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Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



It's framing of frame is done in a way that is obviously used for titillation, and not for any other reason, and it's explicitly racist given that it's author was explicitly racist about every in the 2chan thread that started it. But you know separate art from artist, not all weebs, but a Birth of a Nation had ground breaking cinematography etc.

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

youve just describe attack on titan, kino's journey, and getter robo somehow

for real nobody's saying you cant accuse it of being racist or sexist or using sexual assault in a horrible way but there's a difference between that and all its fans being 'chuds' which is demonstrably untrue at even a glance. people just wanna see a cool dude kill goblins. im not saying thats noble or morally correct just that it is what it is. liking goblin slayer is not really an indicator of any political opinion. its too disconnected from real life, unlike god's not dead which has an obvious real world moral to make.

Endorph fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Sep 30, 2020

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



There are really only so many ways for me to say it's framed and blocked like a porn not a normal scene if you're too illiterate to get it. Only the slippy due grappling devices and vore shots in AoT are given as much loving detail as the rape victim's titty in Goblin Slayer.

edit: Also God's Not Dead is super disconnected from reality. It is kinda funny to see the world weirdo conservative uncles actually believe in.

Terrible Opinions fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Sep 30, 2020

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

yes, it is, and its gross. nobodys disagreeing with that. im not sure how to explain to you that a lot of people is not at all cinematically, literarily, or textually literate and furthermore some people will just go 'huh thats weird' and keep watching because they wanna see the cool goblin kills. goblin slayer wasnt the next dbz or anything but it was broadly popular with more than just anime alt-right types. im not saying this is moral or good, just that it is true. the average person does not think about the politics of the things they consume, and even if they do, the average person is not that invested in the media they consume being political truth.

Endorph fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Sep 30, 2020

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



We're still talking about the people with whom it was popular enough to justify importing it, right? It was not broadly popular prior to animation.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Terrible Opinions posted:

We're still talking about the people with whom it was popular enough to justify importing it, right? It was not broadly popular prior to animation.
It was somewhat popular with online fan translation types. Not as popular as shield hero though.

Julias
Jun 24, 2012

Strum in a harmonizing quartet
I want to cause a revolution

What can I do? My savage
nature is beyond wild
Not everyone critically consumes their media Terrible Opinions. The people who decide to adapt this stuff usually don't have a political agendas beyond "will this turn a profit for us?" And generally the answer is yes.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Like literally my only exposure to it prior to animation was guys kramering into table top rpg threads to talk about it. Inevitably they were the same guys who would eventually start talking about giving stat changes for different human ethnicities and sexes, or ask how they could include rape in their games without being labelled "that guy".

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022
that sounds like an extremely niche audience sample not a broad representation of everyone who watched a show

Julias
Jun 24, 2012

Strum in a harmonizing quartet
I want to cause a revolution

What can I do? My savage
nature is beyond wild

Terrible Opinions posted:

Like literally my only exposure to it prior to animation was guys kramering into table top rpg threads to talk about it. Inevitably they were the same guys who would eventually start talking about giving stat changes for different human ethnicities and sexes, or ask how they could include rape in their games without being labelled "that guy".

Congrats, that guy was a sack of poo poo who liked it. Not all people who enjoy it are sacks of poo poo. That's what everyone is trying to get you to understand.

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

the world is magnitudes larger than the tiny sliver of niche audiences that you personally engage with on niche internet social gatherings

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Fine I'll eagerly await discussion of the anime adaptation of Gor.

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022
:rolleyes:

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Whether someone has right-wing beliefs is a good indicator of whether they will enjoy God is Not Dead because it's a political diatribe whose sole purpose is to affirm and promote a right-wing world view. While whether you like Goblin Slayer or Shield Hero is probably better predicted by whether you like unremarkable fantasy anime because that's what they are for most of their runtimes

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Terrible Opinions posted:

Fine I'll eagerly await discussion of the anime adaptation of Gor.
i read a webtoon that was basically yuri gor once, it was alright

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

for example last year i was chatting with some people a lot more 'normal' than most nerds who'd post on forums and a bunch of them absolutely loved the newer seasons of shokugeki no soma and nanatsu no taizai because they were so phenomenally good according to them.

Julias
Jun 24, 2012

Strum in a harmonizing quartet
I want to cause a revolution

What can I do? My savage
nature is beyond wild

Futaba Anzu posted:

for example last year i was chatting with some people a lot more 'normal' than most nerds who'd post on forums and a bunch of them absolutely loved the newer seasons of shokugeki no soma and nanatsu no taizai because they were so phenomenally good according to them.

They were definitely wrong about season 4 of 7 deadly sins, God was that animation flat out embarrassing and awful.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Seven Deadly Sins has a cute giant lady and even if it's bad, it's at least got that going for it.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Did the Some anime fix any of the dumb, dumb dumb poo poo from the manga?

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Wark Say posted:

Did the Some anime fix any of the dumb, dumb dumb poo poo from the manga?
they gave a few of the side characters anime-only arcs and tournaments and stuff but didnt change any of the actual main plot

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.
That Seven Deadly Sins child is an abomination

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

Terrible Opinions posted:

In the same way that "tons" of "normies" liked the Hills Have Eyes remake I guess.

Normies absolutely enjoyed the hills have eyes remake based on my highschool classmates when it came out

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Yeah wtf is that statement even lol.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

They made like 5x their budget back

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Endorph posted:

they gave a few of the side characters anime-only arcs and tournaments and stuff but didnt change any of the actual main plot
Like the plot kinda goes really dumb (and not always "dumb but fun!" kinda way) but that... sorta sounds fun? Maybe I'll give it a watch, even if I end up just wanting to cook stuff.

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

Wark Say posted:

I actually watched Goblin Slayer last year. It's an amazing show to watch while getting plastered + with your bandmates. Mind you, all I can legit remember is the drummer saying "Wow, the guild lady is hella cute!" (technically something like "¡Guau! ¡La chava del gremio está bien chula!" but y'know, localizing it for you peeps) and discovering an amazing flavor of popcorn that seems like it's been since discontinued here in Mexico, which is some bullshit :mad:

e: The melodeath bandmates, just to be clear (currently in 3 bands).

Your drummer is right, the guild lady is hella cute.

ninjewtsu
Oct 9, 2012

goblin slayer and shield hero are both gross as hell and i think less of people who are their fans, but i would not use enjoying those shows as the sole basis on which to judge a person, or a person's political views

admittedly i think far worse of shield hero fans than goblin slayer fans

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
heres my top 20 list of how much i distrust someone based on what show theyve watched

20: people who watch gobling slayer
19: people who watch shield hero
18:
17:
16: people who watch abunai sisters
15:
14:
13:
12:
11:
10:
9: people who watched cream lemon: ami's journey
5:
4:
3:
2: people who watch eat-man '98 but have never watched eat-man '97
1: people who watch every episode of one piece

The Colonel fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Sep 30, 2020

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





do you distrust them more with a higher numbered ranking?

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





I'm kinda being serious because I don't know any of those shows beyond what's discussed here

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!

starbucks hermit posted:

I'm kinda being serious because I don't know any of those shows beyond what's discussed here

cream lemon: ami's journey is the non-pornographic romance drama movie spinoff to cream lemon. eat-man '97 and '98 are two anime adaptations of the manga eat-man, airing in 1997 and 1998 respectively, they center around a man who can eat anything. one piece is a popular shounen manga by eiichirou oda, its anime adaptation currently numbers at 943 episodes, with 16 movies.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

What's so good about eat-man 97?

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!

SyntheticPolygon posted:

What's so good about eat-man 97?

https://files.catbox.moe/54t5c7.mp4

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





The Colonel posted:

cream lemon: ami's journey is the non-pornographic romance drama movie spinoff to cream lemon. eat-man '97 and '98 are two anime adaptations of the manga eat-man, airing in 1997 and 1998 respectively, they center around a man who can eat anything. one piece is a popular shounen manga by eiichirou oda, its anime adaptation currently numbers at 943 episodes, with 16 movies.

So, if someone wanted to earn your max distrust via anime watching, they just need to watch all of one piece?

Thank you for the overview of your listed animes.

Kinda thankful that you didn't recap abunai sisters. I don't get a good feeling about it.

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016






I can't help but think of Suwako's stage song (touhou)

Ibblebibble posted:

Your drummer is right, the guild lady is hella cute.

If you wake up as an isekai protagonist and the guild girl isn't cute then you're breaking new ground here

reincarnated into another world where a goddess wants me to level up quickly but I don't want to because the guild lady isn't cute is my next username after Jeffrey buys the forums

Space Flower
Sep 10, 2014

by Games Forum

starbucks hermit posted:

I can't help but think of Suwako's stage song (touhou)

ah yeah i hear that bit

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
i'm the weirdo who still watches one piece, but i have engaged with zero side content, and i watch one piece in 1-2 year bursts of episodes on one pace lol.

people tell me i should just read the manga, but you can't listen to a manga while falling asleep so gently caress that noise

Lt. Lizard
Apr 28, 2013

Irony Be My Shield posted:

Whether someone has right-wing beliefs is a good indicator of whether they will enjoy God is Not Dead because it's a political diatribe whose sole purpose is to affirm and promote a right-wing world view. While whether you like Goblin Slayer or Shield Hero is probably better predicted by whether you like unremarkable fantasy anime because that's what they are for most of their runtimes

As you said, if you disregard their unsavory parts, both Goblin Slayer and Shield Hero are completely mediocre at best and there are scores of animes that do the same thing, but better and without being so obviously gross. So if someone is a huge fan and raves about them to me, I can't help but to make assumption that it wasn't the unremarkable fantasy tropes, or run-of-the-mill isekai elements that caused them to have so strongly positive impression about those shows. And while that by itself obviously doesn't make the person a right-wing chud, it does kiiiiinda point in that direction.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
i think i'm gonna make a hgiurashi 2020 thread

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The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
i posted higu

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3942397

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