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OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

Badger of Basra posted:

Ah I love direct democracy!

"This industry" here refers to the gig economy, this prop is trying to overturn a bill passed last year requiring Uber, Lyft, etc. to classify their workers as employees. The whole thing is being funded by these same companies, natch.
California's ballot propositions are a nice microcosm of the best and worst of direct democracy. On one hand, it broke up the state gerrymander. On the other, God help you if you suggest that people reaping massive home value windfalls should maybe pay some property tax.

Prop 22 is pretty much the same type of failure, obvious immediate direct benefit at the cost of screwing things up badly in a way that's way more visible to people whose job it is to make policy. And the 7/8 voting threshold is stupid, but you have to remember that voters see tying the legislature's hands as a feature, not a bug.

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OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

punk rebel ecks posted:

California just seems really dumb.
California gets a big rep as a liberal bastion but also has some of the most toxic NIMBY/old-money/general greed bullshit in the country.

To elaborate on the earlier point, the point of referendums is to tie the hands of the legislature. When that's to break up ossification and corruption in the actual political system, it works really well. When it's used to enact policies that normally require careful consideration of a lot of complex factors, a.k.a. the literal job of elected representatives, like screwing with the budget, it works horribly.

(That doesn't apply to establishing commissions/agencies, like the difference is, the government has to be able to functionally do its job. There's a difference between telling them what their objectives must be, and trying to do their job.)

OneEightHundred fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Nov 15, 2020

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