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Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
What have you found best for anti-mosquito stuff? I like taking walks but often I'll skip because the mosquitos are so bad around here and I end up with a thousand bites, and I guess whatever spray I bought doesn't work great.

edit: I swear I clicked a thread tag. Oh well.

Emmideer fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Jul 17, 2020

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HungryMedusa
Apr 28, 2003


One million percent DEET is the only thing that works for me. I am super open to suggestions tho

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer
camping in my hazmat suit to own the skeeters

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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Box fan is seriously the best. They're not strong fliers and will avoid the wind

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


QuickbreathFinisher posted:

Box fan is seriously the best. They're not strong fliers and will avoid the wind

There are some li-ion battery powered ones coming out now that are super cool looking and I 100% want one the next time I go spend a night camping.

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer
i dont like to use bug spray, but idk what else to do

i thought i could just wear long pants, but the mosquito just shoved her proboscis right thru the fabric and bit me in the rear end

HungryMedusa
Apr 28, 2003


I have had friends wash their clothes in permethrin and it seemed to work. The problem is those darn skeeters can still bite your ankles/hands/face that are not covered. It might be worth a try if you have the same clothes you walk or camp in. I don't think I would like soaking all of my wardrobe in bug repellent.

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Different places have different species of mosquitoes as well, they all die the same but they're significantly more aggressive and even dangerous (because of various diseases) depending where you are so do your research. I'm a fan of DEET, long sleeves, pants, and shoes vs say a t-shirt, shorts, and sandals, and citronella candles. Those tennis racket shaped bugzappers are also very effective.

Dread Head
Aug 1, 2005

0-#01
If I am going to the alpine I will often take a bug net to hand out under. For bug spray I moved away from deet to 20% Icaridin, seems to work just as well and does not destroy certain materials like deet does.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE
Mosquito tip: take loratadine (Claritin) or some other similar long-lasting non-drowsy allergy medication. Helps tremendously with itching from the inevitable mosquito bites.

Coxswain Balls
Jun 4, 2001

Dread Head posted:

If I am going to the alpine I will often take a bug net to hand out under. For bug spray I moved away from deet to 20% Icaridin, seems to work just as well and does not destroy certain materials like deet does.

Gonna give this a try. I stopped using regular bug spray and just wore a mesh jacket when I found out it eats away at synthetics, which explained why a lot of my older clothes fell apart. Is permethrin also safe to use with most fabrics?

I got my first rifle with muzzle brake a few months ago and finding out the concussion from the brake repelled all the mosquitoes in a couple meter diameter sphere around me was a neat discovery.

https://youtu.be/seb0XNp0TDg

free hubcaps
Oct 12, 2009

i can live with mosquitos because compared to the deer flies around here they are positively pleasant

HamAdams
Jun 29, 2018

yospos
In my experience just make your blood tasty as nasty as possible, helps keep the skeeters and black flies away

Kase Im Licht
Jan 26, 2001
For 5 days in the Amazon we did: Permethrin sprayed on all clothing, always wore pants and long sleeves, DEET on all exposed surfaces, hats, citronella wristbands, citronella thing clipped to my bag. Worked incredibly well and got zero bites while geared up. What happened when I took my shirt off outside the mosquito net in the middle of the night is a different story.

Roumba
Jun 29, 2005
Buglord
I don't know much about sprays and other repellent options, but a bucket hat plus one of those headnets allows me to not have a care in the world about any bug that doesn't bite. Keeping those jerks out of your face and ears is half of the battle.

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer

Relevant Tangent posted:

Different places have different species of mosquitoes as well, they all die the same but they're significantly more aggressive and even dangerous (because of various diseases) depending where you are so do your research. I'm a fan of DEET, long sleeves, pants, and shoes vs say a t-shirt, shorts, and sandals, and citronella candles. Those tennis racket shaped bugzappers are also very effective.

oh man a bug racket would be so cathartic

Kase Im Licht posted:

For 5 days in the Amazon we did: Permethrin sprayed on all clothing, always wore pants and long sleeves, DEET on all exposed surfaces, hats, citronella wristbands, citronella thing clipped to my bag. Worked incredibly well and got zero bites while geared up. What happened when I took my shirt off outside the mosquito net in the middle of the night is a different story.

good post. i would wanna take my bug racket (and plenty of spare batteries) into the amazon and just rack up a zillion m-m-mmulti-kills

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

I feel like in the Amazon the bug racket might kill some rare species of bug. Mosquitoes you can murder guilt-free.

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer

Relevant Tangent posted:

I feel like in the Amazon the bug racket might kill some rare species of bug. Mosquitoes you can murder guilt-free.

hm but what if a bat or a dragonfly has to go hungry because i overcooked their dinner? :thunk:

Thunder Moose
Mar 7, 2015

S.J.C.

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

Box fan is seriously the best. They're not strong fliers and will avoid the wind

Yep - a fan works wonders.

Now, if you're out hiking that's obviously less than ideal.

Deet works well, they also hate citrus oils or smoke.

Loose fitting clothing makes it harder for them to bite you, pale colored clothing acts as a kind of camouflage, sort of.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

If you don't mind walking around in bug spray I've found the Deep Woods brand by OFF! works pretty well

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Coat every fabric you are taking out there with you in permethrin, honestly. Even poo poo like canvas chairs and tents and all that. I do it for every camping trip and it sustains me even in the swampy hellhole that is Florida's interior.

Morbus
May 18, 2004

No method works 100% but you can get pretty good results by using multiple strategies together

-Cover as much of yourself as possible with clothing, and if weather permits, tightly woven nylon or similar fabric that will prevent bites from getting through is best. I like to use long pants, long shirt, a buff, and fingerless sun gloves.

-Treat all clothing with permethrin.

-Before heading out, treat clothing with DEET or picardin also. 100% DEET is the best but often overkill. I prefer picardin since it isn't oily and doesn't stink

-Put DEET or picardin on bare skin.

-Head net is indispensable for really buggy situations. I like the kind foldable wide brim hat kind.

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Picardin/DEET is a good defence, but much like the sun, the best defence is clothing. Good thick shirts/pants can stop mosquito bites short and then tack onto that DEET/Picardin on bare skin, and permetherin on your clothes. On top of stopping mosquitoes from biting you, it also stops ticks from wanting to crawl up in your stuff. Ticks are, in my book, about a 1000% worse because a mosquito bite is generally pretty low impact but a tick bite can have life-long problems, especially if you live in/around Minnesota. And inspecting yourself for ticks is annoying.

Completely seconding the head net for buggy situations/sleeping in mummy bags. There was one time backpacking in Washington (which is basically a swamp with beautiful mountains and the occasional grizzly sighting) that I neglected the head net during one nights rest. I woke up with a forehead that was swollen like I had rubbed poison oak all over it before I went to bed. If all else fails, put your rain gear on. Good rain gear will generally be thick enough to keep mosquitoes from biting your skin.

Tias
May 25, 2008

Pictured: the patron saint of internet political arguments (probably)

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Permethrin is only available as OTC ointment for skin parasites in my country, I can't smear that on my clothes, can I :confused:

MistressMeeps
Dec 27, 2017
If you're looking to clear an area of mosquitoes for camping or hanging out, there's neat zone repellers that are scentless. The one we use is a Thermacell that we grabbed at REI. It works great as long as it's not too windy.

MistressMeeps fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Jul 18, 2020

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




Tell me more about the zapper rackets. I'd never taken them seriously, but something like that might be useful in my backyard if it really works. I end up with a cloud of mosquitos around my ankles if I'm out there for any length of time.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

HungryMedusa posted:

One million percent DEET is the only thing that works for me. I am super open to suggestions tho

:hmmyes:

owls or something
Jul 7, 2003

HamAdams posted:

In my experience just make your blood tasty as nasty as possible, helps keep the skeeters and black flies away

Wouldn't they have to bite you to find out you taste bad?

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


Fitzy Fitz posted:

Tell me more about the zapper rackets. I'd never taken them seriously, but something like that might be useful in my backyard if it really works. I end up with a cloud of mosquitos around my ankles if I'm out there for any length of time.

I don't think they'll help much for large numbers outdoors, it won't scare then off or anything.


I finally gave in and got a net for our bed, and do t regret it at all. Way better than trying to keep them out.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




I guess I was just wondering if I could kill a cloud of mosquitos with it. I have all the sprays, but sometimes I don't want to put those on just for a minute of yard work. It's also as hot as the sun and as muggy as a swamp, so long clothes are torture.

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
has anyone used the Thermacell products? I've heard they are good but I don't want to take the plunge, it seems so pricy for the refills - about .75 cents per hour. But on the other hand if I can use that to be comfortable and camp in northern ontario before mid july it kind of is worth is. it just depends if they work.

thehandtruck
Mar 5, 2006

the thing about the jews is,
Are any of these mosquito repellents non-toxic? I'm a bit worried about EDC's and carcinogens and stuff like that.

Ihmemies
Oct 6, 2012

Thermacells are all sold out in Finland. They are super popular. I guess you can refill the gas cylinders with butane? And whatever chemical those pads have, you can order off-brand ones online. I don't own the product so I don't know what exactly to buy but apparently you don't have to buy the super expensive original refills.

Kazak_Hstan
Apr 28, 2014

Grimey Drawer
Ben’s 100 or gtfo. Numb up your lips.

Thermacells seems to work pretty well for sitting around.

If I’m using stuff that doesn’t play will with deet, like rubber gaskets on drysuits, expensive shells, etc., I just cover up as much skin as possible and tough my way through it.

Bi-la kaifa
Feb 4, 2011

Space maggots.

Here our only option is DEET, except for a few brands that advertise bug repelling clothing, which I think is just soaked in permethrin. I wish they just sold the permethrin here so I can douse all my poo poo in it but apparently it's really bad for the marine life. Not sure how the big brands get away with it though.

Koboje
Sep 20, 2005

Quack
Physically preventing the mosquitos access to my skin has been the only foolproof way for me, any and all bug/mosquito repellents have failed to be at all satisfactory. Standing still and reaching out with my DEET treated hand nets me a mosquito on it within 10 seconds in a mosquito area.

So whenever it is high mosquito risk it is full coverage and head net, and then laugh like a villain at the swarm of mosquitos flying around my impenetrable net. Mosquitos and horseflies generally bother me more than others, both in the "they go for me more" way and the "I can't relax if i know a mosquito is within my immediate vicinity" way, yes I probably smell and that is what is attracting them, through even DEET smell and others.

The Zone area Thermocell feels like they have potential though, will consider getting one soon.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

owls or something posted:

Wouldn't they have to bite you to find out you taste bad?

The first few mosquitoes will give it a bad yelp review.

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015

The most effective bug repellent I ever used was what the Army was issuing to us. During my military service I was stationed in a swamp/river biome, just off the borders with Turkey at Evros. The mosquito problem in the summer was a bit ridiculous. I mean, you were lighting a cigarette and had 2-3 of the fuckers falling down, burned by the lighter popping.

To cut the long story short, each one of us was given a stinky liquid in a non-descript white plastic container to use. It was produced by the Army itself. It stank to high hell, but as soon as you applied it to skin (and - most importantly - on the helmet) the mosquitoes promptly and rapidly hosed off. I have 0 idea what this thing contained, and I'm pretty sure I may die from butt cancer because of using it. But it worked like a charm, and I wish I could know what it was and could buy it on the market now.

ps: Speaking of the helmets, there was once a general coming to visit/inspect our unit. So the brass had us doing chores to make the center presentable, and one of them was to paint our helmets with new paint (the Hellenic Army did not use helmet covers back then, well at least not in my unit). The general came, everything went well and when the night came we doused ourselves with bug juice as customary for going out to guard duty.

The next day every helmet in the unit was stripped bare of paint, for some undescribable reason. :v:

Dante80 fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Jul 18, 2020

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


I've switched from DEET to Picaridin, 20%. I've found the black flies dislike it where they kind of ignored DEET. I'm located in Northern Michigan in the midst of hardcore mosquito territory. For extra nasty days I still wear a head net and a wide brim hat. Buddy of mine does culvert surveys and keeps a gallon jug of the Picaridin and things it's the greatest thing ever.

Thermacell seems to be real situational. I found mine works OK if it's in a protected area without much of a breeze. Electric swatters are great for that one fly that gets in, hearing them sizzle is awesome.

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