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Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

cant cook creole bream posted:

Powerful people lying to the mob to fill their own pockets is like the central essence of direct democracy.
I don't get why people keep saying this or the posts about the lovely laws passed via direct democracy.

Besides ignoring the good laws passed via direct democracy (legal weed in various states is a good recent example), we're not looking at it in isolation. It's a potential alternative to representative democracy, and everyone here is well aware of the many, MANY terrible laws passed via existing systems.

The question isn't "would direct democracy make for lovely laws?", it's "would direct democracy make for more lovely laws than the current setup?", which is already pretty loving lovely.

It's not clear to me that a greater reliance on direct democracy would be worse. Sometimes you get dumb populist measures yes; other times, as with weed, you get something good passed that has popular support but for whatever reason the establishment is deathly afraid of passing.

edit: some US states have propositions/referendums, some don't. Maybe it would be worth looking at whether one group has better laws on average.

Cicero fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Jun 19, 2020

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