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Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




almost there posted:

Lacan and Zizek 4 lyfe.

I'm wondering... Should Freud be considered leftist lit? For some reason it never seems to be brought up in most discussions like this despite zizek always making the list.

Freud isn't really that leftist or progressive. Totem and Taboos for example is all about the uneducated savage versus the noble and moderne westerner. I think that Edward Said should be om the list though.

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Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




I've read Said's book about Freud's Totem and Taboo and I don't really agree with it. Just because Totem and Taboo was tame for it's time doesn't mean it adds anything of value.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




almost there posted:

What? I didn't say it was tame for its time, where are you getting that?
My bad, read it on the phone and misread it it.

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Totem and taboo is making a broader point about desire and I think that's what you're missing here. Actually attempting to understand the basis for desire *is* the leftism part, since, ya know, culture of critique.
It is largely discredited though? Freud was just pulling theories out of his rear end and it isn't more based on actual fact than Jean-Jacques Rousseau's Discourse on Inequality. I'm not saying that Freud is worthless though, I really liked Civilization and Its Discontents.

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