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Indiana_Krom posted:Yup, an EVSE is a glorified extension cord, the only thing it does that isn't just a feature of an ordinary extension cord is telling the vehicle how big of an outlet it is plugged in to. maybe in countries that require extension cords to be fused, or to be rated to the same as the standard household circuit they'll be plugged into, but in the US household circuits have 20A breakers on them and the overwhelming majority of extension cords are only rated to 15A. that probably still doesn't justify the cost of an evse but overcurrent protection isn't nothing
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2023 01:47 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 23:54 |
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dissss posted:I don't know how people stand the Leaf with eco mode on - it doesn't help with range and only makes the throttle inputs really laggy compared to virtually any other car. i haven't driven a leaf but my 2015 prius does something similar with eco mode, and i grew to like it once i got used to the idea that i had to hit the pedal a second or so sooner on freeway onramps. the greater precision the throttle curve allowed for is great. normal ICE throttle is heavily biased toward the low end just because that's the nature of butterfly valves, but with drive by wire you can make the curve whatever you want, even with regular ICEs
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2023 07:50 |
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the way to account for green energy credit is to ignore it, or just assume its coal
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2023 09:24 |
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didnt the first-gen leaf have like 40 miles of range
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2024 22:57 |
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there's never going to be a useful comparison tool until the government comes up with one the automakers are required to publish, like they did with the epa mpg tests until then it'll all just be whichever is most flattering to each particular model
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2024 03:58 |
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op git rekkd
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2024 05:04 |
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hydrogen is good for one thing: making weird nerds extremely mad on something awful dot com
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2024 18:53 |
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after the containment issues got solved ~8-ish years ago they had to move on from sputtering EMBRITTTHLEMENTH there was kind of a lull for a a couple years after that & before batteries caught up, but now hydrogen has become a word grenade again Cactus Ghost fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Feb 10, 2024 |
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Three Olives posted:Hydrogen was always an petro astroturf campaign because hydrogen is a byproduct of fracking and where almost all of our industrial hydrogen comes from. Biden changed the rules saying the only way hydrogen gets federal subsidies is if it is produced by electrolysis from new green energy production so no one gives a poo poo anymore. It was always a scam to call fracking "green". i mean, it's also a scam to call bevs "green", at least while we're getting 3/4 of our power from fossil fuel
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2024 07:50 |
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like, yes they're a huge step up from blanketing our living spaces with soot and benzene, but by that metric, so are fuel cells
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2024 07:53 |
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i think what's ultimately made batteries more successful is that the distribution infrastructure essentially all already exists, and the technology of batteries scales down better than fuel cells, meaning there's been way more advancement coming, for essentially free, from other industries like consumer electronics
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2024 07:59 |
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Celexi posted:fuel cells are not even remotely close to the efficiency of a BEV, so even if your source is carbon you will still use less. and as was mentioned prior the amount of fossil fuel for electricity is much smaller than that. what was mentioned prior was coal, which is about ten percent of US power. oil and natural gas are about a third each, with renewables and fission rounding out the rest
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2024 08:03 |
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it is weird to me that california and japan were the two major state funders of fuel cell tech, given that they're among the world's heaviest users of renewable and nuclear, respectively
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2024 08:09 |
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QuarkJets posted:What threshold qualifies? US electricity generation from green sources is around 40%, but in some places it's a lot higher than that - in CA electricity generation is close to 55% green, in OR it's over 50% green, and in WA it's over 80% (!!) green. i mean, if you want some kind of arbitrary line to say this is green and that isn't, you can put it anywhere you want, because "green" is a nebulous concept and everything commonly used to define it (like sustainability, destruction of the natural environment, or emission of fossil carbon) is a gradient. i just think it's silly to draw that line with fuel cells on one side of it and batteries on the other, especially when the reason given is use of fossil carbon
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2024 08:40 |
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Celexi posted:it isn't silly when fuel cells have like a quarter of the efficiency of a battery, even if you start with gasoline and green aside you are getting close to 100% efficiency with a battery while you are getting a fraction of that with fuel cell cool dude, we have different opinions about where the silly line is on the "green" spectrum. that's ok. calm down Cactus Ghost fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Feb 11, 2024 |
# ¿ Feb 11, 2024 22:00 |
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how dare you suggest my consumer purchases come with compromises. you absolute monster. have you considered these other purchases i have also made. dril tweet
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2024 00:34 |
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Bone Crimes posted:just another way evs are superior. nah they'll use something more stable, maybe even lead-acid. or at least, something way smaller. it isn't like derby cars now use a big sixteen gallon tank full to the brim, they use tiny little 1 gallon bladders inside a heavy steel box what'll be weird is not having a radiator to kill. they'll just bash into each other until... i guess until the wheels fall off?
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2024 07:14 |
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"everyone sucks at driving except me" -everyone e: i do agree though that it is buck-wild some of the poo poo you see when it snows in places that don't usually see it. last year where i am we got six inches (we get snow every year but it rarely sticks) and there were plenty of doofuses with a big truck who thought 4wd magically meant you could still drive at freeway speeds on country roads Cactus Ghost fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Feb 16, 2024 |
# ¿ Feb 16, 2024 16:59 |
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:I lived in Minnesota for 11.5 years and I was always amazed at the amount of people who would simply forget that it snows there every year and forget how to drive in it for the first month of winter. i think that really illustrates a big truth about lovely drivers: most of them are just normal, adequate drivers rendered situationally stupid by their own impatience i know whenever i didnt budget enough time for conditions there's a little gremlin on my shoulder screaming "GO FASTER ITLL BE FINE YOURE GONNA BE LATE" the whole time and most of the trip is spent telling him "i'll be even later if i slide into an orphanage"
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2024 03:42 |
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i'm still reeling from the whiplash of going from non-union service jobs where calling in sick could get me fired, to a union healthcare job where i can just actually stay home if i get sick, and not only do i not get threatened with termination, i still get paid
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2024 09:15 |
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why a truck? just wanted a truck? not being a wiseass, just curious since you only mentioned commuting
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2024 12:19 |
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:I can really only have one vehicle right now. My normal everyday use is just commuting 26 miles to/from work each way. i figured it was for that sort of homeownery type stuff. how much room is in the trunk?
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2024 12:28 |
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the above poster doesn't consider tradespeople to be "people" or even "consumers". when he says "everyone", he means "wannabe rich suburbanites" because he is unable to conceptualize any experience other than his own
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2024 20:37 |
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i guess maybe evs have gear oil in the diffs?
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2024 22:41 |
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ROFLBOT posted:Crappy public transport that takes twice as long plus the daily threat of weird social interactions with strangers/personal space infringers i mean, if you're trying to compare the worst possible version of things to the best possible version, why not add some road head to the second one
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2024 13:30 |
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Tom Guycot posted:I don't know if its just people not having lived anywhere with good public transport, or everyone working in suburbs and office parks, yes
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2024 16:39 |
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ROFLBOT posted:Yeah obviously everyone's experience is different, on my ~50km commute i average around 60-70km/h , its nearly all highway driving i mean, sure, but the ability to commute between them by car undoubtedly influenced the location of one or the other (or both) ends of your commute. people who can't drive don't just throw up their hands and decide to deal with three hours of sitting on the bus each way to work. they move and/or find work closer to where they want to live. There absolutely is societal influence on these decisions but your commute is not an inevitability. Transit being a poo poo options is due to both the services available being intentionally bad and there being other things that are more important to you.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2024 03:30 |
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ROFLBOT posted:My area of expertise is specialised enough that i cant afford to pick and choose the location where i work. The ideal solution would be to WFH but there is a noticeable employer pushback on this now that COVID is no longer a big thing and as my work involves a bit of hands-on it would never be 100% remote anyway it wasn't an attack to say there are things more important to you than not driving. "i already live in a house i like and that meets my needs" or even simply "not dealing with moving and making the kids change schools" are both examples of things it'd be kinda unusual to value less than not driving. my point was just that, well, yeah of course if you're willing and able to drive chances are real good the commute you settle on is going to have lovely options for transit. you didn't choose it for transit accessibility. if you weren't willing or able to drive, you'd have a different commute, either because you had a different destination, or a different origin. you'd also have far fewer options for either, which is where the societal part comes in Cactus Ghost fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Feb 26, 2024 |
# ¿ Feb 26, 2024 05:51 |
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kill me now posted:Yes, niche versions of niche vehicles are usually big sellers niche versions with 95% parts commonality with the base vehicle are generally a good idea. that's why every automaker has like three cars with fifty trim levels each. but with convertibles the parts commonality doesn't include "the chassis" and that causes a shitton of extra expenses getting it safety certified
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2024 02:46 |
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i cant wait to see whatever the ev version of the superbike-swapped drag smart is
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2024 03:03 |
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kill me now posted:As they say, the juice isn’t worth the squeeze on this one. yeah it weirdly means that starting with a convertible-only design like the miata and adding a flimsy fixed roof or a retractable hardtop ends up preferable, since it's all the same chassis and the rollover protection is already there
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2024 05:27 |
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Three Olives posted:I've attempted to formulate into words why using an installed EVSE designed for mounted use is extremely obviously preferable for most users, assuming the install isn't too burdensome, and I say that as someone that went half a decade charging my EVs on a 120 outlet in an awkward spot in our garage but if you can't see the obvious reasons why someone would prefer one over the other... i mean, i can see the obvious reasons you would prefer one over the other
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2024 09:07 |
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ilkhan posted:That truck is a million times preferable to me than that hideous little swiss mini thing. i mean, it's a moped. that isn't a boast lol
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2024 14:30 |
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god drat i cannot wait to be able to buy an electric swiss tuktuk
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2024 16:39 |
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iirc apple's goal was a car so autonomous it didn't have manual controls, and yeah lol that aint happening in this lifetime
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2024 22:07 |
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how the gently caress are ev chargers not common carriers? that any manufacturer can have their own proprietary transportation infrastructure is dumb as hell i know the answer is "us antitrust law no longer exists" but cmon
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2024 22:37 |
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"you'll like it more than living in palo alto" buddy as long as it doesn't punch me in the nuts more than once a week you got that in the bag
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# ¿ Feb 29, 2024 04:14 |
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Zero One posted:Ford Super Van 4.2 EV shames exotic sports cars in timed lap hell yeah. reminds me of the renault espace f1. idk if any race van will ever top that one but this is a strong contender
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# ¿ Feb 29, 2024 16:22 |
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Psycho Society posted:ambulance meta about to pop off i doubt we'll ever see widespread adoption of battery-only emergency vehicles. the ability to idle for hours running 400A of accessories matters, and some form of ICE in the system buys a lot of flexibility for comparatively little cost/weight/volume.
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# ¿ Feb 29, 2024 18:20 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 23:54 |
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trilobite terror posted:yeah even in like the most EV-optimistic future I think emergency vehicles and probably cops single-handedly keep ICE cars alive it'll be a chunk at least. anything where energy density is a major nonnegotiable requirement is probably always gonna be internal combustion, assuming complex-molecule fuel cells aren't feasible if we can ever get a viable fuel cell to run on a biofuel with an established supply chain, like ethanol, straight vegetable oil, or biodiesel, that may change Cactus Ghost fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Feb 29, 2024 |
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