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KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


OctoberCountry posted:

I miss the bug orgies

I miss Waru.

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Hate Fibration
Apr 8, 2013

FLÄSHYN!
Showing me this man's beard was a hate crime.

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.

remigious posted:

Apparently he is friends with a bunch of my writer acquaintances, but I had never heard of him. I have decided, after viewing the evidence presented here, that he sucks.

Maybe I'm a cynical bastard, but it feels like all the people leaping to his defence are trying to just buddy up to him because he's a "big name."

Apparently Wendig didn't write the fart wedding?
Maybe we should have been able to tell, because whilst it's awful for a multitude of reasons, Wendig has a truly terrible and unique way of writing.

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017

:obama:My first car was a stick:obama:
I grabbed one of this guy's books after Force Awakens came out. I've read a lot of trashy Star Wars and Warhammer stuff, but couldn't get a quarter of the way through Aftermath. Sat at the bottom of my bag for months

SilvergunSuperman
Aug 7, 2010

His style reminds me of foam adventure pals in written form.

ZANY!

Alien Sex Manual
Dec 14, 2010

is not a sandwich

Parahexavoctal posted:

Chuck Wendig had a twitter thread that got made into a movie.

He was played by Alyson Hannigan.

This is a hate crime.

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

WeedlordGoku69 posted:

comics writers, just as a note, tend to be really insane about piracy compared to the general public for a few reasons.

1) the vast, vast majority of comics writers have at least one creator-owned indie book through Image or IDW or Boom Studios or *insert laundry list of indie publishers here*. while you're not taking food out of their mouths by pirating, say, New Avengers or Uncanny X-Men or Detective Comics, if you pirate something like Uber or The Wicked & The Divine or Saga, you actually are hurting the creative team because their payment depends 100% on how much the book sells (vs. being a flat page rate for work-for-hire).

2) comics are insanely commonly pirated. you can literally find anything i mentioned just now, along with basically any other comic in existence, on multiple online readers by googling them and adding "read free," and you can find them to download just as easily by adding "cbr cbz." comics fans haven't liked to pay for anything for basically as long as the internet has been a thing; before this, there was a whole-rear end livejournal group, scans_daily, where people would frequently post entire comics.

basically, comics writers are maybe the one group of people on planet Earth, aside from possibly the most successful tiers of indie musicians and Kindle writers, who both have a bone to pick with piracy and a reasonable, sane basis for this bone to pick. not only does it frequently directly harm them, but it's also common enough that this harm is actually quantifiable and obvious.

with that said, though, going after poo poo in other media that don't have these weird factors is brainwormy as gently caress. i'm... actually fairly sure archive.org didn't have any comics uploaded, or if they did, it was an absolute drop in the bucket compared to the numerous sites that exist solely for comic piracy. so, while I think Wendig's viewpoint is defensible, I don't think his actions in service of that viewpoint are at all.

This makes a lot of sense. All that said, I wonder how many of those pirates are also buying comics. I used to be big into comics but even setting aside a large portion of my fun budget each month, there was no way I could afford the hobby. So I’d pirate crossovers and back issues. I’m still occasionally picking up old trades to complete the series I was reading from years ago. I stopped looking into new comics because the poo poo is expensive.

BigBadSteve
Apr 29, 2009

Writers deserve to be paid, most earn close to nothing, even really goood writers. They have moral and legal rights over their copyrighted works, many of which took years to create. So good move Chuck Wendig.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
writers deserve to get paid* and all people deserve all art because all ideas are everyone's

*only because of a hostile economic system, really, everyone should get paid for being alive by default

A Grand Egg
Jan 12, 2020

by Pragmatica
Are there any stats re authors: I lost money that actually effected me because of piracy of my book?

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

I would have agreed that all writers deserve to be paid before I read this thread.

OctoberCountry
Oct 9, 2012

BigBadSteve posted:

Writers deserve to be paid, most earn close to nothing, even really goood writers. They have moral and legal rights over their copyrighted works, many of which took years to create. So good move Chuck Wendig.

Except this lawsuit is only benefitting the giant corporate publishers who are already paying said writers way less than they deserve

Mooey Cow
Jan 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Pillbug
I am a writer of posts yet I am not paid for this, indeed I had to pay for the privilege. Maybe it is Chuck Wendigo who should be paying us :thunk:

remigious
May 13, 2009

Destruction comes inevitably :rip:

Hell Gem

Diesel Fucker posted:

Maybe I'm a cynical bastard, but it feels like all the people leaping to his defence are trying to just buddy up to him because he's a "big name."
I think you are totally right. Interestingly, most of the writers I know have come out against him, saying they don’t really care if their work is pirated as long as someone is reading it. It’s loving hard to make a living just selling books.

A Grand Egg
Jan 12, 2020

by Pragmatica
People who buy books buy books

File sharing didn't destroy computer games or music industry.

Youre precious nook with a warm blanket and a cup of chai is fine you dumb fucks.

I guess wanting to sell their asses to big publishers is the problem here? I mean Bandcamp for music, Itch and others for games...Shits progressed.

A Grand Egg fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jun 13, 2020

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦
Is the lawsuit of the 4 publishers against the IA a result of this, or was that already happening? Did this loving dipshit open the floodgates for a cool library project to get shuttered?

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

BigBadSteve posted:

Writers deserve to be paid, most earn close to nothing, even really goood writers. They have moral and legal rights over their copyrighted works, many of which took years to create. So good move Chuck Wendig.

Have you ever tried to borrow an e-book from the archive before the pandemic? The way the internet archive normally works, they do. One copy owned by the archive = one copy loaned out at a time. Wait times for popular books were not short.

Which is how libraries have worked for the last 170 years. Why was it never a problem for authors before now?


With e-books publishers have been attempting to destroy the public library model. They already bullied libraries out of the idea of ownership. Public library e-books exist on sufferance with every e-book being a temporary 'license' that will evaporate after n uses. That's an unsustainable burden in the long term.

Public libraries overwhelmingly support people who can't afford to buy any book they want. Authors deserve to get paid, poor people deserve to be able to read.

A Grand Egg
Jan 12, 2020

by Pragmatica

Heath posted:

Is the lawsuit of the 4 publishers against the IA a result of this, or was that already happening? Did this loving dipshit open the floodgates for a cool library project to get shuttered?

This dipshit started it, yes,

Then tried backtracking hard like lovely rich white liberal that didnt know calling the cops gets people killed

And hes now locked his twitter






His blog is here
http://terribleminds.com/ramble/blog/

A Grand Egg fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jun 13, 2020

Jeffrey Dahmer
May 21, 2017

by Pragmatica
Muldoon
What a oval office

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Sourdough Sam
May 2, 2010

:dukedog:
Doin' Strongbad dirty here.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I think this guy seems like he's not a very good writer, but he's a better writer than everyone in here who has never actually written anything

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


https://twitter.com/replyguys_txt/status/1271766669841567746?s=09

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

Pick posted:

I think this guy seems like he's not a very good writer, but he's a better writer than everyone in here who has never actually written anything

Pretty sure this falls under the "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt" clause

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

Pick posted:

I think this guy seems like he's not a very good writer, but he's a better writer than everyone in here who has never actually written anything

Better than your posts maybe ...

gleebster
Dec 16, 2006

Only a howler
Pillbug

Klyith posted:

Authors deserve to get paid, poor people deserve to be able to read.

All this additional information about this Wendgo fellow makes me feel badly about Whitehead for being associated with him in any way.

Jet Jaguar
Feb 12, 2006

Don't touch my bags if you please, Mr Customs Man.



The Internet Archive does an ill-conceived, self-destructive own goal that was always going to get them sued into the ground by publishers.

But gently caress this one author, am I right?

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.


Heath posted:

Pretty sure this falls under the "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt" clause

Writing white noise short stories and posting them in GBS threads is fun though

Crespolini
Mar 9, 2014

Authors in general should paid for their work, but the specific author Chuck Wendig should be fired out of a cannon

OctoberCountry
Oct 9, 2012

Jet Jaguar posted:

The Internet Archive does an ill-conceived, self-destructive own goal that was always going to get them sued into the ground by publishers.

But gently caress this one author, am I right?

yes you are

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.

Pick posted:

I think this guy seems like he's not a very good writer, but he's a better writer than everyone in here who has never actually written anything

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

I'm an author. I love the Internet Archive because I was able to find dozens of primary sources for my work as a historian because of their work. Chuck Wendig can eat my rear end hairs.

Jeffrey Dahmer
May 21, 2017

by Pragmatica
Muldoon
Chuck isn't gonna suck your dick. or drink your breast milk, chill out

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

Jeffrey Dahmer posted:

Chuck isn't gonna suck your dick. or drink your breast milk, chill out

Neither is the internet archive

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

Jet Jaguar posted:

The Internet Archive does an ill-conceived, self-destructive own goal that was always going to get them sued into the ground by publishers.

But gently caress this one author, am I right?

Kiss the very tip of my dick

remigious
May 13, 2009

Destruction comes inevitably :rip:

Hell Gem
I guess I just don’t see how it’s any different from lending a friend a book. If they read it for free and really enjoy it, they’ll buy their own copy!

CantDecideOnAName
Jan 1, 2012

And I understand if you ask
Was this life,
was this all?
From my understanding, getting rid of the Internet Archive means the Wayback Machine goes away too, right?

This is bigger than just authors. As someone who writes and knows other people who write, some of them even professionally, yes, it's very important for creators to be paid for their time, energy, and effort. However, as a creator, I do this for the joy of creation. I'd be willing to let my novels be read for free because my goal is to entertain and educate. However, that's not how the capitalist world works, and in order for people to survive they have to be paid so they can afford to pay others for food, shelter, and other amenities. Exposure bucks don't pay the rent.

I will admit that my knowledge of this isn't as thorough as it could or should be-- if you have better resources then please correct me. This lawsuit is about precedent and punishment, as far as I can understand. Wendig could have sued for less, but he's suing for an amount that the IA absolutely can't pay, right? So it's not about getting justice, it's about breaking them.

Naturally, publishers are going to back him on this. People reading free copies aren't buying those books. Granted, some people are-- I've read a book for free online that I later bought just to have a nice copy of a story I love-- but a lot of people, myself included, just want to read something once and not have it sitting around for them to deal with later.

You know who else is going to back him on this? Corporations and politicians who want the Wayback Machine to go away so that people can't throw their words back into their faces later. Can we recreate the IA again later? Maybe. But you'd be starting fresh, from scratch, because all that preexisting information would most likely be gone. It's petabytes of information-- good luck downloading all that.

I don't have a degree in law or anything like that, so I may very well be speaking out of my rear end, but this is bigger than a single lackluster author throwing a hissy fit.

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

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Pick posted:

I think this guy seems like he's not a very good writer, but he's a better writer than everyone in here who has never actually written anything

nah shaddup

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com
if thats how someone writes than those who have not are definitely better than he

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

CantDecideOnAName posted:

From my understanding, getting rid of the Internet Archive means the Wayback Machine goes away too, right?

Your understanding is wrong. The Internet Archive isn't going away. Just the bit where they're offering filez for new books.

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer

Fartington Butts posted:

Edit: This dude is definitely friends with Adam Savage, right?

Travis McElroy at the very least

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Agent Escalus
Oct 5, 2002

"I couldn't stop saying aloud how miscast Jim Carrey was!"
It's chronicled online that Wendig has the notoriety of being fired from his Star Wars writing gig due to his social media outbursts.

But not as an ultraconservative - as a wingnut leftist blowhard. In a company AND industry that swings predominantly left, no less!

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