven't really been giving starmer the oxygen of publicity e: also he explicitly asked for a plan, and this isn't really a plan they're just going to open everything back up while infection rates are still higher than they were when we went in and magically everything will go back to normal because we're bored of lockdown so let's go back to pretending pandemics aren't real XMNN fucked around with this message at 10:42 on May 2, 2020 |
# ¿ May 2, 2020 10:40 |
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think my neighbours are building up to one of those disputes where someone gets stabbed with a pair of hedge trimmers what I've gathered from their recurring shouting matches is that one of them is unhappy about the other building a shed of some sort, and the other is unhappy about them looking in their garden (and possibly taking pictures?) and both of them would like to hit each other and/or get the police involved
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# ¿ May 2, 2020 14:31 |
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https://twitter.com/SmallStonesTall/status/1256603917707874304?s=20 this article is good apparently the official government position on people who are being forced to work in unsafe conditions is "we have some talking points on our website, use them to negotiate with your employer"
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# ¿ May 2, 2020 17:01 |
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lol she's a labour mp, wasnt expecting that
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# ¿ May 2, 2020 17:38 |
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"opposition for opposition's sake" is such a stupid turn of phrase it's embarrassing, it's an easy thing to throw back at you forever when the government wants to pretend it's acting uncontroversially in the national interest and it also implies that it's something you either might do or have done when actually we've always been opposing them because they're evil shitheads who want to do bad things or end up doing them semi-accidentally Just say "we're not in government, we're the opposition and it's our role in this democracy to question the government and hold it to account when it doesn't live up to the standard Britain deserves, which is more important now than ever" or something. You don't even have to say "...because the evil bastards were quite happy to let hundreds of thousands of people die until it looked like it might play badly for them in the press" if you're feeling particularly decorous.
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 22:48 |
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learnincurve posted:If you want a laugh then Andrew Neil has started mildly criticising the government on twitter and all the people with the Union Jack/George cross in their names/pictures are melting down. lol I ended up on boomer twitter and this is certainly a new spin on "the last labour government" https://twitter.com/rodbishop15/status/1256957798627315712?s=20 the replies are also hilarious, just old people going "I remember when I had the Asian flu, it was nineteen dickety two and I was wearing an onion on my belt, as was the style at the time" my favourite one is this though https://twitter.com/RonPoole13/status/1256984142329380864?s=20 what question?
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 00:08 |
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Danger - Octopus! posted:It's OK, extensive surveillance will make sure the I clicked on this yesterday just to lol at the government going all in on the plan to get people back to work because they can't be bothered coming up with a plan to stop people dying, and for some reason I wasn't expecting the surveillance horror in there why do they need biometric data? why do they need photos of IDs? why does this need to go to a private company? will the private company keep this data secure and not use it for their own ends? I mean the answer is obviously a) cost and ease, because this means you can get people to do home tests and you don't have to bother actually setting up any mass testing infrastructure and b) handing a bunch of money and sensitive personal data to a private company is literally the point, but why isn't whoever wrote that article making some sort of comment about it like if it was in China they would definitely be discussing how this will feed into extended state surveillance by the sppoooky Chinese Communist party but they don't even mention that it might be a concern because it's the UK like their only nod to "privacy" is that the receptionist at your work won't know your name or date of birth, but how many people work in a building with a receptionist that doesn't know the people that work there? I'm guessing in big multi-company office buildings in London, e.g. where these cunts are based? quote:Onfido provides identity verification through its online platform. Almost everyone now has a smartphone with a built-in camera[dubious – discuss] and Onfido is able to use this to compare and cross-reference a person's facial biometrics with their identity document, such as driver's license. The person's identification can then be checked against global databases for any issues. It uses manual and automated machine learning technologies, including optical character recognition and face detection, to verify the passport or ID card of an applicant to prevent fraud. Onfido also conducts right to work, PEP and sanctions checks using multiple data sources. sounds like a nice bunch
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 11:15 |
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he didn't respond to that one but someone else posted it too https://twitter.com/RabbiZvi/status/1257253822881247233?s=20 https://twitter.com/RabbiZvi/status/1257255500053385218?s=20 https://twitter.com/RabbiZvi/status/1257264473200566272?s=20 also apparently David Irving actually is bad after all, but only when he does the incredibly clever and not at all transparent poo poo stirring thing where you know everyone hates you so you say positive things about someone to taint them by association https://twitter.com/RabbiZvi/status/1257270042519011328?s=20 it's ok to read his books and put them on your bookshelf like you're proud of them, but if he says he likes you then you're a mega Nazi e: apparently pointing out that Michael Gove, a literal Tory minister who loves hanging, racism and plankton, is a bit right wing is scorched earth extremism https://twitter.com/RabbiZvi/status/1257260651342442496?s=20 XMNN fucked around with this message at 12:38 on May 4, 2020 |
# ¿ May 4, 2020 12:35 |
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if you force water through an ion* selective membrane, the water goes through but the ions don't so you end up with water moving from a higher concentration solution to a lower concentration which is the opposite of normal osmosis e: well, not just ions I suppose, I was mostly thinking about the ones for deionising water in labs XMNN fucked around with this message at 13:55 on May 4, 2020 |
# ¿ May 4, 2020 13:52 |
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baka kaba posted:RLB always said Rayner was to the right of her, their joint run for leader and deputy was meant to be a unity compromise thing to give them broader appeal but she has a regional accent! I hate these people so much https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/04/jennie-formby-resigns-as-labour-party-general-secretary quote:A meeting of the national executive committee will be expected to set a timetable to elect a new general secretary. although now that I think of it maybe this is projection because it's exactly what these bastards would do also love the "I knew about it but I was pushing him to resign, honest guv" bit
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 15:34 |
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https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1257274518286094336?s=20 didn't he ask her to resign? also weirdly worded, it could be inferred that the cause she fought for isn't the same as the cause he fought for e: I mean probably not intentional, it would be a bit more awkward to phrase it like "efforts she has made in advancing the cause we have fought all our lives for" or whatever XMNN fucked around with this message at 15:57 on May 4, 2020 |
# ¿ May 4, 2020 15:53 |
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do labour routinely announce membership numbers? it seems like they were doing so relatively frequently under Corbyn, but I assume that's because they were going up
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 17:37 |
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justcola posted:https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/may/04/cost-of-public-transport-should-be-raised-as-lockdown-ends-ifs like you finish work at 5, can't get the 5.15 home because it's prohibitively expensive, so you get the 6.15 instead, what are you doing for that extra hour? just hanging around the station or wandering the streets? how is that helping keep people home also, you have to pick a price that is prohibitively expensive to enough people without making a bunch of other people who could afford the higher prices decide it's worth hanging around for an hour for the cheaper train, or everyone just gets the later one anyway also also, it's telling how, even having written off actually doing anything (e.g. making the train companies run more trains, rationing train tickets for people who absolutely have to commute to work) as being too much like communism, their instinct is to raise prices for earlier trains rather than lower them for later ones beginning to think the IFS might be a bunch of cunts
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 18:35 |
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CGI Stardust posted:Labour has released the 7 Core Principles by which it will provide good, unifying opposition during the crisis what is the point
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# ¿ May 5, 2020 11:08 |
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like I don't understand who that graphic or the message in general is aimed at. is it labour members? is it the general public? I'm interested in politics and I can barely summon the energy to actually look at it. cut it down to 3 or 4 points max, make them concise and maybe there's a chance people will be able to remember them. As it is, if they ever get mentioned on the news again it will either be as "labour's tests" as a whole without further explanation, or like pistol_pete said as a gotcha question or just make it "the plan must be good, and not bad" because its basically the same thing and will have the same effect (literally nothing) e: Doccykins posted:
lol there's definitely someone with a pathological attraction to bullet points working in labour hq
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# ¿ May 5, 2020 11:56 |
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Who wants to find out why Sir Kier is asking Boris Johnson to build a national consensus on coronavirus? tough poo poo it's behind the times pay wall https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/why-im-asking-boris-johnson-to-build-a-national-consensus-on-coronavirus-ctpqwnht3
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# ¿ May 5, 2020 13:27 |
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peanut- posted:It is four weeks since I was elected leader of the Labour Party. In my acceptance speech I made a commitment to the British people: that I would do my utmost to guide us through these difficult times, to serve all of our communities and to strive for the good of our country. I stand by that commitment. thank you, doesn't actually say much and it's a lot shorter than I expected. He doesn't even really explain his tests, maybe it was printed with a graphic? I was mostly just a bit disappointed at getting linked by several labour mps to an article behind a murdoch pay wall, when surely he must have made a very similar statement somewhere else. Also, what on earth does "that is why... we will support the government later this week when lockdown is reviewed" actually mean? The other things they courageously (loving lol) supported the government on that he cites are things where the government's actual decision is known, i.e. whether we went into lockdown and whether we came out of it, so you could be for or against them. How do they know they're going to support the government's decision later this week when they don't know what it is or why they made it?
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# ¿ May 5, 2020 14:06 |
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pitch a fitness posted:"Right team, we have seven points related to the current public health crisis and need a corresponding seven colours. These seven colours are going to be essential to our message so we should put them on the leaflet twice. lol also turns out they weren't even following the science that they'd attempted to influence Boris Johnson boasted of shaking hands on day Sage warned not to
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# ¿ May 5, 2020 14:59 |
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p sure the only way starmer is going to back ubi is if Johnson announces it first
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# ¿ May 5, 2020 15:27 |
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justcola posted:For some reason I always thought it was just shown in front of a set of swings, never got that that was the frame for it. ew emma barnett and they apparently had galaxy o brian on this week I swear it used to be funny at one point but maybe that was just my child like brain?
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# ¿ May 5, 2020 17:03 |
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winegums posted:I think a lot of that is the razamataz of showbiz. The set, the lighting, the scripted jokes, the editing, the audience laughing at everything. Once that's all stripped away and it's just four 50 year-old men chatting poo poo over discord it becomes far less clever. I don't know if it wasn't funny because it's a tired format with two tired old men and at least one arsehole guest for balance, or if it was just never funny in the first place and I didn't realise because my critical faculties were lacking or maybe it's a bit of both?
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# ¿ May 5, 2020 17:33 |
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Angepain posted:I wonder if part of it is that having the entire internet making the obvious kneejerk snark to every political situation in real time makes it obvious how trite a lot of political humour is. Like, when your only access to a group of dickhead jokesters competing to come up with the best cynical quip to make was for half an hour each week the novelty didn't wear off as quickly. oh yeah the fact it's weekly means everything's old news by the time it airs now Guavanaut posted:I think it was funnier during the Blair years in the same way that David Davis was a voice of reason during the Blair years. Any incidental strengths about mocking governance work a lot better when the government is doing authoritarian surveillance state poo poo and warmongering than not doing anything at all and killing people that way. have a Twitter thread of media personalities mocking people for daring to question THE SCIENCE https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1257621108980842499?s=20
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# ¿ May 5, 2020 18:08 |
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if I drink a beer that's a year past its sell by date am I going to die it looks a bit cloudy if that changes anything
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# ¿ May 5, 2020 19:24 |
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it tastes completely fine surprisingly, will let you know if I die it's from one of those multi packs of mediocre beer that people who don't know what to get you for Christmas always seem to buy. I never get round to drinking them because normally I would go down the shop and get something I actually wanted to drink, but that's way more of a faff than risking death/disappointment by gone off beer right now
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# ¿ May 5, 2020 19:38 |
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OwlFancier posted:I've given a couple of those but I just buy actual beers off the shelf and tie them together with ribbon and then stuff some money in the middle. oh I've got no problem with beer as a present, especially actually nice beer, and I appreciate the thought even if it's mediocre, but I would never normally choose to drink e.g. ruddles and the fact that it's a present doesn't really factor in to that decision
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# ¿ May 5, 2020 20:26 |
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at least they're making them comfortable during their last few hours on this earth and letting them slip off gently into that good night, rather than stuffing them full of tubes in an ITU or leaving them gasping for breath and in pain in their own beds oh wait no, they're doing the last one because drugs are bad mmmkay https://www.rcgp.org.uk/about-us/news/2020/april/rcgp-calls-on-home-secretary-to-urgently-relax-rules-on-controlled-medication.aspx quote:Patients are experiencing 'unnecessary' pain and distress in the last days of their lives during the COVID-19 pandemic due to laws restricting the use of controlled drugs, the Royal College of GPs has warned today.
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# ¿ May 6, 2020 10:57 |
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Matt Hancock says he backs any police action against Neil Ferguson Is this something that is actually remotely actionable or is he just chatting poo poo here?
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# ¿ May 6, 2020 11:57 |
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Jose posted:he's chatting poo poo yeah I looked at the legislation and it's leaving the place where you live that's illegal, not having someone round http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/regulation/6/made app mancock
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# ¿ May 6, 2020 12:14 |
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BBC journo getting salty in the replies https://twitter.com/BBCDanielS/status/1257997289794174979?s=20 https://twitter.com/BBCDanielS/status/1258001125439090688?s=20 am I reading this wrong or is he saying it's no longer important enough to go in the rundown of headlines because it's 12 hours old? also if it's 12 hours old won't this be the first edition of today that could discuss it e: I am not reading it wrong, it had been out for 12 hours and it's not "an exclusive" therefore it is not worth including in the rundown of the most important news of the day at 8 am https://twitter.com/BBCDanielS/status/1258003025538547713 tbf they included it at 6 am when it was still news, andI have to imagine that's when their audience is the biggest it is for the entire broadcast and not e.g. the square root of gently caress all XMNN fucked around with this message at 13:01 on May 6, 2020 |
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:The only interpretation I can think of is that it's the chart's key, indicating that the UK death toll is represented by the red line I think based on the axes that the red line represents the official death toll up to the 4th of May (29,427 announced yesterday would put it over the Italy line) and the circle is the number of people who have died after testing positive by the 5th of May. why those numbers are different, why they haven't drawn the lines up to the 5th, and why it's not better explained in a key or caption, are another set of questions
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# ¿ May 6, 2020 13:31 |
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Personally, I'm really looking forward to going back to working from the office full time in the middle of a pandemic, it will be great to spend all day worrying about catching the loving virus while making other people money but also you still can't do anything fun in the evenings.
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# ¿ May 6, 2020 13:37 |
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Renaissance Robot posted:Because the dot at 32k includes some number of care home deaths, which are not included at any point on the line. If they joined the May 5th dot to the line, it would look like there was a huge overnight spike in deaths, which there wasn't. But they also can't redraw the line to factor in the additional deaths because that would take guesswork on their part, and the line is drawn from official sources. I think that the line includes data for care homes at least in England as it appears to be tracking the data from here, which "includes all deaths previously reported by NHS England, but also includes other deaths of patients who were confirmed cases, whether they died in hospital or elsewhere." after they changed it on the 29th I actually think the title of that chart is very wrong, because the line would seem to include everyone who died after being positive quote:All the deaths data shown on this website are deaths of people who have had a positive test result confirmed by a Public Health or NHS laboratory. it looks like the higher number is a "reuters calculation" of the ONS numbers for England and Wales (which are based on COVID on the death certificate, not tests), plus other figures from Scotland and Northern Ireland, cf bizarrely I cannot find the 29,648 number anywhere. The ONS website has 27,356 deaths in england and wales by the 24th and the download lists 26,013 for england and 1,285 for wales which add up to 27,298?? either way, the number they're using for the circle explicitly goes up to the 24th of April so I have no idea why you would put it as the data point for the 5th of may I'm not sure if I'm being dense or if this genuinely doesn't make sense, and I should probably at least pretend to do some work now also did you know the UK press is the least trusted in europe? e: OK 29.648 is the number of people who died before the 24th of april that were recorded up to the 2nd of may, so I was at least partly just being dense (I was adding up the columns for people who had died before the 24th of april recorded up to the 24th of april) XMNN fucked around with this message at 15:34 on May 6, 2020 |
# ¿ May 6, 2020 15:26 |
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to be fair, the UK is near the bottom on all of the charts in the report so we're generally fairly distrustful, but that is still the highest distrust score for all sources listed and by far the worst for traditional media 44% trust and 43% distrust radio 37% trust and 55% distrust TV 19% trust and 67% distrust "the internet" 11% trust and 72% distrust social media you have to sign up to the ebu to download the report for some reason https://www.ebu.ch/publications/research/login_only/report/trust-in-media do I get to be a eurovision judge now?
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For what it's worth, it looks like the data came from this Eurobarometer survey and the question was "I would like to ask you a question about how much trust you have in certain media and institutions. For each of the following media and institutions, please tell me if you tend to trust it or tend not to trust it" e: google says boris is 1.75 m which is 5'7.5" but it also says trump is 1.9 m which is 6'2'' and now I don't know whether I can trust the internet anymore e2: I think it's 5.75' actually, for some reason Google has not implemented feet and inches and now I definitely don't trust the internet XMNN fucked around with this message at 16:56 on May 6, 2020 |
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