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Hadlock posted:Probably should have taken my own loving advice Yeah, it's always easy to say this afterwards isn't it? I was always able to point out my own strategy mistakes in review. I didn't really put in the work to think through the strategy stuff on the water at the time; i'd just stick some warpaint on and fistfight my way up through nearby boats tactically.
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Sadly there's no sense of volume here so you can't force people to starboard tack Ok so I was at 150, this morning I was at 122, I am now down to #111, looks like I am about 5:45 behind first place at this point You can start to see geographic features of Hawaii in the bottom left corner, the vast majority of the fleet is hanging out south of the rhumb line; I am mostly just gybing reciprocal angles as is everyone else. About 600 miles left to go, couple days before landfall yet.  edit: I'm being informed by another goon that I'm not  enough on the UI
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Hadlock posted:edit: I'm being informed by another goon that I'm not Is that the polar chart superimposed on your boat? That's pretty nifty.
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Jul 10, 2020 12:43
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I realize it's a race and all, but I just noticed that huge cluster and thought how annoying it must be to do an open ocean crossing like that to get away from it all. Instead you are in a traffic jam like it's a Los Angeles freeway.
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Hdip posted:I realize it's a race and all, but I just noticed that huge cluster and thought how annoying it must be to do an open ocean crossing like that to get away from it all. Instead you are in a traffic jam like it's a Los Angeles freeway. Yeah, you're constantly covering your competitors, it's nervous and tiring stuff — you can't mentally get away from other people for the hours/days/weeks when you race. This reminds me about the first Golden Globe race, which if you're not familiar with it is a riveting story: quote:Nine sailors started the race, four retired before leaving the Atlantic Ocean. This is a good book about the whole thing: A Voyage for Madmen meltie fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Jul 11, 2020 |
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Jul 10, 2020 18:57
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meltie posted:This reminds me about the first Golden Globe race, which if you're not familiar with it is a riveting story: It's such an insane story. The Strange Last Voyage of Donald Crowhurst really focuses on him and his trip, and the journalists who wrote it got their hands on his logbooks and do some good work trying to figure out what happened.
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ought ten posted:It's such an insane story. The Strange Last Voyage of Donald Crowhurst really focuses on him and his trip, and the journalists who wrote it got their hands on his logbooks and do some good work trying to figure out what happened. It's absolutely crazy. The cursed remains of the boat beached itself on a island in the Caymans.
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Jul 11, 2020 01:59
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If you're on the edge never gybe back through the fleet! "Can't win by following."
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Slowly clawing my way back up the rankings last day here, #100 currently http://www.sailonline.org/breezy/run/1371/ Apparently you can login as guest/guest to spectate meltie posted:Bernard Moitessier, who rejected the philosophy behind a commercialised competition, abandoned the race while in a strong position to win and kept sailing non-stop until he reached Tahiti after circling the globe one and a half times We did an overnight, two day ocean race, it was pretty grim, overcast with 4-5 kts the whole way there and back. And then, just as we're going under the golden gate bridge, suddenly the skies open up, sun is shining, it's 75F and suddenly we're on a broad reach in 28kts of sustained wind, headed for the southern tip of angel island doing well over 12 kts boat speed, throwing sheets of green water to either side, pulling the bow out of the water. Really turned the whole trip around for us. Rather than gybe to head to the finish in front of st Francis 20 minutes south of us, we decided to abandon the race and enjoy 5 miles of blissful surfing. No regrets.
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Hey sailboat weirdo goons. Some people over in what used to be Take A Hike The Take A Hike subforum is currently kind of dead so we’re doing what amounts to a relaunch. It was in DIY which is kind of bizarre. It’s basically getting turned back into an RSF for a bit and I’m going to do a bunch of drumming up attention for it. The basic idea behind the new forum is going to be outdoors stuff. Hiking, fishing, hunting, camping, all that kind of good stuff. Here's the moved forum, bumped to be top level for the time being like all RSFs are. I suspect it will find a new home besides DIY in the future, since it was always kind of a weird fit as a sub there. The new name of the forum is The Great Outdoors. Anyways forums live or die by having specialist, niche threads. A lot of other subs have outdoors-y threads that are general purpose subject chat things which is good and fine. We don’t need to fill the forum with ten different camping/chat threads with different crews. TFR can have a video game thread even though Games is a forum, for example, because a general chat thread for gun nerds to talk about what they're playing today can't replicate the dozens upon dozens of unique threads that delve much deeper into specific subjects that a dedicated Games forum has. So, we are going to need some threads on the sort of niche outdoorsy poo poo that an actually goony outdoors forum would talk about. So if any of you ever wanted to have an OP of a thread about what hiking boots are good or how to make your own fishing lures or UrbEx or what the gently caress ever here’s your chance. A general boat thread makes since in AI, but maybe some of you really want to start a thread talking about kayaks or something? I dunno, boats are an outdoor activity which is about where I'm at with this right now. I've already started what amounts to a soft launch of the reinvigorated forum. It's now a top level forum and we'll see where it goes from there. We've press ganged a couple of current mods into keeping an eye on it and, in true RSF fashion, if it takes off again we'll pull some people as mods from within that community.
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If anyone else has an opinion on this, please feel free to make an OP and link, maybe we should just do a general sailboat thread instead? There's Nautical Insanity, too, not trying to stratify things too much. I'm swamped today so I won't be able to do an OP. Anywho here's 2x CC99s going at it last weekend in a very uncharacteristic for July 5-12kts (we won) :coolbert:  Work continues on ripping the rotten core out of the J24. What was going to be a month long project has revealed more damage than we had hoped and we'll be lucky to have her in the water for Frostbite at this rate. I was going to post a picture but its like 72 hours and hundreds of posts back in our group chat and I'm not scrolling that far. Basically, everything within 3 feet of the mast is trash and its bad. Drilled holes in the rudder and we're going to let it drain for 6 months and hope it doesn't split on us for another season or two because we really don't feel like spending 1600 bucks of program funds on a new one.
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Actually, I'll cop to being the one who recommended it. I know more than a few times, people have expressed surprise on finding a general boating thread in AI, much less discussion on sailboats and sailboat racing. I know we try to have AI as a much more encompassing forum, but its still largely seen as a car forum and therefore not many people would think to look for a boating thread here. Much less a sailboat racing thread. They don't even have V8s man! Anyways, I personally feel that while this thread has a home in either forum (and I'm perfectly happy to have ya'll stay here if you want), the thread has a better chance to grow and get more sailing buddies in the outdoors forum. And we all know that boating is more fun with friends! (especially if they own the boat.  )And there are a couple of options available if ya'll want to move. I can move this thread wholesail (See what I did there!?!  ), it can be recreated over in TGO or we can have a thread in each place even if ya'll want!
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I like it being here in AI, but that's just me. Don't really want to just sail away, maybe we could knot move??
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Should either go here, or in SAS At the end of some regattas there's a raft up. I've only ever done one regatta where we anchored out. Regattas are mostly about prepping the vehicle, tuning various parameters to the Nth degree, maintenance, tactics, rules/rule loopholes/rule violations etc... shares more in common with auto racing than camping. The other thread is for barbequing on a pontoon boat at lake wobegon or whatever. edit: boating thread in TGO   sailboat racing thread in AI  
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Jul 18, 2020 04:19
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If you sail off into new waters is entirely up to the thread and I'm happy to keep ya'll anchored in AI if you want. The TOG suggestion is more about getting exposure from a very cool little community that cropped up. This thread would still be focused entirely on sailboat racing even if it moved. I'm happy that the boat thread I started years ago helped give a start to this group and want to see it keep growing. I may prefer motorized boats to wind powered boats, but its been fun to read about ya'lls adventures anyways.  (Though one day maybe I can swap to an electric boat. That would be awesome.) EDIT: Alright, a general boating adventure thread is now up in The Great Outdoors: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3933144 This thread will be staying in AI and I find it super awesome you wanted to hang out here with us still.
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Jul 18, 2020 04:39
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That tactician needs to already have his protest flag in hand cause uh that's not proper course. TP52 super series 
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Crunchy Black posted:. Got my shitbox up to 5.5 sustained today, feeling pretty good
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Karma Comedian posted:Got my shitbox up to 5.5 sustained today, feeling pretty good As long as you're not cruising 
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Prepping boat to do Drakes Bay 1-2 at the end of August Basically you start from a yacht club (A), I think it's CYC in Tiburon, pray the tide is going out that morning, and then ride the conveyor belt of tide out and under the golden gate bridge, try and not hit any whales, round one of the channel markers and head north past bolinas bay, avoid a 20 foot rocky shoal that fishermen like to drive around on, and then finally arrive at Drakes Bay, which is one of the few natural protected anchorages on the west coast. Find some boating buddies, raft up with everyone, and make some warm stew, drink rum and play cards. Anchored out, basically in the open ocean, overnight. The next day, you start in Drakes Bay (B), and then it's (or should be) a downwind cruise under the golden gate bridge and back to CYC. I want to say each leg is 22-30 miles, so it's a nice day long sail in both directions, really nice as the crew can experiment a little bit with sail trim and really get things dialed in. Obviously the shortest path is the rhumb line, but there are a bunch of holes where it's just dead calm along the coast, so you have to know how far to go out for wind, but not go out so far you lose out to people who stayed closer to shore and took a more direct route. I guess that's 90% of the strategy for all coastal races. Last time we did this, in uh, 2019 maybe? We saw a bunch of whales, waterspouts etc, was a good time. 
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Anyone else doing the inshore Verve in Chicago this weekend?
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Ugh cancelled on my two most BFF* for ocean racing *Minus the guy who was my best man at my wedding, but BFFs who show up for sailing, amitrite Edit: should mention I had child #1 recently
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Trip report: Thistle Nationals Hey, that's us up front and on the website!  No trailer issues there or back from Atlanta to Cleveland so that's nice  Measurement committee wants your inspection ports to not just be covered by lots of sail tape, who knew, so emergency repair job to measure in--thank satan West Marine had enough new ones in stock  Erie can be an angry bitch Swag was very nice Their triangle courses are a welcome change of pace from W-Ls since I don't get to do much offshore these days Only scheduling one or two races a day and making it an actual race *week* is very nice--means everyone parties pretty hard, and some folks have been to every event in the last 40 years. Don't ever race one of these infernal things without the greatest invention since the vang; I only had to take it off on the day it wasn't blowing and was 90*. https://www.zhik.com/kollition-microfleece-skiff.html A multiple time Olympian came in 5th in gold. lol. Next up: Doing some Thistle races on 2 different boats in the south atlantic circuit this year J24 Southeastern series enough to try and qual/write in for Worlds 22 in Texas Have a ride on a J105 for Charleston Race Week 22 because gently caress the circle 3 race committee for the idiotically unsafe and close to the channel races they ran on the last day last year. My J24 can stay in fresh water and not go on the miserable 5 hour ride to chucktown, thanks.
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Crunchy Black posted:Their triangle courses are a welcome change of pace from W-Ls since I don't get to do much offshore these days W-L courses can get so hosed, I'm bored to tears with them; I think that's one reason why it's so hard to find crew anymore.
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Hadlock posted:Ugh cancelled on my two most BFF* for ocean racing Follow up, there was no wind, would have been a poo poo weekend to go Karma got me though, sea lion had diarrhea all over the port side of my boat, was so ugly the marina staff had to pressure wash it off due to complaints
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Hadlock posted:Karma got me though, sea lion had diarrhea all over the port side of my boat, was so ugly the marina staff had to pressure wash it off due to complaints Thank you for reminding me that freshwater annoyances are rather minor Went and un-storm-tied the J90 last night, we didn't even see anything above 20kts out of Ida; had to pump 10 gallons out of the J24 though, "sinks on the trailer."
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Currently doing a week's Yachtmaster Theory school and this afternoon our instructor regaled us with a story of winning a race (something like the annual UK first responder's yacht club race) by two hours by very careful reading and application of tips in a book called something like how to make your boat go faster. Lots of getting every sheet set just so and then positioning everyone precisely so that weight was distributed properly, so that when one guy went to make down below to make tea someone else had to move slightly backwards and to port to keep things even. Anyway the guy is an extremely old and salty sea dog who has told other stories that are definitely bullshit but I do wonder if such a book exists - something that goes through every part of sail setting and trim etc etc with a view to maximum efficiency. Any ideas?
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occluded posted:Currently doing a week's Yachtmaster Theory school and this afternoon our instructor regaled us with a story of winning a race (something like the annual UK first responder's yacht club race) by two hours by very careful reading and application of tips in a book called something like how to make your boat go faster. Lots of getting every sheet set just so and then positioning everyone precisely so that weight was distributed properly, so that when one guy went to make down below to make tea someone else had to move slightly backwards and to port to keep things even. I can believe it. I've won races in light winds by getting the crew to stop fidgeting around and shaking the wind out of the sails. Also, training them in-situ how to set their sails properly for maximum efficiency using the telltales... meltie fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Sep 24, 2021 |
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What is the competitive sailing scene like, uh, south of Norfolk VA, and uh, north of Savannah, GA Zooming way way out all I see between those two points are Charleston SC, Wilmington NC and Myrtle Beach. Myrtle Beach has no marina, and the marina scene in Charleston looks pretty dire. Wilmington looks like they have more than eight sailboats. I see a bunch of shallow water marinas but they look like they all mostly service offshore 40' sport fishing boats Steven Colbert has a house in Charleston and once did the Newport Bermuda race, is all I know What do y'all race around? Ocean buoys? At least in Galveston we had oil rigs to use as course markers
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Hadlock posted:Picking up sails from the garage for a regatta, a couple years ago, living the gratuitous DINK + no mortgage fantasy life. Turns out you can fit a main, a jib and spinnaker in your girlfriend's 2 seater if you're brave enough I once fit a fridge in a miata but my garage didn't look like that... 😲
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Hadlock posted:What is the competitive sailing scene like, uh, south of Norfolk VA, and uh, north of Savannah, GA Yep, that's about it. Savannah sucks because it's a shallow river. Wilmington has racing but its mostly dinghies I think. When the first batch of Wetas came into the states, I delivered a few up to the Duck Island area. In Charleston we do windward-leewards around temporaries and some local nav markers inside the harbor and long distances up and down the coast. Main areas are Charleston Harbor Marina [left red circle] (where the yacht club is) and Patriot's Point [right red circle] (aka where the Aircraft Carrier is) Both of these are perfectly serviceable marinas but I'm sure they're pricey and probably waitlisted to hell and back. I'm not a local, but its basically the closest ocean racing I can get to so I have a lot of friends out there and the C&C99 I was a partner in used to live at Patriot's Point. The jetties leading out [green] force you to share the channel with commercial traffic and are not really ones that you want to chance it over, so typically we only go out if we're *really* going out. There's a circle at CRW for cruisy offshorers that goes out past the jetties to a mark and back and that's typically a 3ish hour race. The only other thing you have to look out for is Schute's folly, smaller green square. Otherwise, other than a sometimes RIPPING current, both the Ashley and Cooper are perfectly sailable. Really easy place to get 5 horned with the increase in commercial traffic. Commercial port in black. I think there were close to 10 boats that ended up having a talking to by the coast guard this year during RW alone.  occluded posted:
This should be your bible, then. 30 years old and still the definitive resource. https://www.amazon.com/Sailing-Smar...3609716&sr=8-26 Crunchy Black fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Oct 7, 2021 |
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