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thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

A tiny bit of unfinished business from the last thread - I was struggling to remember the name of the American bluetick who managed to perfectly encapsulate two hard-and-fast rules of the universe:

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1267060056203427840

- Anyone with a cartoon of themselves as their avatar is a twat
- Any portrait with the subject's hands visible is the mark of a dickhead

Yes, I'm sure those statistics are absolutely accurate to the numbers WaPo presumably got from the police, who don't recortd the numbers of unarmed black people they murder.

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thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Jedit posted:

With a little effort, I'm pretty sure I could find the names of ten black people murdered by the police in 2019.

You would be a better investigative journalist than WaPo if you did so.


Stating one's apoliticality is inherently a political act, but I'm sure these people won't let that stop them.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Jel Shaker posted:

its ok though they "returned fire"

Wanna bet the person whose fire they returned was a cop hiding amongst the protestors?

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Pretty sure that no matter what the shopkeeper's background he wasn't expecting the police to commit murder on the guy.

He should have been.

At this point anyone who is calling the police on a black man in america is at the very best, shamefully, pitifully ignorant of the consequences of calling the police on a black man in america, and regardless, is arguably complicit in the consequences.

thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Jun 1, 2020

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Oh and yeah I wondered if we were any better and well, immediately saw a facebook post crossposting images of a twitter thread (because what godforsaken hellscape is communication in the social media age) naming twenty-odd cases of similar levels of careless racist violence (which is only a representative sample), so whilst we're not like, openly gunning down dissidents in the street (often), we're not exactly sterling examples of compassionate policing ourselves.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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OwlFancier posted:

I don't suppose any of the LARPers and/or plumbers ITT would have any idea what the best way to put a metal cap on a quarterstaff would be?

Do you need to fabricate the cap or do you already have it at the right size?

Either way you would probably hold it on with nails and/or glue.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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OwlFancier posted:

I currently have a nice smooth, straight, and de-knotted stick. And a severe case of wanker's cramp.

I want to put a cap on the end so it doesn't split when I use it to walk with. A cross pin/nail might work I guess. Don't really have the tools to fabricate anything unfortunately, made the thing with sandpaper, a chisel, and a brick so I'm looking for what the best kind of off the shelf cap I can adapt, really, was hovering around threaded plumbing caps.

Like if I get a bit of pipe with a threaded end and then hammer it over the bottom, then buy a screw cap.

Two options: one as noted above, a ferrule, which wraps around but doesn't cover the end. Make it out of a bit of metal pipe. Fitting it can be a bit of a struggle if you can't use a lathe to get the size correct, but certainly isn't impossible, easier if you can heat up the ferrule and burn it onto the wood to get the final shaping and use the shrinkage of the metal to get a tight fit..

Second would be a cap. Easiest way would honestly probably just be to get a rubber walking-stick foot, they're like quid and they won't ding up anyone's floor, and they're trivial to fit. If you're set on metal, then I guess a plumbing cap the right size would work, I wouldn't want to rely on just a thread to hold it on though, I'd probably want to drill and pin it on, with nails doing diagonally down towards the base of the stick.

But honestly, if it's a decent piece of hardwood stick, just fire hardening it and dunking it in varnish should give it plenty of life unless you're leaning your whole weight on it and doing so on concrete, routinely.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

You know I joked about it yesterday but is anyone else finding their mental state eroding over the past few months? The combination of no meaningful work and no real incentive to leave the house, leaving me to just consume the internet like a loving baleen whale, has chopped my attention span to basically zero. I've not read a book in weeks - just can't concentrate, I forget the preceding paragraph before I even start the next. Television is just a background noise, if I sit down to try and watch something I instantly pull my phone out and start scrolling. There's a stack of unfinished personal projects, from minor DIY to a novel, staring at me but nope, just gotta quickly refresh Twitter. The last thing of any note I completed was that post about the BT Tower *and I had to check my drafts folder to remember what I posted about*.

Now you could advance the theory that the last few weeks have had Happenings at such a fever pitch that it's not surprising that I've ended up in this state but I don't really feel anything about any of it. Murders, mayhem and Jimmy Bollock suddenly coming out on the side of BLM get the same level of shock from me as an own goal from 90s lower-league football.

I'd worry about boomer brain, but it's somehow even worse, as I can't even be arsed posting (or even forwarding) for the most part. It feels more like an eating disorder, I just have to keep shoveling it in without any actual enjoyment or disgust or even acknowledgement.

I'm exaggerating this all a little bit, but I sort of walked in on myself yesterday with those posts about the police when I re-read them, because they're a pretty incoherent mess when the ideas in my mind were fairly sharp and well-defined, and it's given me the mental equivalent of a toothache that I can't stop prodding, and as I've always said I find just writing this sort of stuff out to be pretty strongly therapeutic on its own. I'm now off for a long walk to get some dog treats - not because I need them, this idiot creature has more food in the house than I do - but because actually having a project to complete and completing it will do my brain and body far more good than wearing my scroll wheel another couple of mms ever will.

Mine has been swinging wildly, but I was discussion with my wife just last night how honestly I'm finding it incredibly difficult to motivate for anything that isn't part of my current daily/weekly routine, and how weird and distressing it is that I've almost completely stopped reading fiction for pleasure over the last couple of years. And I'm better off than a lot of people in that my need for human contact is relatively low, but even I'm starting to get starved of conversation and socialising.

I'm super fortunate to still have, and still be able to afford, weekly therapy if for no other reason that just to vent this stuff.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Borrovan posted:

Honestly I think I'm gonna really struggle to adapt back to regular life when the lockdown is over. I'm legit scared about the prospect of just being expected to go outside and interact normally with people at some point. You spend your entire life convincing yourself that your anxiety is all in the head, that other people are not scary nor scared of you, everything is fine, then this whole thing has been an exercise in smashing that all down & re-learning that actually, people are scary, people are afraid of you, if you see someone coming then cross the loving road or face judgment tutting. Feels like I'm gonna go back to square one, anxiety wise

Obviously the longer this goes on the worse that'll be in the end, and even more obviously our first concern should be protecting the vulnerable and reducing deaths, it's just something that's been playing on my mind a lot

I feel this. Like, on the one hand, I'm desperate to get back to some of the events I've felt crushed to have missed, and to start going to some things I would probably have started doing in the time we've been locked down, but on the other hand, I don't think I'll feel safe to do that until there's a vaccine and my wife, at the very least has had it. WHich probably precludes me going to several of thos events I've been so desperately looking forward to.

Let alone doing things like starting to play board games and D&D in person again when other people are comfortable going back, but I'm not.

It's daunting.

You're not alone in that.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Ms Adequate posted:

B99 hurts me because it's copoganda while also being one of the best shows on TV :(

The way I reconcile it is that B99 is (largely) a show about what cops are *supposed to be* but occasionally acknowledges what they *actually are*.

I.e., it's mostly about detectives solving crimes (well, it's mostly a comedy soap opera that happens to be set in a police station), but occasionally acknowledges that cops are almost exclusively NOT detectives solving crimes.

But it really sucks that Scrubs but in a police station and scrubs in a hospital came in the order they did, because they;'re basically the same show made a decade apart, and I wish to god Scrubs had been the one that happened to be made now.

Albeit, Scrubs is still about America's utter horror show of a medical system, so swings and roundabouts I guess.

I am a huge fan of B99 at least partly because Rosa's coming out story was a big part of the inspiration for me coming to terms with my own sexuality and coming out as much as I have done, so it's pleasing at least to find out that Stephanie Beatriz is Not A poo poo.

B99 is much, much worse *because* it's set in NYC and the NYPD have historically been among the worse abusers in the US policing system.

Sometimes good things are made about poo poo subjects.

Maybe good things SHOULD be made about poo poo subjects, if they're made in a way to point out the shitness of the subjects and how they should actually be?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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stev posted:

Yeah looking back on Scrubs for a basic early 2000s sitcom it really took a strong stand on the US healthcare system. I want to see more of that in my disposable comedy.

Scrubs did pretty well at the time for racial and gender representation, but has aged really poorly on other representation, particularly queer representation (it realy didn't have many queer characters at all, and its only coming out story that I can remember was The Todd which was handled... not great...), but was otherwise generally good and usually made it pretty obvious how poo poo the system is.

But like B99, it could definitely have done more to explicitly say 'no the system is terrible, we just happen to be working in it'. I suspect they wanted to, like I suspect B99 wants to, but were held back by a mix between network executives and the simple awareness that people wouldn't accept being told how poo poo things actually are.

E: I'd love to see more non-cop whodunnits though - and not just the Miss Marple type ones, but like, more imaginative settings. Gimme a whodunnit set in like, ancient Rome, or prehistoric Africa, or on a pirate ship, or... etc.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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FWIW if anyone else is looking for non-cop whodunnits, The Bletchley Circle and its follow up The Bletchley Circle San Francisco are great, and the latter is super gay considering the time period. Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries is also reasonable.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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peanut- posted:

Justified has got to be the worst offender among "bad" police TV shows. Raylan Givens is unspeakably terrible at his job and just arbitrarily executes anyone he didn't work down a coal mine with all the time.

It's so good though.

I struggle to believe anything could top CSI Miami's international extrajudicial murder on foreign soil punctuated by a quip, the sunglasses, and 'yyyyyeyeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhh'

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Necrothatcher posted:



obvs the cause is just but maaaaan that's a lot of people very close together
I've struggled a lot the past few days to get my head around protest in the plague times.

It points, I think, to people who feel more strongly that the system is screwing them over, than that the virus will.

In all likelihood, it points to people who are currently being screwed over by the system to the point that this isn't significantly less safe from the virus than their daily lives.

I wouldn't go out and protest right now, for almost anything.

But I know for sure as poo poo, if I was being forced to go to work in Starbucks or an ASOS warehouse or a supermarket, I'd probably not care anywhere near as much, because what's another day of possible exposure?

It's true there, and it's true here: the people who are protesting are risking it because to them, it's less risky than not doing it.

I don't feel like it's my place to gainsay that, and I'd far rather criticise the system that forces them to protest under threat of plague, than criticise them protesting under threat of plague.

Or to put it another way, the damage that inevitably arises from this is not the fault of the protestors, it's the fault of the system that means they can't make their voices heard any other way, and that makes them not significantly safer at home, than out in Hyde Park.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

Yeah but you know sure as poo poo that the press and government will try to blame them for the second wave, rather than their relaxing of the lockdown to nothing a few days ago.

If I was more conspiratorial I'd wonder if they censored the systemic racism in covid report to get more people angry and out on the streets to get herd immunity quicker while having a convenient target of "the bad blacks" to blame.

As is it's probably Hanlon's razor and the guarantee of a lazy racist press.

The government will blame someone for the second wave regardless. It'll be the beachgoers, it'll be the ramblers, it'll be the coffee drinkers, it'll be the pubs that can't do social distancing, it'll be people having barbecues, and watching the footie.

I honestly doubt they will blame these protestors, because blaming the protestors means acknowledging the protests even happened, and based on past history of this party's response to mass protests, they'd far prefer to sweep it under the rug and ignore it.

In a way, the timing couldn't be worse.

But in another, much more real way, the fact that the timing couldn't be worse *is the reason it's happening now*.

Protests don't happen when things are good.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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XMNN posted:

rip ed miliband, but the rest are good

I wonder if the entire cabinet will be doing their civic duty and self isolating if he does turn out to be positive, or if that's still just for the little people

e: also dragging yourself into parliament when there's a pandemic on and you're feeling ill, specifically to vote against remote voting, is an interesting move

Seriously, this is the mostly utterly insane thing, and the most death-culty thing, that the Tories have done yet this parliament and it's a long loving list already. Literally standing in a half mile queue because it's not safe to stand in the usual ludicrously cramped mob to demand that they return to work in quarters that are woefully inadequate even under NON pandemic circumstances is just... ever-expanding psyduck vomiting psyducks levels of what the fuckery.

I'm so loving exhausted

E: I give pairing maybe two weeks before it gets quietly swept under the carpet with absolutely no fanfare, and it makes no difference that it is because the Tories literally couldn't lose a vote. I'm pretty sure they would all dutifully vote for their own executions if the whips told them to.

And given the history around similar times, it might well come to that.

thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Jun 3, 2020

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Jose posted:

So a friend I was discussing the lockdown with back at the start where I linked stuff about the herd immunity and got told I was making Boris sound like he wanted to commit a genocide I brought back up the policy and the fact it has actually killed tens of thousands and he got real mad at me for misinterpreting what he said, that I obviously think he's a free market capitalist and I'm convincing nobody when I link guardian articles with bad poo poo the Tories are doing and ask people not to vote for them and that he isn't engaging in the links. Makes me think it really is weighing on him and he doesn't want to engage with the idea his vote was lovely because I have never suggested he voted Tory or is right wing lol

It's funny how lovely, lovely people frequently react incredibly defensively when you mention lovely things in their vicinity without ever even implying they themselves have done them.

If you have the energy, keep plugging. It'll take sustained metaphorical battering to break down the walls of voluntary ignorance, propaganda, fallacious thinking, and so forth, but if you can, then that might be a convert.

We need to deradicalise as many people as we can stomach deradicalising, and you're doing a good thing by trying.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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I'm in two minds about that. On the one hand LBC is a pile of unutterable horseshit that has hosted Farage for most of a decade (and continues to do so?).

On the other hand, actually speaking to the general public on one of the better-known platforms for engaging with politics, and providing a less right-wing voice than any they've had before, has a chance to do something non-poo poo if Keir does it right.

I'm not holding out any of the h-word, but I think on balance it's more likely to do more good than forensically getting brayed at at PMQs and getting COVID as a result.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

I'm reminded of the response that Swedish warden gave to some American lawman who was all like "why are your prisons so soft, what the hell you let them join prisoners' unions and vote?"

Sticking people in prisons that don't work, disenfranchising them, and then throwing them out on the streets angry and unreformed is an insult to their next victim.

As if people like the shitwit quoted above actually care about the victims.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Bobstar posted:

Tell me why this thought process of mine is too simplistic: prisoners should be allowed to vote, if only because they can then vote for people who promise to make the thing they're in prison for not a crime, and release those convicted of it.

That works for things like drugs, and is unlikely to make any difference in actual bad crimes.

I'm more down the No Prisons route myself, but the above is more as a rebuttal to people who think prisoners should never vote because reasons.

Prisoners should be allowed to vote because if imprisoning people disenfranchises them then there's double the incentive to lock up your political opponents on spurious charges.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:


Discouraging the perverse incentive to build huge prisons in small towns so that they can claim a large population while still having regressive local rear end politics (mostly a US thing).

This in particular has always felt to me more like an argument against setting up your voting boundaries such that they take account of large quantities of non-voting adults than specifically against disenfranchising prisoners - it would equally not be a problem if you didn't count the populations of those huge prisons as part of that district for determining where the boundary lines are drawn.

but then, the entire point of the way that system is set up is specifically to allow doing that so

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

How do these people cope if they visit somewhere like, Avignon Castle (I think it was there) where there are two rows of mixed-sex cubicles and a single mixed-sex queue. Or indeed open air concerts where they have those stinky unisex cubicles.

Lol they don't visit places.


Isomermaid posted:

It's going to be the M*msnet massive phoning in every day to ask him about their lEgItiMatE cOncErNS about "what if a trans woman is making GBS threads within 6 cubicles what then" and he'll be "well of course we have to look at both sides narf narf" I guarantee it

True. I confess to having relatively little ideas what the listener demographics of LBC are.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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OwlFancier posted:

I genuinely wonder sometimes if these weirdos who go off about gender neutral bathrooms keep a bucket of paint outside their bathroom door at home.

You are ascribing way too much rationality to this line of... well I hesitate to even call it thought.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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hemale in pain posted:

I refuse to believe anyone mad at gender neutral toilets is doing it from a position of sincerity. Any sort of toilet based argument is insane. How'd you even notice a trans person in a toilet? why would you be looking at people in a public toilet??? ahhhhh :psyduck:

I think many if not most are doing it from a position of sincerity, just not a position of anything approaching rationality.

I think the majority sincerely believe the nonsensical bullshit they've bought into about the bathroom assaulter narrative, and they've never stopped to think about trans people as being... you know, people, rather than the straw bathroom assault monster they read about in the Mail.

There are certainly a small number of powerful people who absolutely know it's bullshit and are using it as a cudgel, though.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

This just made me think 'bathroom assault rifle', which I guess would be some kind of bizarre mix of the TERF bathroom assault poo poo and the US liberal attempts to regulate firearms not by social danger but by whether they have foregrips and 'shoulder things that go up'.

It's completely dumb but still made me laugh more than Frank Furedi's sketch crew.

A bathroom assault rifle would presumably be somethign that rapid fires poo poo.

So, the Sun. Or Boris Johnson.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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hemale in pain posted:

You're right. I just have a tough time dealing with the idea that people geniunely fear the toilet assault thing from a trans person. If someone was intent on harming someone they wouldn't need to pretend to be trans person to enter a womens toilet. Not like there's toilet guards checking genders at the door.

It's always going to be tough to understand a completely irrational response to a perfectly reasonable situation. Because that response is inherently impossible to understand if you're thinking rationally.

Jedit posted:

Have you considered the possibility that it's so a man doesn't accidentally walk in on a woman in the toilet, or vice versa?

Locks, but also, if someone inadvertently walks in on someone else in the loo, the most likely response is utter embarassment on both parties then backing out. Or the person inside shouting as soon as they see the door opening where they thought it was locked, and the person outside saying 'oh poo poo sorry' and closing it again.

What are you thinking the effect of someone accidentally walking in on someone else in the loo would be?

E: and why does the gender of either participant matter?

thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Jun 4, 2020

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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I'd use this loo.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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I'm not wild about anything you have to pull off over your head as a face covering.

I just sewed one up out of an old work shirt and some elastic ripped from an old bit of cosplay, but I appreciate I might be unusual in my access to those kinds of resources.

I only go out once a week though, so it's trivial to get it washed in time.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Which Tory donor is getting a giant bung to build this giant bung?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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forkboy84 posted:

The only way my morale will be improved by a new Royal Yacht is if we taxpayers all get a time share of it. I bagsy 2 weeks next July.

You're welcome to it I'll stay off the gammon-infested plague ship tyvm

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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kingturnip posted:

Build the yacht, put Andrew on board, then kick him overboard the moment it gets to international waters.

Then kick everyone else overboard as well.

Maxwell the gently caress out of 'em.

Don't build the yacht at all, just build a guillotine.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Ms Adequate posted:

What was the original tweet, it's been deleted

It was one of Lin manuel Miranda's good morning tweets, that he does every morning, with some vague good-feels platitudes in it.

IDK why Sirtis is taking exception to it to be honest.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Get more out if you put more in is nonsensical.

Because if you can afford to put more in, you don't need to get more out.

Not to mention that if you've never put any in, because you're, say, loving YOUNG, then what?

gently caress you I guess?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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radmonger posted:

The trick is to not have a next Tory government.

If only we had known that sooner.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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OwlFancier posted:

Not inconsistent with prior police behaviour, everything is a deadly weapon if the police aren't the ones using it.

It's a deadly weapon if they are, it's just that no fucker is charging, convicting, and punishing them for killing people with it.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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OwlFancier posted:

Apparently the NYPD is having about 6 people resign per day on average, so if they can keep this up we might get police abolition by default.

Yeah, this is starting to do the rounds in the more radical spaces I spectate on.

People are THIS loving CLOSE to realising that if we all stop obeying the system at the same time it will break down for good.

In particular, most cities in the US have had literally every cop on duty with no breaks for a week now. There are VASTLY more people than there are cops, all it takes is working in shifts to keep up the pressure and the cops will crack first. They can't not.

Also BLM have painted Black Lives Matter in like... 40 foot yellow letters down 16th street NW which leads directly to the white house. Which is cool as all gently caress.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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HopperUK posted:

I remember the favourite word in my German lessons was 'Naja!' said with heavy, heavy sarcasm.

I'd never say I speak German as such but I can ask where the station is and say 'I'm sorry, my German is very bad, could you please say that a bit more slowly' and that'll get you around.

Mine was gegenuber, just because I like how it sounds.

DrSnakeLaser posted:

Terry's Chocolate Log

Turn it inside out to make terry's chocolate...

sea urchin, why where did you think I was going?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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The comments under this thread are interesting, because they point something out that needs saying more.

Defund the police is an excellent start, especially in the USA where their budgets are nonsensically high.

But it's important that in defunding the police you fund replacements, particularly social programmes, social care, mental healthcare, etc etc etc.

Oh, and the Tories are doing a survey about their immigration bill.

it's is Trumpian in its terribleness, and only being advertised on Tory channels.

https://action.conservatives.com/immigration-bill-survey/

I'm probably not filling it in, because it's the most leading-question bullshit, but if anyone cleverer than me can work out a way to junk up the data that would help.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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OwlFancier posted:

I think when the police are using them to run people over I give more of a poo poo about the people than the horse.

Yeah the animal abuse is just another thing to blame the whole system for.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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Pesky Splinter posted:

Jesus Christ, read "multiple blogs", but still doesn't understand even the basics of sex and gender. :lol:

It's pretty clear she understands it - she just has put herself in a position where actually agreeing with it would make her initial, ill-informed assumption wrong, and she can't be WRONG so she just keeps doubling the gently caress down.

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thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

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OwlFancier posted:

CIS are the separatists in the prequel trilogy aren't they?

Confederation of Independent Systems, yes.

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