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I love Volvos and want an electric car, but I have been told that the Polestar is way overpriced for the performance it offers (particularly the range). I was pointed toward the ID.4 and Ioniq 5. Ioniq 5 looks better (in several ways). An electric V50 would be my ideal car. I dislike SUVs but lol America. I have a 5 mile daily commute and access to free chargers at work. I drive the 350 miles from LA to Oakland every 1-2 months, and I would prefer a car that doesn't have to stop multiple times along the way. I am not militantly anti-Tesla, but I hate the lack of dash and physical controls. Does Ioniq 5 fit? Are there alternatives I'm overlooking? This is a new consumer space for me. It doesn't need to be zippy. I'm trying to talk myself down from AWD and HUDs and such. I've lived without those things my whole life; my 2005 S40 2.4i is the best thing I've ever driven.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2022 01:57 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 02:04 |
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So if the act passes, Tesla 3 becomes a no-brainer, in part because nothing else will be available. Will it go into effect immediately?everyone posted:Just the info/guidance I needed You are all amazing and beautiful and I love you. In general it looks like I need to get over my aversion to SUVs and Teslas. gently caress this stupid country for only offering giant idiotmobiles. I want a small idiotmobile, goddamnit. I'm annoyed that other places get things like the ID.3 and Q2. Bleh. I'm gonna test drive the Ioniq and Polestar, for sure. It's a 15 minute drive to the LA Polestar space. Renting a car for a weekend is definitely also doable. The one-stop Oakland trip in the Model 3 is really hard to ignore.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2022 03:56 |
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I've talked myself down from Teslas and Polestars. Based on my commute, parking situation, and finances, an i3 seems like a solid choice. What I've learned so far:
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I drive ~5 miles every day. I can rent a car to get to Oakland. I would not qualify for the $4k used car credit. Life, in general, is beautiful.
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2022 17:51 |
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5 mile commute interspersed with occasional cross-LA drives. I can't install a charger at my apartment, though I have free access to a J-1772 a block away. I'd bike to work if Los Angeles weren't Los Angeles, but I need a new car anyhow.quote:You speak words of wisdom. I want a backup camera mostly because I've never had one before. I'm already gud Also I've never experienced the pain of owning a BMW, so that might skew my judgement. Normal Barbarian fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Aug 10, 2022 |
# ¿ Aug 10, 2022 18:18 |
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Well yeah but does your first-hand experience outweigh my aversion to American cars? Does it? gently caress those tires, though. Holy poo poo there are ~60k mile Leafs for around $7000. High holy hell, are they cancerous or something? Also a RAV4. And Fiat 500s. And Mitsubishi I, all for less than $10k. Where do I go to find out which of these cars are worthwhile? gently caress me, I have to actually read this thread, don't I?
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2022 20:11 |
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I once again want to thank y'all for all the info, particularly the owners of cars under consideration (Polestars, Leafs, Bolts, e-Golf, i3, etc.) What I've learned so far:
I've had three votes of confidence for the e-Golf, and I know somebody who has kept theirs since buying it new in 2015, so I'm gonna check them out. I haven't totally ruled out the i3. I should take a look at Bolts. Is the Ford Focus Electric a garbage compliance car? I've just learned that it's built on the same platform as the S40, so it's the closest thing to "my car, but electric" out there. It's also American and Ford instead of Swedish* and Volvo, but so it goes. Normal Barbarian fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Aug 11, 2022 |
# ¿ Aug 11, 2022 07:38 |
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Charging the car at my apartment would require a hundred feet of extension cord, and it would likely preclude using the AC or microwave. Apartment is old, wiring is questionable. Not charging at home could be a deal breaker, yes, but I feel like I could make it work with free charging ~0.5 miles away and also at work. Honestly I should probably just convince MY GIRLFRIEND to let me bike to work. Normal Barbarian fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Aug 11, 2022 |
# ¿ Aug 11, 2022 07:42 |
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Yep, my EV dream is looking increasingly like a wet fart. Thanks for helping me figure that out, if it indeed turns out to be the case
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2022 16:21 |
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cruft posted:Another thing to bear in mind, if you care about such things, is that you wishing you could have an EV and things just not being set up for that to be feasible is itself helping the global situation. You're contributing to demand. This is a really nice sentiment, thank you
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2022 03:12 |
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borkencode posted:Tesla Model 3 So, will the reinstated credit drive down used prices, too? I would want one that still has radar (hypothetically, in a year or two).
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2022 19:37 |
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I have half a mind to spam California's legislature with Air quality and all that.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2022 21:44 |
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Nfcknblvbl posted:That bill is useless for a lot of EVs thanks to the rising costs. We’ll done, politicians. It's almost like the senator who has taken millions from oil companies wanted this to happen. cruft posted:Be sure to sign it "Normal Barbarian", okay? Well yeah, it'll hit harder coming from a posting genius. Gotta use my clout somehow, might as well be for a good cause. Normal Barbarian fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Aug 13, 2022 |
# ¿ Aug 13, 2022 00:28 |
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Shower thoughts reality check: There is no reason to buy a 2021 Bolt. It won't get any rebate this year or next. There are dozens of dealerships with new 2021 Bolts. Is it insane to think I could find a dealership who'd let me drive one off for ~< $20k cash? A Premier, hopefully.
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2022 07:54 |
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darnon posted:If you find a used one it should qualify for the $4k credit I think. I will (most likely) be making too much for that, alas. Wow betide me. Walrusmaster posted:For an anecdotal data point, I bought a 2021 bolt in April of 2021 for $19k, but that included a $2k CA rebate and ~$3500 trade-in. You might be in the ballpark? Oh cool, do you miss any of the features you'd have gotten with the Premier, specifically the surround-view cameras? Did it take any effort/stress to get that price? Also, yes. Blue car supremacy. That's a pretty blue, too, though I've started coming around in the garish Oasis Blue, too.
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2022 21:16 |
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Now that I know what I'm looking for, I see EVs everywhere. Saw one of the Volvos a couple days ago, saw a Polestar last night. I see i3s almost daily. Bolts are a bit more stealth but I can pick them out. Millions of Teslas. West LA is rife with them. This isn't a bad thing, minus the whole running down children thing.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2022 16:15 |
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Saw another Polestar on my way to work yesterday. Saw a Rivian on my way home. Caught a glimpse of an Ioniq today. Looked chonky. Somebody on my way to work got a red Bolt, which looks surprisingly okay. Somebody in my apartment building, who previously owned a Prius, got this thing. I wonder how they charge it. Note the wiring. I envy. I also saw a first-gen Mirai, but that's outside the scope of this thread, probably.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2022 23:09 |
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https://www.hotcars.com/2024-hyundai-kona-electric-best-budget-crossover/ posted:the Kona has been enlarged, with a 150mm longer body, 25mm wider stance, and a 60mm longer wheelbase Why even bother making small cars when they'll all end up the size of an Excursion in a few model years? Christ. No, I don't know metric. Shut up.
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# ¿ Dec 26, 2022 07:29 |
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QuarkJets posted:The Kona already feels pretty big, if you want a small car that's not it. e: sloshed, disregard Normal Barbarian fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Dec 26, 2022 |
# ¿ Dec 26, 2022 09:05 |
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OctaMurk posted:Please come to america You'd think people would see how the Bolt is selling and want in on that. e. Americans buy Golfs, right? Why not ID.2s? e2. Call it a crossover. Call it an SUV if you have to. Normal Barbarian fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Mar 16, 2023 |
# ¿ Mar 16, 2023 22:27 |
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priznat posted:Ooh Volvo is going to show the EX30 in early June, looks like an EV version of the C30 which is awesome. Hope it has the funky rear glass hatch! gently caress me sideways. Hope they sell it in America, that I might get a used one ten years from now.
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# ¿ May 9, 2023 21:29 |
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priznat posted:I saw a Model 3 in an awesome iridescent wrap, you should get that My girlfriend says it's the only way to make a Tesla sexy. Also, I finally saw an EV6. Its weird hatch-ish duck butt is over-designed and stupid looking but I think I kinda like it
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# ¿ May 16, 2023 05:11 |
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Per interior discussion from a bit back, the inside of the Ioniq 5 is TARDIS-huge. Utterly cavernous. I'm 5'10", and it felt like there were several feet between my head and the ceiling and my legs and the passenger seat
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# ¿ May 21, 2023 20:34 |
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Resonance22 posted:Is it too late to post cats in EVs? What an absurd and beautiful cat! Please make it my first ever probe (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 10:11 |
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guess I'll daydream about DIY EX30 HUDs instead
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2023 19:07 |
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I saw two VW Buzzes painted solid dark grey/blue, and without the two-tone paint they look aggressively neutral. Distressingly unimpressive in any stylistic direction. Love the pics with the white tops, love what they are. Really want to see one in flower power paint or maybe done up as a surf wagon? Also, 1st gen Leafs are steatopygous. That is all.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2023 08:32 |
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There's something to be said for knowing how to use a hilariously out-of-date Thomas Guide, probably Right?
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2023 05:46 |
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The Slack Lagoon posted:What do you do in your car other than drive it? Cry, mostly.
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2023 17:50 |
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:At least here in California I think the dealer is required to give you a front license plate holder, even if the car did not come with one. And it looks absolutely loving hilarious bolted dead center on an i4's grille(s) "iconic" design element plus afterthought compliance bodge Normal Barbarian fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Jan 8, 2024 |
# ¿ Jan 8, 2024 06:25 |
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Everyone knows San Bruno's where it's at. (Assuming you don't get exploded) Normal Barbarian fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Feb 29, 2024 |
# ¿ Feb 29, 2024 04:32 |
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Hybrids are allowed/welcome here Yo if anyone has a Polestar 1 they'd like to get rid of for like, 20%-30% of what it's worth, I'm your guy hmu
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 05:12 |
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You have to have been a Costco member as of April 30 this year. Trust me, I looked. e. I might still go for it. I'll just be really loving annoyed.
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# ¿ May 3, 2024 06:24 |
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I;m thinking about thos Polestar 2s Facts
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# ¿ May 4, 2024 11:50 |
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Finger Prince posted:I saw a white polestar the other day, never seen a white one before (maybe popular in hot climates?). It looks really good in white. AWD is dual-motor, yep. 4.3s 0-60 vs 5.9s RWD. I wanna go fast, but I don't gotta go fast. White is cool and striking, but white cars become dust-greige cars overnight where I park. If I were paying for paint it would be a tossup between the silver-metallic, grey-metallic, and grey/blue metallic. I loving love the Swedish rainbow.
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# ¿ May 4, 2024 21:39 |
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drk posted:gently caress that, why not fly or comedy answer take the train? I drive when I'm lugging tools/cars to a diy robocars race. Otherwise, yes. Fly. Also, I like BART. The novelty of functional* public transit has yet to wear off. Normal Barbarian fucked around with this message at 21:56 on May 4, 2024 |
# ¿ May 4, 2024 21:44 |
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:So I looked pretty thoroughly at getting a P2 about 1.5 years ago. At the time they had a lot of issues: Thanks for this; that post wasn't overlong at all. I'm increasingly aware that all software is horrible and broken. God help our end users. I'm 5'10" and slim, so we're good there. I'm leasing a new one for that 10k deal and as a concession to first-BEV anxieties. Plus, I've spent 20 years driving and fixing tired old used cars. I sorta want something new for once, you know? QuarkJets posted:The seats with the plus pack are also top notch, the material is nice and is much easier to clean than cloth or leather. I think there's one other polestar owner in the thread, but I don't know if they got the plus pack Thanks for this, too. I've toyed with the idea of getting a model 3, but that's entirely off the table now. As for acceleration, my current car would have done 0-60 in ~11 seconds brand new, 19 years ago. 5.9 seconds will be a rocket in comparison.
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# ¿ May 4, 2024 22:40 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 02:04 |
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priznat posted:Polestars don't come in bad rear end colours like that though so MG takes the win! My kingdom for Polestar Blue e:fb e2: though it should be exclusive (and compulsorily) to the Performance Pack and Polestar Engineered Normal Barbarian fucked around with this message at 06:22 on May 5, 2024 |
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