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well-read undead posted:i liked 3 a lot because it did a pretty great job of bringing that wasteland wandering feeling into a first person game i liked the tree guy
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rotor posted:i lit the tree guy 
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PokeJoe posted:1 and 2 do a better job of having people actually move on from the war imo. the Bethesda ones are more "remember fallout???" esque yeah, it is a bit tiresome trope, one tons of games get themselves into. in reality it'd be a pretty shockingly short time into an apocalypse before people stopped talking much about it (e.g. finding new ambitions for themselves) though it is true that unless your writing is real compelling it is best to keep focused on the central conceits of the plot.
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PokeJoe posted:3 has the big problem of all the underground areas looking exactly the same and all the people leaving skeletons in their front yard for 200 years if we've learned anything from these past few years, the unrealistic thing is those skeletons aren't bigger and seasonally flexible PokeJoe posted:Harold is from earlier fallout if u think about it the games should be called Harold 1, 2, 3, and (unfortunately) brotherhood of steel
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PokeJoe posted:1 and 2 do a better job of having people actually move on from the war imo. the Bethesda ones are more "remember fallout???" esque being set in america i can easily believe that people would be hung up on a war from 100~200 years ago
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Bethesda Fallouts are B movies, which isn't a bad thing.
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PokeJoe posted:1 and 2 do a better job of having people actually move on from the war imo. the Bethesda ones are more "remember fallout???" esque Yeah this is a good point, looking back Vault City was founded like 10 years after the war and was a modern city, Shady Sands too by Fallout 2. Even the shanty towns in fallouts 1 and 2 used scraps of wood and tin roofs Meanwhile the modern game's aesthetic is "whoa we scraped together all this junk that inexplicably survived for 200 years instead of someone at some point chopping up some wood and making a real wall". Filly in the show has 3 space shuttle hulls serving as roofs, you can't tell me it was easier to artfully arrange 3 space shuttles for your roof than it'd be to salvage some wood boards at any point in the last 200 years. But whatever we finished the show tonight and it was fun
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rotor posted:fallout NV is good but like Dave Foleys voice just pulled me RIGHT OUT of the game and into a Kids in the Hall sketch, very jarring. Of 3, NV & 4 idk which i like best. if anything it convinced me that fallout is just one big kith sketch. dave foley was amazing as yes man
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ADINSX posted:you can't tell me it was easier to artfully arrange 3 space shuttles for your roof than it'd be to salvage some wood boards at any point in the last 200 years Yeah that's something that has always bothered me about Fallout too. It's like people just forgot that you can patch holes and sweep up. It's been ten fuckin generations since the war and people are still using rotten 200 year old mattresses and the door to their house is still a chunk of a road sign? That aesthetic might work if it was like five or ten years after the bombs. After 200 years every trace of the prewar society should be gone and replaced.
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psiox posted:if anything it convinced me that fallout is just one big kith sketch. dave foley was amazing as yes man https://youtu.be/w7ApuaJrtck?si=JgpdgVcyY641EBYA
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reminder that portingkit is another fallout new vegas vector provided you have it on steam and want to play on macos. which reminds me, i should get back to it soon also with the above you can basically enjoy any windows steam game on modern macos while you’re at it, though fidelity varies
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it’s awesome that this exists, but it is deeply humorous to me that to play this game in tyool2024 you have to install like 30 mods to fix the broken piece of poo poo Bethesda is still selling
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starfield is somewhat amusing through the lens of gamebryo
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Branch Nvidian posted:it’s awesome that this exists, but it is deeply humorous to me that to play this game in tyool2024 you have to install like 30 mods to fix the broken piece of poo poo Bethesda is still selling is there any bethesda game that isn't like this
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:is there any bethesda game that isn't like this honestly no, which also raises the question why bethesda has been allowed to release so many games in such awful states without facing significant enough backlash to stop doing it
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it’ll always be funny to me that fo4 copied the general main plot layout from new vegas (find and deal with the dude who wronged you in the intro. then, choose one of the main factions and deal with the others) but gutted literally everything that made it feel creative and fun
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jesus WEP posted:it’ll always be funny to me that fo4 copied the general main plot layout from new vegas (find and deal with the dude who wronged you in the intro. then, choose one of the main factions and deal with the others) but gutted literally everything that made it feel creative and fun even if fo4 had kept all that stuff, it still wouldn't have been as good simply because the guy who wronged you in the intro wasn't matthew perry putting a bullet in your skull
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i had a very hard time caring about any of the characters in 4, to be perfectly honest. i felt somewhat invested in new vegas
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the biggest issue i had with fo4's story was, unlike new vegas, the crux of the main story is trying to get your kid back instead of simply getting revenge on a guy, yet you still get constantly sidetracked with pointless bullshit "oh, you want to find the man who kidnapped your baby son? well here's a base building simulator and why don't you help build up the minutemen first?"
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Branch Nvidian posted:it’s awesome that this exists, but it is deeply humorous to me that to play this game in tyool2024 you have to install like 30 mods to fix the broken piece of poo poo Bethesda is still selling games that "require" you to install mods to fix them are not worth spending your time on. gamers will never learn it tho
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dioxazine posted:they're genuinely unplayable without modding, so sometimes i wonder what the ESO population is eso is fine. also not a bethesda game lol.
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Branch Nvidian posted:the biggest issue i had with fo4's story was, unlike new vegas, the crux of the main story is trying to get your kid back instead of simply getting revenge on a guy, yet you still get constantly sidetracked with pointless bullshit ur not wrong but you could say the same about BotW which was - i think we all agree - a good game
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rotor posted:ur not wrong but you could say the same about BotW which was - i think we all agree - a good game
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yeah fo4 immediately lost me with the kid plot me, 2 minutes out of cryo: "shaun who? hey look a gun"
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dioxazine posted:you didn't even get a dedicated shaun button like heavy rain https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/23198
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well-read undead posted:god i had actually forgotten about their extremely bad choice to voice the protagonist in fo4 Yes Yes No Yes (derogatory)
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well-read undead posted:god i had actually forgotten about their extremely bad choice to voice the protagonist in fo4 Stephen Russell should basically have done everything. nick valentine was the only part of fallout 4 that has stuck with me as likable. also by using an older version of mod manager 2 (due to new versions having [temporary?] incompatibilities with proton), i have successfully gone through that Viva New Vegas guide and now have a very nice setup for NV on my steam deck 
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dioxazine posted:i had a very hard time caring about any of the characters in 4, to be perfectly honest. i felt somewhat invested in new vegas there aren't any characters in any bethesda games. at best there are some basic archetypes played completely straight that hang around on screen long enough for you to remember them; most of the time they're just set dressing. new vegas was made by obsidian iirc so it's not as bad in this regard.
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psiox posted:Stephen Russell should basically have done everything. nick valentine was the only part of fallout 4 that has stuck with me as likable. i found the noir detective schtick instantly tiring, let alone the whole "synth living peaceably in a human settlement" aspect Truman Peyote posted:new vegas was made by obsidian iirc so it's not as bad in this regard. new vegas characters (companions particularly) are legit good. thinking about the time my wife cleared the legion base hopped up on psycho and jet, then turned to cass who was immediately like "are you loving high right now??" not that there isn't something extremely charming about chasing your dad, liam neeson, across the wasteland as he repeatedly grumbles "i didn't want to have to do this" and chases down an unaware yao guai with a baseball bat
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new Vegas is fun like fallout should be. it has the right amount of silliness
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