Theantero posted:

lf only you could talk to these Abnormalities, then perhaps you could try and make friends with them, form alliances... Now, that would be interesting.

TeeQueue posted:

The Cheshire Cat posted:

Look clearly they aren't dying, they're just being sent to a farm upstate. That's why Mountain doesn't get mad about it.

TeeQueue posted:

There comes a point in any aspiring manager's life where in addition to just deleting clerks, they tell themselves "I had seven casualties but it's meltdown level 8 and I cleared the mission I'm just going to call that a win."

That, I feel, is the final step in understanding what a dick the manager is.

TeeQueue posted:

Phase 3 of Binah spawns meltdowns like the other 2 phases, and THOSE can lower QC's to 0, but she doesn't do anything like that on her own. When that sort of thing happens to me it's usually because I did something like keep someone in flesh idol and forget to have them leave for too long or PUSHED THE BUTTON.

Hunt11 posted:

That is basically violent noon.

Lord_Magmar posted:

I’d like if the Oz things were a build up collection mechanic. You need either woodsman or scarecrow for the scaredy cat, and all three to get the road home.

I feel like the fact that WonderLab is clearly giving the aberrations and abnormalities it features mechanics that make sense in terms of the game make it likely all of them will be in LobCorp 2.

Theantero posted:

PM is great, but could really do with a couple lessons in tutorial design, yeah.

Nea posted:

I think there's really something to the tone of Ruina. It's like, the most edge-core hyper ridiculous over the top setting where someone can kill sixty dudes and you've probably bumped into rumors of 75 serial killers all of whom are real on your block and only the wealthy and powerful can do anything at all and it's all fighting just to climb out the crab bucket, MAN, in a way that bears absolutely no resemblance to reality or like, any sort of even kind of reflection of what the actual horrors of hosed up huge companies or the like are.

I kind of love it??? It appeals to some goth 15 year old still renting out space in my head. I made the vince face when I read the line talking about how not only were guns out of favor because it's really expensive to buy ammunition, but also because it's pretty common enough to be good enough to deflect bullets. That's a trait it can be reasonably expected you might run into, not like, a thing that only the sickest people in the world can do.

Theantero posted:

PM is pretty good at addressing the stuff that seems nonsensical at first later on. My own pet theory is that all the ludicrously over the top shittiness of everything has something directly to do with A Corp's Singularity.

Varinn posted:

The world being poo poo because of a secret technology making it that way would really gently caress up the world-building, imo. It's good sci-fi because you can see how all of it happens and how nobody can do anything to stop it. Everyone is being exploited by someone above them, and the way they can take the pressure off is by exploiting someone else below them. Push back, you get killed and replaced, the system adapts and survives. It's grim as poo poo, and I really like it. The conversation with Yesod where he and Roland have an argument about people being complacent about how the tech they use is built on human suffering is one of my favorite bits of Ruina so far because it hits home in a very particular way.


The plan was actually made pretty clear in LC. Deep LC spoilers: L Corp's Singularity wasn't extracting energy from Abnormalities, it was producing EGO, by way of them. At some point, you learn that the reason Random Agent #56 can suddenly duel with a sword is because EGO exists inside of all of our collective unconscious, and is a part of us. Carmen's idea was based on her belief that people were so ground down by society, they couldn't actually even allow themselves to dream of a better world. Ayin takes this idea and plans to release The Light for seven days, which would impart the ability to everyone to manifest their emotions and desires into EGO. A great equalizing effect of making us all demiurges or something. Is this what Carmen would've done? We have no idea. Probably not, because that sort of 'I'll just give everyone godlike powers and then immediately die' sounds like exactly the sort of plan a self-destructive recluse would come up with, but the ideals behind it are solid. Instead, everyone got halfway lit and, importantly, nobody was there to tell them what the gently caress just happened. Ruina gets into what that means for people.

The end of LC kicks rear end, and I just hit Star of the City in Ruina and I'm liking it just as much, if not more.

TeeQueue posted:

X is Ayin, erasing his memory and going through all of this in order to attain enlightenment.

He is very, very bad at it, which is why it takes him about 10,000 years to actually do it right.

Every X has always been Ayin erasing his memories and starting over until he completes the script he wrote-Binah actually calls him out on erasing his memories and forgetting problems being his go-to move one point in her story.

TeeQueue posted:

That's... Complicated, and based on what Keter is. To copy something from a website from someone who presumably knows more than me about this stuff:


It's the will that they're trying to enact, basically. Since the tree is in reverse and the suppressions are based on the manifestation of qlipa, that means the suppressions for days 46-50 are based on the qlipa of that sephirot. That would mean it's dealing with Thaumiel- which Wiki describes as... "While Keter is concerned with the unity of God, Thaumiel represents the dual contending forces, struggling, and it is represented by two giant heads with bat-like wings."

So basically the endgame is all the different conflicting parts of Ayin's will struggling with each other in order to decide what to do with the light they've gathered-arguably inside his head or being manifested due to the completeness of the light or by making copies with records and making them nap, etc etc etc. He's basically facing his persona-type shadows and beating it in a management contest to move on.

How it works exactly is questionable, but that's sort of what's going on meaning that X, who has these thoughts somewhere within him, is on some level an rear end in a top hat.

Intoluene posted:

Man, I want to get in to Library of Ruina but I feel like I have to beat Lobotomy Corp first at least once before I do that. I'm starting to get some ALEPH ranked anomalies that I really, really can't handle if they escape. Hell, Little Red escaping on its own is enough to make me reset the day and it's only a WAW. Two brand new anomalies are just outright killing any employee that dares to work with them and Queen Bee can also get completely out of control if I'm not on the ball with a Red Bullet when work finishes with her.

I may need to call my first run at day 25 and restart from Day 1 but sooooo much progress. Ugh.

Robindaybird posted:

If I pick up -31, I tend to put it in Central so it'd be super easy to deathball up all my middle-layer agents to melt it down fast when I see it's about to escape.

TeeQueue posted:

I feel it is worth mentioning that I could literally title the LP thread Everything is A's Fault, Actually: Let's Play Library of Ruina and this would be at most a slight exaggeration.

Acerbatus posted:

Doing the final Malkuth abnormality

rye on white posted:

lobotomy corp lategame question i'm coming up on the last round of core suppressions, would it be a better call to take fragment to be safe, or mountain for the gear, do you guys think?

Acerbatus posted:

In LoR is there:

Any way to sort Key Pages other than by grade

Any way to just mass unequip stuff?

I am deeply afraid the final boss will need 50 librarians.

e: Did anyone else's empty bookshelf button stop working?

Do people try to keep every floor equipped or just a few at a time?

StrixNebulosa posted:

In the same facility, where I gave up on like the second day with the Tiphs, I had:

The Cheshire Cat posted:

Yeah I had both Burrowing Heaven and Schadenfreude in my facility at the same time and boy did that make day 49 a pain.

Robindaybird posted:

The Train is especially nasty when you have a breach-prone abnormality such as -31.

I didn't have the same amount of trouble with the baby but I got it near end game where almost all my agents could easily handle it's work, but it's definitely a bitch if you get it early.

TeeQueue posted:

It's got a 60% instinct rate at Instinct 5, observation bonuses of +4% each at levels 1 and 3, and if you have 136 Attachment that's another +27%

It turns out that if you boost the success rate to 95% then you will almost never have problems with baby.

87% isn't that bad either when getting the bonuses initially.

therefore the answer is "touch fetus only after you get to where you can train to 130 stat."

Acerbatus posted:

So uh

If a summation mass attack hits 5 people

4 roll and they get a total of say 20, beating a 12

They still take damage if the fifth guy is stunned and doesn't roll? What?

Acerbatus posted:

ffs that needs to be rewritten and explains why I keep getting owned

Mass attacks force quick mode on so I never could get a good look at it. I turned off quick mode so I could understand how all the mechanics worked intentionally, game!

Reiterpallasch posted:

If you're not exploiting it yet, using the passive from (SOTC row 2) Myo's page that gives +1 bonus dice power based on how much faster you are than the dice you're clashing with turns Gebura into a monster who can actually reliably clash with the boss' cards. Also, bring either some cheap defensive cards you can use on your librarians to clash with Red's crappy dice or some ranged cards that are guaranteed to go first so the boss doesn't gain strength from winning clashes with its counter dice.

Also, the rest of the fight is a joke after you make it past phase 1. Try to push through it even if your libraries are beaten up and you have a death or two.

Acerbatus posted:

Is there any way to repeat abnormality fights for fun?

Acerbatus posted:

Final abno of Netzach:

Roland you didn't tell anyone about this?????

That was an unexpectedly easy fight. It's a bit, uh, pathetic? that Angela can't help but pine for Ayin after being stuck in her own personal hell for a million years, but I guess it's not her fault she was built to swoon over him.

Starting to think that A guy might be a jerk.

Acerbatus posted:

LoR simultaneously makes Angela way more and way less sympathetic, since it's 100% understandable why she did what she did but you're also now killing (sometimes) decent and uninvolved people.

SITB posted:

Ayin is also her creator who immediately spurned her, I'm pretty sure it's mostly about parental love more than anything; Benjamin trying to console Angela and helping her think that Ayin could accept her didn't help either.