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RatHat posted:The Official English version is much better translated this week God I wish Viz's viewer didn't suck so bad, it can't zoom for poo poo. Anyway great chapter I love that the new guy is apparently like Frieren (and Ubel kinda) in that he can just figure out spells and counter them by looking at it and puzzling them out. Also he says that the ropes are steel because it seems like he's figured Ubel out too. Love how they've pretty much set up their escape too. Ropes are meant to be cut, after all... Squidster posted:Wild speculation: we know Frieren lost to Macht several hundred years ago, so I wonder if she was working with the Holy Wands back then. She might have been the only survivor, and the Empire is still big mad about it. Alternately, since now that we know the Empire has multiple black ops secret squads (only 2 even rumored, hell, maybe more!), maybe all the Holy Wands went rogue at some point and the empire decided to off them. That would explain why Frieren was on that kill list, she's just the last one. TwoPair fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Apr 17, 2024 |
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Oh, hey this might be relevant: the Viz app is now available in the UK, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand. Check it out if you can
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yum posted:just get hitched already!!! They are basically canon at this point. 
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Jerkface posted:Thats not really the point. Its not that theres an elf in the secret groups photo its that the same emblem Frieren has is an emblem of the secret group. She was part of the group ergo secret mage CIA TwoPair posted:Alternately, since now that we know the Empire has multiple black ops secret squads (only 2 even rumored, hell, maybe more!), maybe all the Holy Wands went rogue at some point and the empire decided to off them. That would explain why Frieren was on that kill list, she's just the last one. Yeah I'm betting it's this: Mister Olympus posted:while it's very likely that the nature and purpose of the holy wand society has changed over the years since frieren was active in it, it's definitely setting up for her membership to be relevant Comedy option:  E: I swapped in her most powerful attack  
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some of these are just inexplicable at least frieren is eating well edit: Here's what happens if you eliminate ballot-stuffers. Frieren and... mimic... does a lot better. 
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mimic at 10, gently caress the ballot stuffers no goddamn taste
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Seriously, what the gently caress is the deal with Aura? Second place? What?
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Is #6 the demon who could copy martial arts that Stark fought?
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RatHat posted:Is #6 the demon who could copy martial arts that Stark fought? Yeah Also good to see Macht and Solitair still charting highly despite not being in the anime yet
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RatHat posted:Is #6 the demon who could copy martial arts that Stark fought? yeah. idk how the hell she beat out solitar and macht himmel beating ubel is also some bullshit. who the heck is voting for shonen hero dot jpeg over psychopath murderer but in a kinda hot way girl
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Lt. Lizard posted:Seriously, what the gently caress is the deal with Aura? Second place? What? Memes
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Qtotonibudinibudet posted:himmel beating ubel is also some bullshit. who the heck is voting for shonen hero dot jpeg over psychopath murderer but in a kinda hot way girl himmel believed in his feelings for frieren so deeply he was able to fight a demon while trapped in an illusion of their happy ending. he deserves the #1 slot and I’m glad the fujoshi got him there
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Agronox posted:edit: Here's what happens if you eliminate ballot-stuffers. Frieren and... mimic... does a lot better. Oh ok, eliminate the meme vote spammers and you got a sane list. Cool
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panko posted:himmel believed in his feelings for frieren so deeply he was able to fight a demon while trapped in an illusion of their happy ending. he deserves the #1 slot and I’m glad the fujoshi got him there I’m a bit confused as to how that was from the fujo vote
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You can uh....stop setting up any time you want, plot. Already looks to get plenty messy as is.
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Sense gonna throw hands. Hairs. Whatever. The panel with her and her hair spoiling for a fight was hilarious.
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Casually introducing a troupe of 20 assassins?????? NOW???? what is this Frieren x Frieren?
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So there are three sides here, right? The first-class mages, the special forces of magic, and the shadow warriors?
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Sindai posted:So there are three sides here, right? The first-class mages, the special forces of magic, and these undercover assassins? We don't know how closely the special forces and the shadow warriors are, they might very well be the same.
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Jerkface posted:Casually introducing a troupe of 20 assassins?????? NOW???? what is this Frieren x Frieren? damnit, i got beaten to the "so we phantom troupe arcin now?" also MORE EARS
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Sindai posted:So there are three sides here, right? The first-class mages, the special forces of magic, and the shadow warriors? Presumably. Also, remember development magic chat from the anime thread? Well now we see non-mages casting magic.
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Some real John Wick, every world class assassin has a fake mundane job, energy from that sequence. My expectations are now increasing dangerously.
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E. Revenant posted:Some real John Wick, every world class assassin has a fake mundane job, energy from that sequence. My expectations are now increasing dangerously. I was more imagining the scene in Hot Fuzz when everybody starts pulling out weapons. Yours is more on point though lol
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E. Revenant posted:Some real John Wick, every world class assassin has a fake mundane job, energy from that sequence. My expectations are now increasing dangerously. Power ranking the new assassins based purely on vibes 1. Schritt - the sword looks cool, drunk barfly is the best cover job, and we love tight leather pants don't we folks 2. Routine - Sleepy Librarian with bed head, lets loving go, kill someone with a book 3. Lore - Went back and forth on the nun assassin cliche but in the end, its good. 4. Walross - Is this a Denken-esque old man, or a dwarf? Who knows, but Vagrant is also a great john wick cover 5. Iris - Poster Girl seems like a fake job but she is cute 6. Wolf - Bartender is a top tier profession but I hate his hair cut 7. Gazelle - Sociopath little kid flea market salesman, fine 8. Klematis - I hate his face Official ranking btw
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ninjoatse.cx posted:Cobbler Synonym Arkwright Womblem
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ninjoatse.cx posted:Arkwright Womblem Eggler Dobie
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Please let Schritt not be a jobber, for Himmel’s sake! Extra thank yous if it’s a Stark fight so we can see what warrior/mage hybrids are capable of against single-class builds. And then see Stark rock her poo poo anyway.
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This is a hell of a build-up, especially for Frieren.  I suspect special forces of magic and shadow warriors are cooperating. Both, because of Frieren's talk of how the true enemy is the Empire itself, and because it's Série they are gunning for. There ain't no way someone sane would look at Série and go "I can take her" while there is an unaligned third group running around. Sense hair shadowboxing was extremely cute. Sense rules.
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It really is a lot of buildup. I just reread from the village of the shadow warriors to date to refresh the context and it is amazing to me how effortless the mangaka tells the story. It just seems to flow really smoothly from yet another Frieren misadventure due to how the world has changed over her life, peeling back the world to show us some of the secret weird poo poo going on in the background and that Frieren is in fact involved while simultaneously showing us that the shadow warriors are a real threat, then immediately escalating the conspiracy to what we're seeing now while incorporating a lot of other characters and factions in the intrigue. The economy of paneling with which we see the shadow warriors developing peaceful lives in that village in like half a chapter is pretty incredible, and I assume takes an insane effort. As far as the story, having just reread, a few observations: - the shadow warrior cells are confirmed unaware of each other or the old guy in the village is just a previous generation, because he thought he was the last one and we see the shadow warriors are clearly part of an active conspiracy. This was kinda intuitive but still, I hadn't picked up that it was explicit. - we see the silhouette of Lowe and another, shorter character that hasn't appeared in the panel about people that can visualize the death of Serie, I'm curious to see who the other one is - I was really not expecting the amount of assassins but it makes sense, given their goals. I can believe that a group that large could kill Serie, although at the same time given the high level illusion magic we've seen I'm going to be surprised if there isn't some kind of magical tomfoolery where she buys time by making the assassination appear sucessful despite surviving with some sort of fakeout. - we don't know why the mage police are around and their presence was unpredicted in Linear's report, even though Sense brushes over this fact. The suggestion is that there are players whom they are unaware of, or someone is manipulating the information the Continental Association is receiving, and I'm still leaning towards something happening with the mage whose name literally means "False"... - at the same time there are still seeds for future plot threads. Sense mentions the mage police are spread thin and don't have the resources to just randomly station people here, they're usually policing the border. If we learn that they loosened their control of the border for the conspiracy in this arc, the next arc might deal with the repercussions, and we're still waiting for the other shoe to drop with a lot of demon stuff we saw in the past - we see some sparkles around Ubel that seem to have something to do with the mage's weirdness, which he appears to keep in a tiny glass bottle that he puts away after the fight. I'm not sure what this will end up being. My thoughts were either that the lag Ubel noticed was because the guy was only directing his partner's magic with some crazy coordination tech, or the sparkles allowed him to channel his magic somehow to take Ubel's senses away. Tosk fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Apr 24, 2024 |
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I like how, amid all the bustle and intrigue of the Zoo Family assassins gathering and whatnot, the descriptions of the Empire indicate this is still fundamentally grounded in the conflict between Serie's and Flamme/Frieren's respective outlooks. The two panels where Serie contemplates the flower-creation magic are significant; ever since Frieren shut her down she's been more aware of the cracks in her worldview. On the other hand, the Empire is showing that she may not have been entirely wrong in her skepticism; while hoarding magic for the use of Great Men can make normal folk subordinate to their whims, democratizing a chaotic power might lead ambitious people to consolidate control or exert influence in other ways, like the Empire's seemingly endless supply of grim Eastern Bloc-styled secret police forces, assassins guilds, and so on. At root, though, I suspect the actual beef they have with Serie is less philosophical (though that is the overarching theme of the series itself), but more practical: the last dungeon has been conquered, what other ways can a magic-based "empire" expand? At this point, it mainly appears to be Serie, squatting like a dragon on a historically massive wealth of magical knowledge, including the sort of "everyday magic" spells the Empire has come to depend on. There's almost certainly something to the fact that Lowe claims to be a governor of the northernmost (i.e. closest to demon territory) Imperial province, but I'd hate for this to be wholly a demon plot. usenet celeb 1992 fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Apr 24, 2024 |
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Tosk posted:
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GloomMouse posted:Sense really growing on me. Love how pacifist Sense is immediately ready to throw She hasn't killed anyone, but it doesn't mean she's not ready to beat a motherfucker up.
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