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Yinlock posted:yeah it was something like that iirc. ironically it's also likely a major factor in why people think he's the Black Silence Wasn't it Angelica who was Black Silence first due to Roland mask? I thought he only took the mantle after her death and the fact that he got the gloves.
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KobunFan posted:Only counterpoint I thought to all that is: W-Corp Don Quixote seemed completely ignorant of how W-Corp trains work. And then she sees what normally happens on the loving things.
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Hey isn't one of the Heathcliff/Cathy pairs we get shown, well...  I was wondering when those got shown in like what possible context could that make sense, and the obvious answer at the time was: there's a really wacky Medieval-aesthetic Wing, but with the theory that just got posted...
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L.U.I.G.I posted:I do wish to point out that Roland mask make him difficult to recognize or something, seeing how his last dice is untargetable in the Black Silence Reception. I believe the artbook states that his mask makes it hard for people to perceive him, which is also why people mistake him for the Black Silence when he takes his wife's gloves out for a spin.
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KazigluBey posted:
I could believe that Dieci has a nun division. The colors fit at least.
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L.U.I.G.I posted:Wasn't it Angelica who was Black Silence first due to Roland mask? I thought he only took the mantle after her death and the fact that he got the gloves. He never officially got the mantle but iirc in-universe the two kind of blurred together in peoples' heads due to always working together + Roland's mask. Angelica was always the real Black Silence
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KazigluBey posted:Hey isn't one of the Heathcliff/Cathy pairs we get shown, well... I'm pretty sure the obvious answer is still the answer. It's an...interesting theory but it went off-track partway through trying to Connect Everything. Don in particular seems to get a lot of really wild ones for some reason. e: i'm a no-fun-allowed grump though Yinlock fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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KazigluBey posted:Hey isn't one of the Heathcliff/Cathy pairs we get shown, well... I mean it could be a hyper devergent mirror world where the setting is a medieval fantasy. They have been proven to exist in leviathan where there's a moment where Vergilius is refracted into a mirror world that's basically IRL and he expressed confusion on the existence of airliners. With the implication that aircraft doesn't exist in the city. Possibly because the head deems them illegal.
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Ghost Armor 1337 posted:I mean it could be a hyper devergent mirror world where the setting is a medieval fantasy. They have been proven to exist in leviathan where there's a moment where Vergilius is refracted into a mirror world that's basically IRL and he expressed confusion on the existence of airliners. The Head wouldn't like anyone getting higher than them, considering even the Star of the City can be cast down as Impurity. The cutscene do also reveal a High School AU so maybe we'll some of that during the April Fool Event someday?
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The idea that Don's name is actually Miguel seems to be pretty likely. With the play connection, her identity being entirely fabricated would make the most sense. It feels like one of those theories that's just waiting to be confirmed at this point, that she's not the 'real' Don Quixote, whether that means she's Miguel Cervantes, Sancho, or even Dulcinea(I would say Rocinante, but, well, we all know what Rocinante is).
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Numbus26 posted:The idea that Don's name is actually Miguel seems to be pretty likely. With the play connection, her identity being entirely fabricated would make the most sense. It feels like one of those theories that's just waiting to be confirmed at this point, that she's not the 'real' Don Quixote, whether that means she's Miguel Cervantes, Sancho, or even Dulcinea(I would say Rocinante, but, well, we all know what Rocinante is). If her name is Rocinante, does that mean Don's just horsing around?
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GilliamYaeger posted:Au contraire. She'd only have knowledge of how her trip on the Warp Train went, which going by her keeping up the charade would have been a somewhat rad time where she made lots of friends. "Warp trains are great!" would have been her experience. That's... quite a theory  Also, the Miguel thing could just be, you know, an Easter egg.
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Yinlock posted:Don in particular seems to get a lot of really wild ones for some reason. It makes sense because Don is probably the sinner that we know the least about right now. Combined with the fact that she's the 3rd sinner right after Yi Sang and her personality is a bit of a facade, it gives a lot of room to speculate. LostRook fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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L.U.I.G.I posted:The Head wouldn't like anyone getting higher than them, considering even the Star of the City can be cast down as Impurity. The cutscene do also reveal a High School AU so maybe we'll some of that during the April Fool Event someday? I think it's a basic safety thing. The sky is incredibly dangerous. Birds live there.
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https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1973530/view/4192364296364009742 Patch notes, with info about the event battle.   
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I've got so much lunacy just waiting for this moment, I'm ready to go broke for Malkuth 
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GilliamYaeger posted:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1973530/view/4192364296364009742 Huh. Weren't we getting MD4 as well? I guess either that will be another notice or it's getting delayed to next week so we aren't overwhelmed. The event being Fairy Festival suppression hopefully will mean more interesting missions than "kill everything every turn". microfolk posted:I've got so much lunacy just waiting for this moment, I'm ready to go broke for Malkuth Good news, they're adding announcers to pity. If you have 200 rolls saved up you can guarantee Malkuth.
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:Huh. Weren't we getting MD4 as well? I guess either that will be another notice or it's getting delayed to next week so we aren't overwhelmed. The event being Fairy Festival suppression hopefully will mean more interesting missions than "kill everything every turn". https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1973530/view/4192364296364102548 MD4 patch notes!  loving finally, result previews. Also holy hell, 92 new EGO Gifts. God drat.
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GilliamYaeger posted:We are! Nice of them to get rid of the randomness in starting EGO gifts since it was rather tiring to reset for Bloody Mist or whatever other fusion gift every week. Also nice of them to give you a starting boost for your first run to unlock whatever team you usually use's related gifts. And thank God for the fusion guide, I had to keep a memo open in another tab to know waht to look for.
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:Good news, they're adding announcers to pity. If you have 200 rolls saved up you can guarantee Malkuth.  !GilliamYaeger posted:We are!  Having to do 3 separate hard runs to get the most BP exp is awful, it's not a big difference (250 exp vs 225) but why!!!
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Wanna bring attention to this part of the patch notes:  Starting gifts rework. Not sure how I feel about this. EDIT:   TWO COIN EGO!!! And Bleed count doesn't go down and double Bleed potency! Also oh god that second coin has some amazing comedy potential. GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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Apparently I manifested the notice into existance. So now I will go and say new Heathcliff S4 000 ID next week, you're welcome  There are a lot of details to mention, too: -RIP to early fusion gifts, they're changing the starting selection so it gives more rare gifts but for different kinds. You also have to unlock categories with Starlight. -You can choose to do 3 MDH runs for an extra 25 exp in comparison to the weekly one. -New categories for Slash/Pierce/Blunt gifts. -92 new gifts, but going by the description some of them will be story dungeon/event gifts because those are kinds of floor packs. We'll see things like Mark of Cain or the BL/Kurokumo gifts back probably. -Extra starlight for not doing the same floors over and over. I'm still skipping Bull and MFE, thank you. -Rework of the Abno nodes, extra choices, balancing of check values and if an Abno was fightable you might see it on the extra choices/hard nodes. Enjoy Ambling Pearl everyone. -Refresh shops with Starlight. -Fusion now works by effect instead of Sin, meaning instead of Wrath+Wrath it's Burn+Burn for example. Does mean you might have to sacrifice lower tier gifts to get higher ones though. -MDN floor enemy buffs will be like Hard but less nasty.
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Numbus26 posted:SKILL 4???
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So now we have a brokenly OP Sinclair ID that inflicts Burn, drains Sanity and wants to be as close to -45 SP as possible and a (presumably) brokenly OP Sinclair ID that inflicts Burn, drains Sanity and wants to be as close to 45 SP as possible?
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L.U.I.G.I posted:The Head wouldn't like anyone getting higher than them, considering even the Star of the City can be cast down as Impurity. The cutscene do also reveal a High School AU so maybe we'll some of that during the April Fool Event someday? Honestly the whole concept of mirror worlds would actually provide some good excuse for collabs. Pm seems to show restraint on that front and they only do a small hint towards it's potential in the midsummer nights dream event
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Lt. Lizard posted:So now we have a brokenly OP Sinclair ID that inflicts Burn, drains Sanity and wants to be as close to -45 SP as possible and a (presumably) brokenly OP Sinclair ID that inflicts Burn, drains Sanity and wants to be as close to 45 SP as possible? The world of light and dark indeed. He slots way better into Burn team than N Corp Sinclair did. Plus the Burn team is good at wrath resonance. Red Shoes also makes Rodion better for a bleed team which in my mind means it's great for the N Corp squad. Especially because it helps make lust res chains more often. Wingbeat is bonkers amounts of heal and will be perfect for any tank identity Ishmael ever has for the rest of the game.
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nfaust continuing to be the best unit in Liu.
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TeeQueue posted:nfaust continuing to be the best unit in Liu. But then how could I use her with the n corp squad.
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Another powerful ID that you have to carefully cultivate if you don't want him to go batshit and start slaughtering your own team instead. Between this, Cinq, Jefe, and The One Who Shall Grip, I guess PM is pushing the message hard that if Sinclair ever got over his mental handicap, he'd be a color-level fixer. Doing it the wrong way tends to lead to him going insane, though...
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KobunFan posted:Another powerful ID that you have to carefully cultivate if you don't want him to go batshit and start slaughtering your own team instead. Between this, Cinq, Jefe, and The One Who Shall Grip, I guess PM is pushing the message hard that if Sinclair ever got over his mental handicap, he'd be a color-level fixer. Doing it the wrong way tends to lead to him going insane, though... Nah, this one can't go batshit and murder your team all on his own. His mechanics never take him that far below 0 sp, he'd need to lose sanity in other ways to really snap. He turns the EGO on at 45, and off at 0 and only drains SP when the EGO is on to give it a limited duration. You're right though that Sinclair's whole thing gameplay wise is huge swings between success and failure if managed wrong.
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KobunFan posted:Another powerful ID that you have to carefully cultivate if you don't want him to go batshit and start slaughtering your own team instead. Between this, Cinq, Jefe, and The One Who Shall Grip, I guess PM is pushing the message hard that if Sinclair ever got over his mental handicap, he'd be a color-level fixer. Doing it the wrong way tends to lead to him going insane, though... But yeah it's interesting that Sinclair's got powerful but mentally unstable IDs. Even Cinqlair has terrible self-confidence.
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GilliamYaeger posted:I don't think Philip's got anything that involves slaughting your own team - hitting 0 sanity results in him dropping out of EGO. I mean, his thematic core's always been being either the team newbie or so esoterically skilled he's disconnected from everyone, and also responding to extreme pressure by either freezing up or exploding. Getting him the most weird self-destructive IDs is a really neat way to feed into that.
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By the way Ritornello is an italian musical term for refrain and also indicates the bars in a musical sheet that have to be played twice (Ritornello = little return, to indicate you have to go back to the beginning of the ritornello and play it again until the end).
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From the looks of it though, if you don't count starlight gains I think you actually get more BP points per module by doing 1 MDH, claiming all of the bonuses from it, and then doing a single normal dungeon. GilliamYaeger posted:Starting gifts rework. Seems like it's going to be slash/blunt/pierce rather than ailment types, and you cannot reset over and over for tier IV gifts. It's in addition to ailment types, not rather than.
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microfolk posted:Having to do 3 separate hard runs to get the most BP exp is awful, it's not a big difference (250 exp vs 225) but why!!! Project Moon once again are amazing at math.  Arkanian posted:It's in addition to ailment types, not rather than.
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GilliamYaeger posted:Hard mode is not probably not going to be available at launch, this is about the normal dungeon weekly bonuses. You can choose to cash them all in at once like if you're running a hard dungeon now, and (like it is now) it'll probably work out to being better than running three individual runs if you do cash out + two more non-bonus runs? If a normal run is still worth 30 points, that'd give you 285 instead of the 250 on offer for doing three runs with bonuses. They literally say in the update nothing is being changed about normal mode dungeons in terms of reward structure. This is purely about giving the option to cash in the weekly bonuses 1 at a time in hard mode as well as in normal mode. You cannot cash in all 3 at once via a single normal mode run. As far as all 3 weeklies in 1 single hard + 1 normal. I'm almost certain that will cost more modules than the 3 hard mode runs would.
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:-RIP to early fusion gifts, they're changing the starting selection so it gives more rare gifts but for different kinds. You also have to unlock categories with Starlight. rip N-corp team anyway Hot Takes: Wingbeat Ishmael: Joined K Hong Lu in stealing Gregor's old niche. Is basically going to get to full health from anywhere but is going to annihilate her own SP to do it if she gets (un)lucky. Passive is amazing though Ishmael doesn't have a (good) tank ID to make use of it. Red Shoes Rodion: It's alright if somewhat resource-intensive since the corrosion is the only way it adds Count(and while the no-count-decrease is good, being "this turn" means that speed can render it moot due to bleed being enemy-dependent) Brave Sir Robin: Slots perfectly into the Liu team and even brings some Gloom to the table which they lack without Hong Lu. Volatile as hell as advertised. Seems to be a normal ID until 45 SP at which point he becomes N Sinclair for a few moves then goes back to normal. Really wants to win clashes in EGO mode to mitigate the SP drain but the [On Use] nature means he's inevitably going to gently caress up a roll somewhere important. Still, looks good. e: bonus ishmael funny: There's no cap on that coin reuse so she can potentially corrode from 45 SP. It's obviously insanely unlikely but still. Yinlock fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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