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I'd went back and forth about making a thread discussing the Jericho Cruise after I first got back because I think my experience ended up being quite different from the regular one. There was also just the things I'd learn privately that I didn't know if I should share or not despite this being a very dead internet forum that is merely a scheme to boost Lowtax's spine fund. It's been like 5 months now and I think all the interactions and relationships have since fizzled for a variety of reasons so I feel a bit more comfortable sharing the experience. It will likely be random bullet points from what I still remember. I'm also trying to keep names and people slightly more generic. I apologise if this is too long or rambling too. Before the cruise (Tokyo Trip) - Late December/early January was an incredibly exciting time for me, I think I've mentioned to people before I live in South Korea and so far I've been very lucky and my work vacations always line up with at least Wrestle Kingdom so I've been really lucky to go to every Wrestle Kingdom since the first Kenny/Okada match. I spent three weeks travelling from Osaka to Tokyo during the holiday period this year, meeting up with my brother and a friend of work to go see Wrestle Kingdom and a bunch of smaller shows - Met Kevin Kelly at a bar late night just before Wrestle Kingdom, he was having a good time and told my friend "If commentary is poo poo tomorrow, blame her" pointing to friend at his table buying him drinks. He must handle his drinks well because he seemed perfectly fine the next day. - I really recommend anyone who is ever on the fence about making a WK to go for it. There's so many shows going on at Korakuen from different promotions on the lead up that you can see something different every day. I'd also highly recommend the DDT/BJW New Years' Eve show if it goes ahead again, that's just a fun night counting down to the new year with wrestling fans and fun matches. I've also met some really cool people during my travels too, including people from WrestlingPunchSportIslandPagoda2K. - I went back to work for two weeks only to fly out to... The Cruise (General Notes): - I was jetlagged as hell the entire time (it was something like a 24 hour total travel time from SK to Miami), so I missed a lot of the late night (post-11pm) entertainment. This meant I typically missed a completely hammered Jericho moshing it at the front of the bands playing, sometimes by himself. - I was meeting a friend and his wife there to enjoy the cruise. His wife wasn't really very much into wrestling but had started to watch some AEW with him, including going to Fight for the Fallen I believe, so she knew some of the wrestlers. - Having someone who doesn't know who the wrestlers are and therefore just strikes up conversations with anyone can work to your advantage. First Day (Probably a normal cruise experience day): - You board on the cruise into one of the main bar areas, so it's packed as people wait for their friends to board, etc. and enjoy a beverage while they wait. I think most people paid extra for the unlimited beverage package and wanted to take full advantage of it to give you a feel for the overall atmosphere. I drink for sure but I'm a more reserved guy and very British in that way so it was sometimes a little jarring. I'm sure this wouldn't be a problem for most. - We done a quick tour of the cruise and when you first board it seems massive with theatres, hot tubs and a pool, multiple bars and restaurants, a large buffet area, outdoor basketball court and of course the wrestling ring and band stage set up in the main pool deck. - After the tour we sat down at a quiet bar just down from the main one at the entrance which only had a few people. We grabbed a chair at the bar and the man sitting next to us turned out to be Eric Bischoff. He was pretty friendly, chatted on how he ended up on the cruise, how this was his first ever cruise and he was making GBS threads it a bit in terms of cabin fever and confinement. He seemed to be at that spot at the bar (or the casino bar) quite often but as the cruise went on, had big "leave me the gently caress alone" energy of intently staring at his phone with his head down the rest of the time. - First lunch at the buffet, we were at the table next to Meltzer and Alvarez, didn't want to bother them though because they were eating and the finished up before us. - Fozzy is a fun live act, they played multiple times and I was surprised how into it I was. The first set of course finished off with Judas which had everyone singing along. - Normally the wrestling shows would go about 1hr - 1hr 30 each day but that'd have one sort of early afternoon/late evening and one around 9/10pm. Tons of AEW talent, Moxley, Sammy, The Bucks, Kenny, Private Party, SCU tended to be on most shows. Can't remember many matches at this point but everything was punchy and fun. - Everyone is sharing the cruise, so although there was a VIP area for the wrestlers to hide out in many of them would be out and about at the gym, spa, buffet, casino. They always seemed cool with people saying hello apart from in two circumstances - don't bother them on their way to the gym or from the gym, don't bother them when they are eating. Saw a frustrated Sharmell going off at people trying to get pictures with Booker T when he was returning from the gym. - Wrestlers seemed to be at the casino pretty often as it was a quieter spot on the cruise, particularly when things were happening on the main stage on the pool deck. - Went to the live nWo podcast with Jericho, Bischoff, Scott Hall, DDP and Booker T. It was fun but later in the night so people already smashed were at the point of just yelling poo poo all the time, which made the podcast awkward at times. - While the nWo podcast was going on, my friend's wife went to the casino. The TVs on the cruise just showed old Dynamites so she was arguing with someone about the height of Marco Stunt, she turned around to bring the person next to her into the conversation. This person was Luchasaurus. They started chatting and she made friends with his girlfriend at the time, they exchanged contact details but I don't think anyone expected anything out of this other than a nice gesture. - The person I was sharing a cabin with I'd got to know online for a few months before the trip, more of a party guy than me. Threw up between our beds on the first night which wasn't great for my jetlag recovery as I "noped" out of the cabin around 5am. - My friend's wife booked for us to have a photo with Ric Flair, which was cool. He seemed dead. Day 2 (I need sleep and also it gets weird): - I was exhausted from lack of proper sleep and didn't feel like disembarking when the ship reached Nassau. I'd also been to a lot of nice beach/tourist heavy places in SE Asia so it didn't hold the same wonder for me as some people. I decided to book a massage and some time at the spa as it was slightly discounted on days where the ship was docked. Bit pricey but I was on full "gently caress it, it's my vacation" mode so decided to indulge. - The trip experience changes at this point, my friends had managed to grab a table at the bar for the Dynamite taping and as I sat down next to them, they introduced me to their new friend who had been hanging out with them - Luchasaurus' girlfriend. Turns out she'd been privy to a lot of the booking because it's basically all happening in the cruise VIP room. Hangman/Kenny come out for their tag title challenge and she turns around to me to tell me they're going to win the belts. I think I learned about the entire show just before it happened in this way. - This is where we also learned about the "lonely" Jake Hager story (he'd also hit on Luchasaurus' gf as well as Tony Khan's from what I was told. Khan's girlfriends response was "maybe you should ask your boss first".) I thought it might be exaggerated as fun gossip but I had the sense it was true after a day 3 run in with Jake Hager. - This was also the first time I learned that Nyla Rose and MJF are lovely irl. Well, you can normal see that in Nyla's tweets these days but apparently MJF was having a tougher time on the cruise because he felt he had to be in character the entire time. This is what I was told anyway. - My bed was vomit free night 2 so that was a plus. - I think it was at this point I learned that the wrestlers' would typically party to all hours in Jericho's suite but the only thing it contained was straight tequila and Cheetos. That was the entire sustenance up there. Day 3 (I am mostly asleep, slightly regretted): - I'd been pulling it together most of my time on the cruise with exhaustion but the clock finally ran out about lunchtime on the 3rd day. - Got up for breakfast and decided to do the morning Bingo session as a way to pass the time. I believe this was also our day for a photo with Jericho. I was a cringe inducing twat during this photo, thankfully to an audience of only me and him as my friends had went around the corner after the picture. They had a chart with where everyone had flown in from and I'd commented that I didn't see South Korea on the map. Jericho said no one had flown in from SK. I said I had. He said I didn't look Korean. This will likely be the only time I interact with Jericho. My body still cringes over this interaction to this day. I also imagine he was hungover and the poor guy had hundreds of photos to take per day. All the meet and greet photos were included on the cruise apart from the Ric Flair one. - We'd been hanging out with Luchasaurus' girlfriend at the casino and she was heading over to the spa to join my friend's wife for a session my friend's wife had booked. On the way to the spa, we ran into Jake Hager. He lit up in delight at seeing Lucha's gf and proclaimed "I'M SO LONELY" and went for the hug. I will never forget this interaction, it is burned into my memory. This made the interaction with Hager and her a bit more awkward as he was very talkative to her and then seemed incredibly cold when he turned to say hello to my friend and me. - I went back to the spa to relax in the hot tub, Private Party were there pretending to do moves that would slam each other into the massive hot tub. They seemed like they were having a great time in general. - My friend's wife and Lucha's gf seemed to be striking up an actual cruise friendship and she was trying to arrange a group dinner for us all to hang out. This is where Lucha (and reportedly others) started being dickish. We were told that THE BOYS were upset that Lucha's gf was hanging out with "a bunch of marks" on the cruise, rather than spending time in the VIP lounge and that we were clearly not interesting in being friends, we just wanted to meet the wrestlers. This very much sucked as we were just enjoying each others company and hanging out on the cruise and it felt a bit like we were getting looked down upon just because we'd struck up a friendship with someone. - It felt all the more lovely because my friend's wife is not a wrestling fan at all and was just looking to make friends on the cruise she could hang out with. - We were never told who was making the comments but I'd have to imagine Luchasaurus and Hager were two for sure. - My friend sat down to play a few hands of Blackjack at the casino, MJF sat down next to him while I watched for a bit (I'm not really a casino guy). MJF was doing some courting of a lady and I think was playing the act of a man who has never played Blackjack or performed counting in his life. He pretended to be unable to do basic Maths as he turned to the girl to ask her for advice and what to do next, he was really putting it on thick, doing the moves. I think I was told this was DDP's daughter. - My friend was doing well at Blackjack and being a great person, I turned around and said "you're on a hot streak". He stared me down and asked why I would say such a thing while he was still playing. I replied that it was because I was a terrible friend and a bad person. This got a small chuckle out of MJF. I consider this a life victory. - There might be some truth to The Elite guys not being on the best of terms rumours that occasionally float around Twitter. It sounded like Cody was doing most of the business and work side of things and that The Bucks weren't really talking to anyone apart from each other and their family during the cruise(again though, I only have this second hand, possibly even third) - The only time I saw Kenny outside of shows was early in the morning on Day 3. He looked banged up as all hell, the poor guy. - I went back to my room late afternoon for a nap which turned into sleep for 12 hours instead. Still kicking myself on this one as my friend and his wife ended up hanging out backstage for late night karaoke with a ton of the talent. Apparently Nyla Rose was very much in "mom mode" and kept asking my friend is he was too hot in his sweater. My friend and Moxley also requested the same song for karaoke around the same time - The Bad Touch. Understandably, my friend deferred to Mox on this. Day 4 (Cheating the system, Luchasaurus) - We'd been told a few days into it that the talent weren't getting any extra pay for the cruise but their cabin was covered (something about being honoured they were hand picked by Jericho for the cruise). They didn't get any drinks package though. With your drinks package when you went to the bar, you could get two drinks at a time. This led to Jake Hager (which I saw in person), Hangman Page and Britt Baker (who I didn't see do it, but am told did) venture out from the VIP area, take a snap with a fan, get a drink from them and venture back into the VIP area. I'm sure they weren't the only ones and I'm certain those fans were more than happy to do it, just struck me as funny. - This was our day for meet and greet photos. The way it worked is there would be four talents or groups taking photos for an hour or so at the same time. You lined up in one room and took the coloured ticket of who you wanted to meet (The Elite, Jurassic Express, MJF and AEW's Women's Roster) was the first session. That last one sadly had the exact line you would think it did. We were taking group photos of me and my two friends and only really wanted one photo, so I took a ticket for The Elite and my friend took one for MJF. The Elite were friendly and had a long line it was a quick snap and then move on, still cool though. MJF however was being an absolutely amazing monster to anyone who took photos with him. Sometimes he'd hang his head down texting, completely ignoring people. One guy brought a replica title (can't remember what belt it was), MJF shoved the guy of the way and posed with the belt. He then tossed the belt out of the queue. The guy went to pick up the belt and get a photo but was told by security his session was finished. This did not seem to bother the guy at all. - When it came to our photo with MJF, my friend's wife didn't want to be in the photo so she stood off to the side. Our photo is now us standing at his side while he sits in a chair, death glaring my friend's wife off camera. - When session two rolled around we realised we were actually meant to collect a ticket per person but may have done the same thing in terms of splitting our tickets. I mean our rationale was the same, we were saving time because we didn't want three separate photos, just one group photo. This session had Cody, Moxley, SCU and Hangman. We split our tickets again for Cody and Moxley. Moxley showed up late, barrelling down to where the photos where, wearing the same clothes from the night before yelling "WHAT loving TIME IS IT?" so that was a treat. He was cool to take a quick photo with. - Cody was really nice, took time to have a quick chat with everyone, really showed he's got that positive corporate side to him but it help make the experience all cooler. - When we finished with Cody, the SCU line was short and they were offering the tickets at the start of the line so we got an SCU snap too. Also cool guys who chatted for a bit. - The Hangman line started to get too long just as we finished with SCU sadly. - Got to meet Luchasaurus in the casino on the last day, had a bit of a chat with him it was just a general life chat, I think he distrusted me because I am a Maths teacher and numbers aren't real. He was a slots guy, as was his gf. The Bucks were there at the same time and seemed to spend ours sitting on a bench together playing the coin pusher machine in the casino. It was an adorable image of two brothers enjoying some quality bench time. Day 5(I get kicked out of my own hotel room): - We start to disembark from the cruise and head over to the hotel that me and my friends had booked near to airport. I was flying out at ridiculous o'clock (4am? 5am? something like that). - My friends wife gets a message from Luchasaurus' gf that she isn't hanging out with the wrestlers at the airport (I think they'd had the fight over the realness of numbers during the night) and she was booked on a way later flight than the talent anyway. She asked if she could hang out with us at our hotel, so we went to the airport and picked her up. - On the taxi back to the hotel, my friend's wife asked if they actually had anyone booked to be The Exalted One at that point (back in early January). We got asked if we wanted to know who it was, and we couldn't resist. Got told it was Brody Lee back then. We were also told that they were planning to get the belt of Riho in a few weeks time for a heel run, at that time it was between Britt and Nyla apparently. I truly felt like a scoopsman that day, told a few friends but felt like it would be a break of trust to try and launch a scoops career out of a genuine cruise friendship. - Lucha's gf needed a nap, so my friends let her snooze in their room. We moved over to my room. - My friend's wife needed a nap, so we gave her my room. - I ended up kicked out of my own room. - We all had food at McDonalds, headed back to the hotel and said general goodbyes as everyone went their own way. One thing I would say is the cruise is a great experience and it seems like there's tons to do but you can hit a bit of wrestling fatigue by day 4 and that's when you suddenly realise if you're not heading to a bar to drink or the casino, there isn't that much else to do. It's probably just around the right amount of time for an event like this. Fozzy freshened up their set every night with covers and themes and the drunker Jericho got throughout the cruise, the more entertaining the Fozzy shows ended up being. There's a couple of other gossipy things I learned that I still feel uncomfortable sharing. There's probably things I've forgot to that if I remember I will share. Certainly a unique week in my life. I think if you were there for the normal cruise experience and you were a massive AEW fan, it'd be an absolutely awesome time. Mine was slightly marred by a few peaks behind the curtain that made things feel a bit messier than what you'd see just experience the day to day. I appreciated this probably seemed a bit scattered, I was trying my best to remember anything worth sharing and on what day it happened. I hope this was interesting enough and I'll do my best to answer any questions people ask too. Also I don't think she's his gf anymore and that's something very messy I don't have any of the details of. I know she was early 20s though, so there was a big ole age gap. Edit: I tidied this up a bit after re-reading with fresh eyes Raeg fucked around with this message at 08:33 on May 18, 2020 |
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An excellent read, thank you very much! All your MJF bits just make me love that bastard more. Luchasaurus is terrible. Cool to hear they’d planned Brodie Lee to be the Exalted One all the way back then. And absolutely don’t share anything you don’t feel comfortable sharing! a cyborg mug fucked around with this message at 06:03 on May 18, 2020 |
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May 18, 2020 06:01
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Honestly as someone who is a drunken mess in a party situation and also gambles too much, I think I may have to go next year. This sounds like an amazing clusterfuck. But there is absolutely no one else who would go with me. Aside from party boy vomiting in your room, how awkward was it to share a room with a stranger? May have to see if a goon wants to share a room with me for the next one, if I promise to at least make it to the toilet to puke.
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StarkRavingMad posted:Honestly as someone who is a drunken mess in a party situation and also gambles too much, I think I may have to go next year. This sounds like an amazing clusterfuck. But there is absolutely no one else who would go with me. Aside from party boy vomiting in your room, how awkward was it to share a room with a stranger? It wasn't actually that bad after night 1. I mean you've got a common interest in wrestling, so there's things to chat about when you're both about. He was a late night guy and I was always exhausted due to the jetlag so we'd tend to be sleeping at different hours. I'd normally be asleep when he rolled in at night, and I'd be awake and out of the room in the morning before him. We did a few things together but he had his own interests so it was cool just to do our own thing during the day. Probably the most awkward it got with trying to move around and shower quietly in the morning because I didn't want to wake him when I went off to do things in the early morning.
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If you are thinking about going this year - I still get updates about the one in Feb 2021 (no way I can make it this time), sounds like to entice people post-CoVID, the drinks packages are free this year.
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Raeg posted:If you are thinking about going this year - I still get updates about the one in Feb 2021 (no way I can make it this time), sounds like to entice people post-CoVID, the drinks packages are free this year. Oh poo poo now I’m in for sure
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Raeg posted:If you are thinking about going this year - I still get updates about the one in Feb 2021 (no way I can make it this time), sounds like to entice people post-CoVID, the drinks packages are free this year. I was dead set on going next year but barring a vaccine or a death wish I am not getting my rear end on a ship. I had signed up for the updates and was rationing vacation time (mine rolls over in March) but alas it was not meant to be.
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MassRafTer posted:I was dead set on going next year but barring a vaccine or a death wish I am not getting my rear end on a ship. I had signed up for the updates and was rationing vacation time (mine rolls over in March) but alas it was not meant to be. That's the risk, you have to be real careful on catching illness on cruises at the best of time, never mind now. You always got a sanitiser spray every time you entered the buffet example.
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May 18, 2020 06:47
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lmao, these are great, MJF sounds like a born carny
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Oh, one thing I forgot - Moxley wore an eye patch the ENTIRE cruise. Even just out and about socialising he was still selling it.
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May 18, 2020 07:01
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this was a good tale. Thank
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That was a great read, thanks for sharing your experiences! MJF sounds amazing but yeah that must have been exhausting staying in character the entire time. Also, here is my face learning Jake Hager is an even bigger piece of poo poo than I thought 
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Jerusalem posted:That was a great read, thanks for sharing your experiences! Thanks for (I assume) fixing up the tag! Yeah it's not that any of it was surprising but amazing to actually see in action.
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Raeg posted:Thanks for (I assume) fixing up the tag! Yep, it seemed appropriate, let me know if you want it be something else 
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Jerusalem posted:Yep, it seemed appropriate, let me know if you want it be something else Should've made it "SHIP POST"
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May 18, 2020 09:12
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It's good to know that MJF remains the best.
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May 18, 2020 09:20
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luchasaurus left his young Scientologist gf not long after this cruise and took the dog. dude sucks
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Raeg posted:Oh, one thing I forgot - Moxley wore an eye patch the ENTIRE cruise. Even just out and about socialising he was still selling it. Legend
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Paper Lion posted:luchasaurus left his young Scientologist gf not long after this cruise and took the dog. dude sucks Yeah this was related to the more private stuff I didn't think was relevant. None of it seemed great.
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May 18, 2020 10:18
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This post is gonna get us taken off payroll
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May 18, 2020 12:18
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Due to concussions I literally can't do math outside basic addition and subtraction and whatever multiplication tables I learned rote as a kid. Numbers aren't real and never will be to me and fortunately all my math teachers were filthy liars as I have a calculator in my pocket 24/7 nowadays.
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May 18, 2020 12:40
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Luchasaurus account found! I have trouble with any of my colleagues still using that old calculator line in this day and age.
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May 18, 2020 12:42
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Great read cruise sounds about right for one involving wrestling some cool dudes and some carny fuckers. MJF being cool fits the eternal narrative that heels are IRL the nicest people.
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Raeg posted:Luchasaurus account found! Lemme tell ya it's a real lifesaver when you can't even calculate tips lmao. My boyfriend keeps explaining it as like moving decimals but my brain's just like "hahaha absolutely not" and welp. Now I have an app for that! Thanks for biting the bullet on this one as I was intensely curious about the whole affair. Would you say the overall cost was worth the experience you had?
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It was to me, I'd had it in my head that it was a once in a lifetime experience. The cruise is pretty costly but if you have people to share with looks like it can be quite a fair price. I probably ended up paying more for the flight from Korea to Miami than the cruise itself in the end. It was also a chance to meet people I'd known for years but never actually met in person. It's a unique experience and you are surrounded by a boat full of wrestling fans. Some will be loud and obnoxious but others will be cool. There's always something going on whether its podcasts, bingo, karaoke, wrestling. The Dynamite taping had such awesome energy live too. It was my first ever cruise experience too and we had a room with a balcony so just sitting outside in good weather enjoying the view can be cool. They give free gifts most days - there was a Little Bit of the Bubbly, a foam finger, a luggage tag and I think one other thing I'm forgetting. I'd recommend doing it once for sure, you'd likely see if it was something you'd like to repeat after that. I probably would if I could have enough time before boarding to recover from jetlag and I think I'd aim to just experience the event as is as opposed to the weird world I got pulled into for a few days. It's incredibly unique and definitely a worthwhile trip for an AEW fan.
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Luchasaurus Luchasucks
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good read, thx bro
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Reading this was a great way to start my week, thanks for this.
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May 18, 2020 13:42
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Crazy good read.
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May 18, 2020 13:57
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I want to go on the Jericruise now.
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May 18, 2020 13:59
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I had a lot of similar experiences on the JoCo cruise the year I went except with semi-famous podcasters instead of semi-famous wrestlers. Jericho cruise sounds like a really good party.
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I choose to believe that Kenny spent all his downtime on the Jericho cruise icing his injuries and playing video games because cruises arn't really his thing.
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There was a Smash tournament he was hosting so you're probably not wrong. Oh god, I just remembered the Ric Flair impersonation contest as judged by Ric Flair. I wish I didn't but I did.
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May 18, 2020 15:36
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Imagine ever considering a cruise again after The Roni.
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That sounds like a blast and that was a hell of a read I'm also reminded of a great line, I think from Lou Holtz of all people, who said "being on a cruise is just like being in jail, except you can also drown"
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DJExile posted:That sounds like a blast and that was a hell of a read he clearly never heard of riker's island and prison barges
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How were the autograph sessions booked? Were they well organized? I was on the first cruise and they were a gigantic clusterfuck. You had people waiting three hours in line, only to be turned away at the door because time was up.
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Raeg posted:Yeah this was related to the more private stuff I didn't think was relevant. None of it seemed great. lion shamelessly stole this information from me lmao. my gf (not a mark) knows S***** and i met her once at a nightclub. definitely seems like the type to attract simps like hager. luchasaurus is an alum of my university also lol. fucken wrestlers.
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in my experience when people roll out the "well people are saying" and its all a bunch of negative poo poo, its usually just that person and they don't have the fuckin stones to admit it.
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This was amazing. Let's all plan to go to one of these and meet up and DEFINITELY NOT CRY when the wrestlers call us marks. Because I definitely would not cry.
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