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AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747
Does anyone outside the US advocate for abolishing police? I've never seen anyone irl here do so. Which gives me the impression it's more drastic than strictly required. Similarly with disarming police. Contrary to the perception some might have, most European police do carry firearms and while hardly perfect they do kill vastly fewer people.

Big difference iirc is the length of education, strict selection and generally more centralized control.

What country has the best behaved police and what do they do? That's more interesting to me than very theoretical police free societies or small isolated communities existing in literal warzones.

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AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Rapulum_Dei posted:

Interesting read. Theres an assumptionby the guest that funding is EITHER for policing OR for communities. I agree with the host


Spending so much on a military and leaving health, eduction, infrastucture and policing the scraps is the problem here.


Eh, percentage of gdp wise US defense spending is at the level of European welfare states during the cold war. There's plenty of money in the system to pay for both, as those nations did then, you must be willing to collect taxes and spend it.

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Crumbskull posted:

Policing, definitionally, is using state violence to control the population and maintain a racialised class system in service of capital. That needs to be abolished.

This is a weird and I guess US centric definition to me. Socialist countries had police forces policing their population after all. So whatever definition you want to assign to the police being abolished, this doesnt work.

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747
Young men.

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