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Indiana_Krom posted:I think that only applies to L2 cables. DCFC cables will probably always be permanently attached because they require liquid cooling to handle the 600+ amps it takes while still being light and flexible enough for ordinary people to use.  Correct, it's only the AC part
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I haven’t seen anyone talking about it, but one of the most interesting Rivian features is that the optional rooftop tent they sell gets power and A/C from the car below. A feature which as far as I can tell no one else has. Granted, it’s a pretty niche use case, but it’s still really cool.
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Talorat posted:I haven’t seen anyone talking about it, but one of the most interesting Rivian features is that the optional rooftop tent they sell gets power and A/C from the car below. A feature which as far as I can tell no one else has. Granted, it’s a pretty niche use case, but it’s still really cool. Is that one of those roof platform tents you see on the various overlanding rigs? I haven’t seen one on a rivian yet but I’m sure I will because those kind of things are super popular here for outdoorsy types. Usually on a Tacoma or 4Runner.
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Kia Soul Enthusias posted:Every single cable cut off at the charging station I stopped at today. :facepalm: The note on Plugshare said the cables were lying on the ground (I read it after I arrived, obviously). So they didn't steal the cables...just vandalized? you in a gentrifying area? could be someone keeping the rent down
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I wouldn't put it down to anything more conspiratorial than just scrotes being scrotes. If you put a completely unattended fuel pump in the back corner of the same parking lot, how long you figure that would last before it gets hosed up?
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Seems like having the cable in the car and the charger point just being a plug would be more secure.
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Deteriorata posted:Seems like having the cable in the car and the charger point just being a plug would be more secure. With copper being one of the more desirable things to steal for drug money, I'm honestly really surprised how seldom I see L2 stations with their cords cut around here, I wonder if the copper thieves know they're deenergized when not plugged in. The local hardware stores have their wire under (3) lock(s) and key, a camera that beeps at you while displaying a picture of your face, and the employee who gets the wire for you has to escort you to the register. Kia Soul Enthusias posted:Yeah L3. Thicc. "Only" 100kw. I wanted to see if I could really hit 174 amps on Chademo like Bjorn Nyland. I'm sure nobody was plugged in at the time of the cut though. Some good news for you and other small box enjoyers, looks like Kia's going all box for their next round of cheap EVs. I'd imagine the US won't get the EV2, but hopefully we get the EV3 https://electrek.co/2024/04/19/kias-15000-ev2-caught-in-wild-most-affordable-ev-video/ E: saw an EV9 yesterday, that's a big SUV, looks like it's about Tahoe sized. Elviscat fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Apr 20, 2024 |
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I'm really hoping there is enough of a business case for the smaller vehicles. I feel like where we live I see lots of Bolts, Fits, and other small things (in addition to lots of crossovers, of course). They're all discontinued anyway in lieu of bigger vehicles. Last time I was at some auto show thing the rep suggested a Kia Niro instead of the Soul, and nope...doesn't fit the bill for me.
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:Gat drat that 1980s-rear end interior is getting to me in al the right ways Elder Millennials are now the ones designing cars. Retrofuturism 80s vehicles are going to be the new hotness. 
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At the L2 chargers at work seen a few different vehicles and the F150 lightnings are by far the largest I’ve seen on there! Looks like the EV9 is about a foot shorter than a Tahoe: https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/kia-ev9-2023-suv-vs-chevrolet-tahoe-2020-suv/ They’re definitely not small but for a 3 row suv they’re not huge. Similar in size to an R1S, but I have seen reviewers say the rivian loses some space in the upper passenger area because it tapers more. But it does have a wayyyy bigger frunk.
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FlapYoJacks posted:Elder Millennials are now the ones designing cars. Retrofuturism 80s vehicles are going to be the new hotness. On the brown part of the dashboard near the steering wheel you can see that it is pre-pitted that looks like those old interiors did after 6 or so years of driving in the sun.
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Leasing a 2024 Leaf SV Plus for $100/month ($2K down, 10K miles/year, 2 years) — is there any reason not to do this? I’d only use it around the city, only charge at home, and have an ICE car for longer trips and fun driving etc.
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grahm posted:Leasing a 2024 Leaf SV Plus for $100/month ($2K down, 10K miles/year, 2 years) — is there any reason not to do this? Doesn't sound bad at all! Lots of people have car payments nine times that.
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I mean, that's cheap as poo poo, and a lease avoids the Leaf's battery issues. It's a fantastic little commuter car.
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grahm posted:Leasing a 2024 Leaf SV Plus for $100/month ($2K down, 10K miles/year, 2 years) — is there any reason not to do this? That sounds ridiculously cheap. Does Nissan think the Leaf is only going to lose $4k in value over two years? If you've got free charging, that's basically a free car*. *compared to driving a roughly equivalent ICE car. Finger Prince fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Apr 21, 2024 |
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the only thing that gives me pause is the term you didn't list: the mileage overage. if you think you'll get anywhere near it, you should consider that too. but even if it's something insane like $1/mile that might still be worth it. there's also the insurance requirements; be sure to get a quote in case they're insane too like a $100 deductible on comp and collision or something
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I bought a Niro EV. 2022, with 16 K miles. Decent warranties, lots of tax breaks and a very nice drive. Still, horrified it's going to explode due to the previous owner storing Greek fire in the trunk or some poo poo. Hate buying used cars.
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priznat posted:At the L2 chargers at work seen a few different vehicles and the F150 lightnings are by far the largest I’ve seen on there! I parked my Lightning next to a Rivian at work on Friday and yeah... I didn't realize how much smaller they were until then. I've seen them in person a few times but it just didn't register until it disappeared behind my truck as I walked inside.
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:I parked my Lightning next to a Rivian at work on Friday and yeah... I didn't realize how much smaller they were until then. I've seen them in person a few times but it just didn't register until it disappeared behind my truck as I walked inside. The R1Ts seem really small, the S seems larger despite I think being the same length guess just because of the greenhouse on the back I'm still shocked by how large a recent F150 is, gas or electric! I remember when they were much smaller, and that wasn't that long ago!
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priznat posted:The R1Ts seem really small, the S seems larger despite I think being the same length guess just because of the greenhouse on the back The irony is I sat in a R1T at their store and though it was ungainly and enormous and there's no way I would feel comfortable driving something that big on the road. Then again, I drive a Golf.
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I should specify, they seem small in comparison to other trucks.. Although stuff like the Ford Maverick seems like a good size.
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The R1T is smaller than a F150 and bigger than a Tacoma.
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priznat posted:I should specify, they seem small in comparison to other trucks.. Although stuff like the Ford Maverick seems like a good size.
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I will hear no ill talk of the Maverick. You are all on warning.
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the maverick is still frankly too big to truly differentiate itself from midsize pickups. Like it looks small and tidy next to an F150 or bigger, but park it next to a sedan or small hatch and it still looks quite big by comparison. It’s still based on a similar platform to a Ford Escape and it’s sized like a large SUV with two rows of seats and a 5’ bed behind them. Unless you stick to the hybrid/FWD the value proposition in terms of size or fuel economy vs something like a Ranger or even one of the incoming Tacomas just isn’t there. The AWD models, especially the lifted one, you’re lucky if you pull MPG in the mid-to-high 20s. For sure there’s a benefit to building it off of a crossover platform instead of a “real” truck platform WRT the truck’s road manners, but otherwise it seems like putting any options at all on a Maverick is just an exercise in being upsold to a Ranger. You lose out on street performance, which might matter if you use the truck to commute, but the Ranger’s so much more capable as a truck for a comparatively negligible hit in fuel economy. I understand why Rivian didn’t debut an R2T, with how the R1T is kind of at the lower limit for comfortably sizing a “modern” “full-size” pickup truck and providing enough comfortable seating room in back, and an even more “midsize” truck would probably fit in more garages/etc but at the expense of dangerously diluting their production resources, but I do hope someday they show off something Subaru BRAT/Baja-sized. Make an R3T. Or an R4T that fits somewhere between the R3 and R2
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grahm posted:Leasing a 2024 Leaf SV Plus for $100/month ($2K down, 10K miles/year, 2 years) — is there any reason not to do this? Reminds me of my egolf deal. Think it was like 1k down and 110/mo. Best deal I ever got. Is the leaf still on chademo? God I hope not.
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Small trucks are great. Give me a modern, electric s-10. That’d be a great third car. With V2G capabilities I wouldn’t mind that I drove it so rarely.
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ilkhan posted:The Maverick is perfectly sized for getting groceries and hauling bags of soil for your downtown apartment's balcony garden. lol no it isn't, it's comically oversized for that. a 1982 datsun pickup is perfectly sized for that
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drhankmccoyphd posted:Reminds me of my egolf deal. Think it was like 1k down and 110/mo. Best deal I ever got. It sure is! I would plan to only charge at home, though — and maybe even only with the included Level 1 charger. I don’t have a commute for work so it would really just be for errands and around town driving.
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Cactus Ghost posted:lol no it isn't, it's comically oversized for that. a 1982 datsun pickup is perfectly sized for that mom said it's my turn to say kei truck in the somethingawful ev thread
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The Maverick is like the perfect size for a homeowner who needs to haul trash and lumber and stuff occasionally, but still wants to get 30+ MPG on their commute into work, and it's easier to drive and a lot lower to the ground than the current crop of "1/4 tons". E: I traded my Bolt for a coworker's Maverick for a few days, it was nice.
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Cactus Ghost posted:lol no it isn't, it's comically oversized for that. a 1982 datsun pickup is perfectly sized for that New ranger can do it, but the back seat is a major step down from an F-150 (100% fold vs 60/40 (and kid in car seat makes that a big deal when trying to carry kid+stuff in the cab), Ranger has tiny cubbies underneath instead of a flat floor, etc). I really wish they'd made a ranger lightning instead of an F-150 lightning. It would play to the dimensions' strengths much better. People don't try to tow 10k lbs behind a Ranger/Tacoma.
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ATAB
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ilkhan posted:Not making GBS threads on the maverick, it's fine and inexpensive. But it's not a full sized truck and it isn't supposed to be one. There's nothing about the maverick that you couldn't do with a Bronco Sport. "Truck" usability requires fitting a plywood sheet flat between the wheel wells, to me (and many others). If you routinely transfer things that are tall, an open bed has serious advantages. The stuff I take whenever I go camping fits easily into a short-bed pickup, but wouldn't fit into a van or SUV at all.
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ilkhan posted:The Maverick is perfectly sized for getting groceries and hauling bags of soil for your downtown apartment's balcony garden. The maverick would be the perfect in-between "truck" if the modern Ranger wasn't so fat. That being said I would probably buy an EV ranger OR Mav in a heartbeat. The turning radius on my Lightning is awful and makes parking such a pain. Gnoman posted:If you routinely transfer things that are tall, an open bed has serious advantages. The stuff I take whenever I go camping fits easily into a short-bed pickup, but wouldn't fit into a van or SUV at all. The sky's the limit.  GnarlyCharlie4u fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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ilkhan posted:"Truck" usability requires fitting a plywood sheet flat between the wheel wells, to me (and many others). Uh yeah domestic truck manufacturers don't build those anymore unless it's the stripper work truck package. It's all mega crew cabs with an ~average dick inches worth of bed.
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