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twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author


This is the Space Thread.

Talk about outer space, other planets, evidence of UFO’s leaked by the military, pulsars, "yeah we could build a Dyson sphere but who's gonna pay for it?", the Space Force, which alien race you would rather be abducted by, the heat death of the universe, the space race, the best way to terraform Mars, soviet attempts to colonize the moon, that weird freeze-dried ice cream, vacuum toilets, that astronaut who drove across the country in a diaper to murder someone, those deeds to acres of martian land that people give as birthday gifts, asteroid mining, Space X, etc., etc.

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twoday has issued a correction as of 12:51 on May 28, 2020

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twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
So yesterday there was supposed to be a launch and even Trump was there, but it got canceled because of the weather. Check out those suits:

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1265835205115498496?s=19

https://twitter.com/Politidope/status/1265736427339501568?s=19

https://twitter.com/Astro_Doug/status/1265843262943825921?s=19

https://twitter.com/MoNscience/status/1265955750939156480?s=19

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
https://youtu.be/BVn1oQL9sWg

Dad, are you space?

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

why don’t we see evidence of other alien civilizations

it’s wierd

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
Space Force

Eox
Jun 20, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

euphronius posted:

why don’t we see evidence of other alien civilizations

it’s wierd

you don't

wolfs
Jul 17, 2001

posted by squid gang

will musk’s rocket fail horribly saturday? maybe!

that’s just how 2020 works

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

euphronius posted:

why don’t we see evidence of other alien civilizations

it’s wierd

Well, when stars die they go supernova, and that sends out a giant explosion of radioactive death all around it. That happens in the Milky Way once about every 50 years or so. If it’s too close to you, your planet pretty much gets sterilized. They think that one may have hit earth 2.5 million years ago, and while it wasn’t close enough to kill all life on earth, it seems like it may have caused a megafauna extinction event. So colonizing mars won’t really help avoid this either, to avoid this you have to travel to different part of the galaxy if you want your species to survive, and one theory is that they all just go extinct before they manage to do that

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

A Rocket To Nowhere

quote:

In the thirty years since the last Moon flight, we have succeeded in creating a perfectly self-contained manned space program, in which the Shuttle goes up to save the Space Station (undermanned, incomplete, breaking down, filled with garbage, and dropping at a hundred meters per day), and the Space Station offers the Shuttle a mission and a destination. The Columbia accident has added a beautiful finishing symmetry - the Shuttle is now required to fly to the ISS, which will serve as an inspection station for the fragile thermal tiles, and a lifeboat in case something goes seriously wrong.

This closed cycle is so perfect that the last NASA administrator even cancelled the only mission in which there was a compelling need for a manned space flight - the Hubble telescope repair and upgrade - on the grounds that it would be too dangerous to fly the Shuttle away from the ISS, thereby detaching the program from its last connection to reason[...]

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
Trump makes all this possible

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
being thousands of miles from earth is the most effective form of social distancing

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

wolfs posted:

will musk’s rocket fail horribly saturday? maybe!

that’s just how 2020 works

the most 2020 thing would be if they bring COVID to the ISS and then burn up on reentry

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


musks rocket uses a touchscreen instead of a joystick :lol: just unfuckinreal

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I think the only reason the old USA space program worked is because they weren’t run by boomers

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Sq1Nr58hM

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008



space is awesome

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys
space is cool, too me (space colonies are dumb tho)

ps i hate elon musk

StratGoatCom
Aug 6, 2019

Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice


euphronius posted:

why don’t we see evidence of other alien civilizations

it’s wierd

Might I point you toward the climate change and doomsday economics threads?

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

StratGoatCom posted:

Might I point you toward the climate change and doomsday economics threads?

I understand that and that many civs kill themselves

but it would only take a few to leave observable evidence and there are countless planets on which life can happen

it’s really wierd

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!
Turns out "the great filter" is not sudden catastrophic nuclear war, just slowly and avoidably running the planet into the ground.

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

euphronius posted:

I understand that and that many civs kill themselves

but it would only take a few to leave observable evidence and there are countless planets on which life can happen

it’s really wierd

It's probable that FTL isn't real and that the rest that make it just do a cost benefit analysis where they only colonize a couple of systems and then stop because there isn't any reason to go a long any farther.
2: it's likely that most intelligent life evolves on super earths and basically that makes spaceflight extremely expensive unless you wanna go full nuclear.
3: We are not looking in the right places and looking for the right stuff.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

twoday posted:

Well, when stars die they go supernova, and that sends out a giant explosion of radioactive death all around it. That happens in the Milky Way once about every 50 years or so. If it’s too close to you, your planet pretty much gets sterilized. They think that one may have hit earth 2.5 million years ago, and while it wasn’t close enough to kill all life on earth, it seems like it may have caused a megafauna extinction event. So colonizing mars won’t really help avoid this either, to avoid this you have to travel to different part of the galaxy if you want your species to survive, and one theory is that they all just go extinct before they manage to do that

our magnetic field and ozone layer would protect us from everything short of a star in the Centuri system going nova. Space is big.


euphronius posted:

why don’t we see evidence of other alien civilizations

it’s wierd

Space is again, big and we are cheap. There could be an earth clone orbiting the nearest star ( alpha centuri) and we would not know, even if it was using 1950’s era radio ( the easiest kind to hear because it was less efficient)

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Xakura posted:

Turns out "the great filter" is not sudden catastrophic nuclear war, just slowly and avoidably running the planet into the ground.

It's legit not even that, they honestly probably just lose interest.

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Re: super earths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amjuJJwI3iM

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

one step closer...



bless you space heroes

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

Space is really big, and so is time, they are definitely out there

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

twoday posted:

Well, when stars die they go supernova, and that sends out a giant explosion of radioactive death all around it. That happens in the Milky Way once about every 50 years or so. If it’s too close to you, your planet pretty much gets sterilized. They think that one may have hit earth 2.5 million years ago, and while it wasn’t close enough to kill all life on earth, it seems like it may have caused a megafauna extinction event. So colonizing mars won’t really help avoid this either, to avoid this you have to travel to different part of the galaxy if you want your species to survive, and one theory is that they all just go extinct before they manage to do that

That's an interesting article. Thank you

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019


What’s really interesting to me are super-habitable planets, https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&v=7PIxA2-D900

Basically it seems our sun (Yellow G class) isn’t the ideal sun, and that Orange K class suns have less harsh light, live longer and are more common.

The folks in the YouTube video propose that stars with less mass than the Sun, classified as K stars, are probably the best candidates for diversity since they’re long-lived and relatively stable. A K-type star will have a lifetime of 20-70 billion years without those pesky red dwarf megaflares.

Also, I personally believe that pop myth is wrong, and that the existence of Jupiter is bad for the solar system, because it starved planets of mass and doesn’t actually do poo poo to redirect asteroids.

PawParole has issued a correction as of 15:05 on May 28, 2020

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

PawParole posted:

What’s really interesting to me are super-habitable planets, https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&v=7PIxA2-D900

Basically it seems our sun (Yellow G class) isn’t the ideal sun, and that Orange K class suns have less harsh light, live longer and are more common.

That reminds of this article from Scientific American.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-shocking-colors-of-alien-plants/

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019


https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2020/01/13/orange-dwarfs-goldilocks-stars-for-life/

This is a better one, unpaywalled and from a blog I love

https://www.centauri-dreams.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/STSCI-H-p2006a-d-1280x720.jpg

StratGoatCom
Aug 6, 2019

Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice


Also worth noting that if varient Bussard NAFAL ships are the order of the day for most species, our area of space is uniquely poo poo for operating such things, as the interstellar medium is unusually hot and thin.

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Bussard ramjets loving own though so maybe they got the right idea? :hmmyes:

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china
why does it have to be Space Force, why not a portal to another dimension, or investigating the secret continent that the air force found decades ago

we need to develop military space culture because of the potential for rogue US military actors who are space pirates and ongoing threats from Space Nazis. we aren't competing with Russia and China for space dominance, we're competing with ourselves

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia3/ciencia_flyingobjects197.htm

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


spiss the final fucktier

these are the voyages of the starshit enterpiss

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

The Expanse TV series is very good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krqqqgixNq8

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

i think it'd be cool to have space habitats

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
i'm going to gently caress an alien

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Stairmaster posted:

i think it'd be cool to have space habitats

Low gravity would be pretty annoying though, if you accidentally elbow the coffee mug on your desk it's going to fly across the room

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


Jose posted:

i'm going to gently caress an alien

please do not have sex with mitch mcconnell

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Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


euphronius posted:

why don’t we see evidence of other alien civilizations

it’s wierd

space is really loving big and old and we haven't looked at 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of it yet

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