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Why are all the US and European auto companies focusing on luxury EVs? Only affordable EVs are coming out of Asia.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2020 17:51 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 16:19 |
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https://youtu.be/upk1S-ATV6g There's always the new Kandi K23! 180 mile range on a 41.4kw battery. About 20k after incentives. GlassEye-Boy fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Aug 22, 2020 |
# ¿ Aug 22, 2020 04:12 |
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Tesla Competitor Admits It Rolled Semi Truck Prototype Down a Hill in 2018 Promo Because It Couldn’t Drive https://futurism.com/nikola-motors-one-semi-truck-couldnt-drive?fbclid=IwAR0As_ixaHzcPf5_20bajm2IYZcfLvl_DQpUdHE5EOgqyrNTBtD9cz2SyyY Yikes, not a great look for Nikola.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2020 02:30 |
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Eat My Ghastly rear end posted:Three windshield wipers But is the windshield bullet proof?
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2020 06:02 |
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MomJeans420 posted:Interesting interview with the MTA bus president on the challenges of going fully electric on buses. Really shouldn't be a challenge. China and other countries have had electrified bus fleets for years now.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2020 23:22 |
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Ola posted:Same is true for bicycles, where velocity squared is much lower, yet they spend huge amounts of resources on streamlining everything. Also a way to sell ever more expensive and over designed bicycles.
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2020 20:36 |
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Ola posted:Which makes you really wonder why motorcycle manufacturers aren't doing it. Ducati Hyperaero would sell like whoa. I guess with the mortorcycke you e got other talking points like horse power, torque, etc which have a much bigger impact on performance while with a bicycle it’s uhh how good you are at pedaling. So all their effort is put into how this new design will make your pedaling better.
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2020 20:59 |
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Looks like there's finally a EV wagon! The MG 5 EV, looks delightfully practical... too bad it's not coming to the US. Sigh
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2020 03:07 |
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VideoGameVet posted:It's a FORD MACH-E Yea, but it's got a proper wagon rear end, none of that slopped hatch business.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2020 04:14 |
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NIO just launched their ET7 sedan. Looks impressive. Different battery pack options with a future 150kwh version having a NEDC range of over 1000km. Has a dual motor system with a 180kw PMM motor in front and 300kw induction motor for the rear. 0-100 sprint in 3.9s. Seems to be packed with some impressive tech. https://youtu.be/IB-nGyrQa4g GlassEye-Boy fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Jan 10, 2021 |
# ¿ Jan 10, 2021 02:39 |
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harperdc posted:Battery swaps will have trouble until everyone is using the exact same size and input of battery packs. Battery swapping is apparently finding a home in China but that has solved some of the problems. I think battery swap fits the Chinese market well. Almost no one lives in a single family home and home charging is a challenge. If NIO or whoever can build up a battery swap infrastructure it can work very well combined with standard charging stations.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2021 05:22 |
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Olympic Mathlete posted:It would be fun to drive up and have the machinery just take a chunk out of your car because it doesn't know wtf to do though. If batteries were like AAs in the bottom of a cheap RC car I'd be like "yeah this idea is good" but they're clearly not for a variety of reasons you've mentioned already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxqhd4FkP0c Stupid or not, it's already being done over in china. Can see how it turns out for them. GlassEye-Boy fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Mar 5, 2021 |
# ¿ Mar 5, 2021 17:12 |
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NitroSpazzz posted:Buying i3 new when you could have a Tesla or similar for the same price is stupid. Grab a few year old one for 10-12k and have a pretty good daily driver that can technically do road trips, easy with range extender, if you wanted to for some reason. How do the batteries hold up after 3 or 4 years? I've no experience, but going by other batteries, once they've been used for a while they lose quite a bit of capacity.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2021 23:21 |
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Charles posted:i3 is liquid cooled, so if they let you charge to just 80-90% or so, you should get a good life out of them, if they're decent quality cells. Leafs, which are entirely passively air cooled can suffer pretty heavy degradation. Kia Souls which are also air cooled, although assisted with a fan / cabin air, do better, but still conk out in Arizona like climates. Thanks! Good information. Sucks that Teslabjorn got the COVID, lol.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2021 01:21 |
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RZA Encryption posted:I had no idea they were still making new i3s. A 2021 BEV with 153 mi range for $45k. That is wild. Apparently they only sold 1,508 of them in 2020. The LAPD got hoodwinked into buying a whole fleet of these and are now trying to get rid of them.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2021 19:30 |
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This looks to be my ideal truck (size and styling), but not sure it's ever going to see the light of day. https://electrek.co/2021/03/12/secr...ITWXWjXOG68dh-Y quote:
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2021 21:51 |
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mobby_6kl posted:As cool as that looks, how many are they expecting to sell? A few dozen? A hundred? I can't imagine the market for lifted 80s EV minitruck/UTEs is all that big, which is a problem if they ever want to make money. I'll buy one lol
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2021 02:22 |
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DoomTrainPhD posted:Because making a brand new electric vehicle from scratch is incredibly difficult to do? The entire drivetrain and electrical system are different than ICE cars, let alone the safety regulations. You also need new assembly lines to make the electric motors and other things that make up that system. That's how you end up with a 60k entry price or whatever Rivian trucks are priced at. Not everything has to be bespoke and optimized for maximum performance. Surely there are more off the shelf solutions.
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2021 00:26 |
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Charles posted:Legacy automakers can adapt EV tech to their ICE platforms, but my 2017 Kia Soul EV, which doesn't have any advanced self-driving like features, has an air-cooled 27kwh battery, still had an MSRP of ~37k in 2017. There's no one simple trick to make things cheaper, though yeah, it would be better if you could get off the shelf solutions for driving aids from Bosch or whomever. That's just it, why does a EV need driving aids? I know automakers make all their profits from these add ons, but there is no inherent reason why we need to stuff all this tech into a EV. Guess I just don't get some of the decisions the auto industry is making. The new Jeep Wagoneer is over a 100k. GlassEye-Boy fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Mar 14, 2021 |
# ¿ Mar 14, 2021 04:02 |
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Godholio posted:I mean... Hah yea...
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2021 04:36 |
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Mzuri posted:I'm shopping for an EV to replace my aging tiny Suzuki for commuting and day trips. Are they selling MGs in Europe? MG 5 EV seems like it'll fit your needs. Station wagon layout with a storage space in the back big enough for any dog.
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# ¿ May 9, 2021 22:27 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Storage is not very hard, you don't get YOUR battery back you just get A battery. The number you need as spares is really low compared to the number of units in operation you have. You could manage the demand problem pretty effectively by using fast charging for the batteries once they come off the cars that are coming in. If a swap takes 5 minutes and a full charge takes four hours, you need at most 48 inventoried batteries for each swap position to ensure that there's always a battery for the customer. Hardly insurmountable inventory and space problems. And this isn’t even theoretical anymore. Nio is already widely implementing swap stations throughout china. The Gen 2 swap stations hold 13 batteries in storage and can do a max of 312 swaps in a day. The stations aren’t even that big, about the size of 2 shipping containers. Here’s a great video showing the first and second generation swapping stations as well as a breakdown of their advantages and disadvantages. Kind of long winded but has some good info such as the breakdown of costs compared to DC fast charge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k_G8CwY1rU GlassEye-Boy fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Jun 26, 2021 |
# ¿ Jun 26, 2021 05:00 |
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any Swedish goons try the BYD or Xpeng EV's yet?
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2021 16:25 |
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Wish these were coming to the US. Sub-16k EV hatch with blade batteries NEDC 405km range. BYD EA1/Dolphin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63wCfqSQp8c GlassEye-Boy fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Oct 12, 2021 |
# ¿ Oct 12, 2021 18:55 |
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LionArcher posted:Nobody in here taking about the Toyota EV’s they announced? Shameful. Are these the ones that are based off of the BYD platform? Could be cool, byd has some interesting battery tech.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2021 03:46 |
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MrOnBicycle posted:Yup that’s the one. Apparently not an EV, but yeah looking at the website it looks better than the MG. Lynk and Co's EV will be under the Zeeker brand name.
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2021 05:23 |
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Nfcknblvbl posted:The main downside to buying a Tesla at the moment is they're kind of long in the tooth on their development cycle. Who knows when their next generation of batteries comes along, and their lack of 800V charging capabilities means newer EVs (like the EV6) have better DCFC curves. How many software features do you really need in a car though?
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2022 01:06 |
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gwrtheyrn posted:Why would you not coat your EV in EVOO instead? Lower smoke point, if your EV reaches high speeds the friction will cause it to smoke too much, increasing drag. You really want to implement a high smoke point oil for best efficiency. GlassEye-Boy fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Apr 18, 2022 |
# ¿ Apr 18, 2022 18:52 |
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simplefish posted:I'm started looking at the MG ZS EV and seriously considering it. Everything I've read is that it's a good capable EV, nothing fancy but you'll get a lot for the money. Probably best to just test drive one.
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# ¿ May 20, 2022 16:14 |
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I personally don't want Google or Apple anywhere near my car.
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2022 03:23 |
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MustardFacial posted:If you want an EV sedan and don't want a Tesla and can't afford any of the German options, it's pretty much your only choice. if your in the US.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2022 20:27 |
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I mean, no ones fills their trunk with ice and shrimp, why would you do it with your frunk??
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2022 19:45 |
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mobby_6kl posted:Good news, we have an EV wagon! This is like a 2 or 3 year old platform, which could explain the lower mileage. Latest MG electric hatch seems to be getting rave reviews with close to 300mile range. https://youtu.be/ad0coz3o01c GlassEye-Boy fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Nov 7, 2022 |
# ¿ Nov 7, 2022 07:26 |
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Speleothing posted:I was not aware of any EV school bus companies. It's an obvious choice, since the routes are not very long. Did you see any manufacturer info? Looks like the bus from a company called Green Power Motor Company, never heard of the, fire.
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# ¿ Dec 27, 2022 16:42 |
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mobby_6kl posted:Speaking of rails, has anyone tried an EV bus... but on rails yet? Seems like that might work pretty well and be mostly self-driving. Your basically describing this, but with the added hassles of actual rails. https://www.ladbible.com/news/interesting-china-has-self-driving-train-that-doesnt-use-tracks-20210519
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# ¿ Dec 31, 2022 17:30 |
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BYD just launched their new upscale brand Yangwang. Two models so far U8 SUV and U9 super car? https://cnevpost.com/2023/01/05/byd-launches-yangwang-brand-debuts-suv-u8-supercar-u9/ not a huge fan of the face, rest looks pretty good. some interesting tech. https://carnewschina.com/2023/01/05/byd-yangwang-u8-r1-launched-in-china/ GlassEye-Boy fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jan 5, 2023 |
# ¿ Jan 5, 2023 18:30 |
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Tell me about this because I'm not really seeing an equivalent to the Model 3 or Polestar 2 here There are plenty, just not in the US.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2023 00:39 |
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Anything specifically, aside from that abominable VinFast thing or the Chinese models that aren't here for safety reasons? What safety reasons would those be? Anything from BYD, NIO, Xpeng etc will have better build quality than a Tesla and similar safety to any other car maker out there. NIO et5, BYD Seal, and Xpeng P7 are all sedans which compare well to a Tesla model 3 while being quite a bit cheaper, or at least were before the Tesla price drop in China. Chinese models aren’t in the US is based purely on politics and protectionism. GlassEye-Boy fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Jan 7, 2023 |
# ¿ Jan 7, 2023 01:18 |
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Just get a Chang Li, it’s got doors and everything!
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2023 01:57 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 16:19 |
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Personal trucks for the most part are absurd, may as well go fully ridiculous with the design.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2023 04:25 |