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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > F The Police, and then what? A police/justice abolition thread
 
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fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

 Before this thread eats itself because of one reason or another...

Can anyone recommend me actual good material on "police abolition" ideas? I.e., point-by-point program with research and maybe global experience to back it up? And not "police reform but with a punchy name".

I am not opposed to learning something on the topic but whenever goons or random lefty on twitter boosts that, it is either "abolish first think later" cheerleading or something utopian/surface level so I can't help but be sceptical.

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missed this good post, would appreciate more recommendations!

Mat Cauthon posted:

Just going to post some resources I've found helpful in motivating me to be an abolitionist (of both police and the carceral state in general).

Very good interview of Mariame Kaba, a real deal abolitionist organizer who does amazingly great work in NYC and Chicago.


From here: https://thenextsystem.org/learn/stories/towards-horizon-abolition-conversation-mariame-kaba

"The End of Policing" grapples broadly with the question of "well if we don't have police then what" and you can get the e-book for free right now.

https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/4729-the-problem-is-not-overpolicing-it-is-policing-itself

Guidelines for abolitionist organizing around prosecutors and district attorneys: https://www.communityjusticeexchange.org/abolitionist-principles

Great interview with Simone Browne about the anti-Black, white supremacist origins of policing and modern surveillance states - I also recommend her book "Dark Matters": https://truthout.org/articles/the-surveillance-of-blackness-from-the-slave-trade-to-the-police/

I would also recommend:

- The Condemnation of Blackness
- This Nonviolent Stuff’ll Get You Killed (this is more about armed community organizing than policing explicitly)
- Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America's Police Forces
- Cities Under Siege
- The First Civil Right
- Are Prisons Obsolete
- Women, Race, & Class
- The Muslims Are Coming

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fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

CocoaNuts posted:

O M F'ing G!!!!!


I had not seen any city budget this egregious before reading that thread. There is no way anyone in the world could justify this disproportionate spending on police:






Utterly reprehensible!

Real "spend less on candles" moment

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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > F The Police, and then what? A police/justice abolition thread