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BougieBitch
Oct 2, 2013

Basic as hell

punk rebel ecks posted:

California just seems really dumb. Ballot propositions did great everywhere this election but there. Here in Oregon the propositions did more to enforce left wing politics than the do nothing Dems.

I'd say it's a pretty mixed bag everywhere, here in MA we had people vote against ranked-choice voting, so it seems to me that people are perfectly capable of hanging themselves with the lifeline you throw them any time you try something more complicated than "legalize weed" or "raise the minimum wage". Obviously those are worthwhile goals to pursue, but it's pretty clear that people aren't able to engage with stuff that can't be summarized in a sentence

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BougieBitch
Oct 2, 2013

Basic as hell

Mooseontheloose posted:

That was a problem with the Vote Yes on 2 people. Look at what towns voted for it and what towns didn't. The wealthier suburbs loved the idea, the Metro West voted for the idea but they couldn't get out of the wealthy suburbs, they didn't take any message or do any work outside of Greater Boston.

If the problem was just people not voting yes then sure, but the thing is that people had to specifically vote no. It's not just that people aren't informed, there's some kind of kneejerk reaction that make people default to whatever position sucks more instead of just leaving it blank

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