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This is pretty obvious but: Melanie = neoliberalism Ruth and the guards = fascism Layton and the Tail = socialism Melanie maintains social stratification because it is a holdover from the old world and she believes it is the only way to maintain the stability required for the train to continue to run and humanity to survive. The show/franchise in general is an allegory about how neoliberal capitalism trundles on with no alternatives allowed despite the fact that it is plainly unsustainable. Melanie believes she is buying time for the suspended animation tech to be developed that will allow the selected people to be put in the drawers to wait out the ice age. The most unrealistic thing about the show is that Wilford being dead is a surprise to anyone. In reality rumours and conspiracy theories start swirling when people don't see a world leader for a week.
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cheese sandwich posted:Was it ever explained why first class still has so much power and influence? Is it just because hospitality and the jackboots like palling around with people that used to be important? Why do the rich have power and influence now?
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Phenotype posted:Because they can use their money to influence people, which isn't really the case when you're on a magic train speeding through a world of ice. Money isn't real. It's basically just a codified form of influence which the first class on the train also have. The entire point of Snowpiercer is that you think the stratified society on the train is horrific, arbitrary, unsustainable and nonsensical, and then realise this is also true of the real society, in reality.
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Alex is meant to be like 15 years old or something, the Australian lady is in her 20s (at least), they’re not going to have them get in a relationship you weirdos.
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I like Snowpiercer as much as anyone, but I think calling it “television’s ultimate thrill ride” is overselling it a bit.
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This show really feels like it’s lost its way. The first season was fantastic - a clear allegorical story that moved forward towards an exciting climax. The second season I could forgive somewhat as it was filmed right at the beginning of COVID and had clear compromises because of that. But I just have no idea what is going on now or what the point of anything is. The first season was all about Layton’s fight to improve life for the Talies and bring equality to the train. In season two this is largely delayed because they’re dealing with the sudden unexpected crisis of Wilford and Big Alice turning up. Then it’s obviously cancelled when Wilford takes the train. But what about now? There’s been almost no talk about it. It seems that first class is gone but that’s about it? “Old Ivan’s Way” is implied to be a thing of the past so it does seem there has been some change for the tail, but they seem to still be living there in similar conditions to before. I guess they can walk around the train now? If they want to say that Layton was unable to make large changes to the train society, that’s fine, but instead they’ve just ignored the whole issue and apparently forgotten the main theme of the show. The biggest offender of this lack of direction is the entire “New Eden Lie”. Why did this even happen? Why was there even a choice of whether they’d take the train there? The train has to keep moving and has no where else to go. There’s no urgency, they can take their time. There is literally no reason not to go check out this area to see if it’s defrosted based on even the flimsiest of evidence. But they needed something to “inspire the train” and instead of the actual reason he was elevated to Train King in the first place Layton makes up a bullshit lie about a new utopia which even if the area is defrosted definitely won’t exist and will inevitably be exposed in a matter of months. The proof given is Asha, who cannot describe New Eden in any detail and has no explanation of why she was found far outside of it. And now it looks like Asha was only on the show in the first place because they needed a character to replace Jennifer Connelly and with her return Asha has to die because they can’t afford both actors at once. It’s very frustrating.
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Anyone missing Snowpiercer should check out Silo on Apple TV+. It’s a very similar show, though with a higher production budget!
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