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shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

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The Chinese state seems to continue to believe in its own legitimacy, if it starts into endless austerity then we'll know it's hosed too.

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shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

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ToxicAcne posted:

Could one view the American Civil War as a sort of bourgeois revolution, where the last elements of the feudal class in America (the Southern Aristocracy) was removed?

No because it was retained and reinforced, the exact nature of oppression was brought up to more profitable standards compatible with industrial agriculture and financial captalism

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

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cheetah7071 posted:

I'm a but more optimistic on low-emissions international shipping being possible in a world where the cheapest option isn't always the one chosen, at least. If nothing else, telling people the revolution means they have to give up coffee and computers feels like a sure fire way to never recruit anybody

Sea trade is pretty easy to go zero carbon if you don't have to chase that last tenth of a cent profit.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

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cheetah7071 posted:

I see, so you meant like, international shipping of anime figures should disappear. Not international shipping of coffee. That makes a lot more sense. We were just working under different definitions of luxuries and I got confused.

It's no more insane than anything else once you've decarbonized, there's a stigma but a lot of it comes from labor/globalization concerns and just plain ignorance honestly, no one thinks we shouldn't transport stuff around by rail and they're generally quite equivalent.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

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Co-ops sound good, like another unsexy thing where the idea and ramifications end up being radical as hell, like the more radical cousin of a union.

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