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Desdinova posted:Direct Democracy as it's been done in the past has failed, and this is largely due to as another poster made - people cba with going to a local meeting to vote on what day the bins get emptied. otoh: https://www.twitter.com
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2020 19:51 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 06:44 |
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Desdinova posted:That's a excellent point - we could all vote on a case, rather than a selection of 12. Group discussion of evidence, and people whose hobby it is to decipher legalese (if legalese isn't already voted away with) then a fairer trial could take place. If Direct, or Liquid Democracy is unanonymous then there votes would be a matter of record, potentially on a public website in a similar vein to China's, where their vote on "Black man on rape charge obvs guilty" is noted according to them, and the public react accordingly. I see absolutely nothing that can possibly go wrong with making life-or-death trial outcomes decided by the equivalent of a twitter poll quote:If we let the AGI continue to develop it stands to reason that it would evolve beyond it's biases, as some of us do.
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2020 19:42 |
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Desdinova posted:There could be checks of understanding in place quote:and weed out troll votes where people shitpost on someone's murder rap, but it could be a lot more in depth thatn *pah* twitter. Some forums work well with all the options they have available. This is something which 20 years ago people actually beleived: but a five minute glance at your Twitter and FB feed today will instantly disprove. Not only that but you are proposing getting rid of secret balloting entirely, and explicitly use the threat of popular retribution for voting against whatever the majority opinion is on any given topic to whip dissent into line. Which is to say the mechanism you have for enforcing "good" behavior is basically to automatically doxx everyone the instant they vote for anything. Even if you think this is a good idea for enforcing "correct" political views, it instantly breaks if 51% of FB userbase's political opinion is "wrong" at any given moment and the people on the "right" side of an issue is are now the victims of doxxing. It's rule by Twitter mob: which sounds worse than when the Athenian assembly voted to executed Socrates or their generals after Arginusae. quote:What's the film? Typo fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Sep 7, 2020 |
# ¿ Sep 7, 2020 19:51 |
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Desdinova posted:A version to test understanding, that could be performed (and passed) by the illiterate. how exactly does is this test suppose to work? quote:People on FB and Twitter feeds are trying to score emotional points with their arguments rather than logical ones, in a professional setting brainstorming can produce unprecedented effects. Take a look at [The Wisdom of Crowdshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds] - if people are placed together to solve a problem, many are better than one. quote:Either way, we get the democracy we deserve by it's constituents. Typo fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Sep 24, 2020 |
# ¿ Sep 24, 2020 21:03 |
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Desdinova posted:Regarding the 51% issue, one solution could be to require a supermajority on issues rated as high importance. For example. voting on someone's execution (if capital punishment was voted into place ) That wasn't the problem I described: the problem I described is that your mechanism for enforcing "correct" behavior through automatically doxing everyone who votes backfires if the majority have lovely political opinion
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2020 21:18 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 06:44 |
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Desdinova posted:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/880408582310776832 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/880410114456465411
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2020 21:14 |