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Silly Burrito posted:Had an idea last night and wanted to run it by you all. Hopefully this is not needed and we pick up two more teams before the 30th. In the event that we don't, I had two thoughts on what we should do. I'm sure we don't want to turn this into an 18 team league, so..... I just plugged it in a SA-based discord, but I feel like it'd make way more sense to do 1 than 2 - if we don't get any takers, I might float it to an IRL friend and buy them an account here after the sale's officially done
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Aug 18, 2020 15:31
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Not a fan of ghost teams. Going from previous years the autodraft does not know how to draft for 20 teams and it is almost guaranteed they do not have a QB, plus it will be an advantage for whatever divisions have them. We still have some time, I think we hold out for a few more days for goons, then I am ok with non-goons (ideally someone known rather than a rando from reddit, but I guess that can be a last resort).
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Aug 18, 2020 15:42
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I've tried to get a couple of goons I know to join -- but it's harder than I would have guessed to get people on board. I'd vote 1 -- but ... "break glass in case of emergency" -- solution 2 seems fine too. ---- Although in solution 2 it does seem quite likely that this person would be starting Justin Hebert, Marcus Mariota, Jameis Winston, or some other non-week 1 starter... in week 1. EconDad fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Aug 18, 2020 |
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Aug 18, 2020 17:09
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I mean, I could easily invite my dad and I know he would join and he is knowledgeable about fantasy football and stuff, but I really don't want to expose my dad to goons or my goonie alter-ego. I figure someone must have a brother or sister or partner or friend who is more online.
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Aug 18, 2020 17:19
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1 is the only choice imo. 2 is a total no-go for me. From the CPU screwing up the draft to the other teams fighting on what the starters should be starting any given week. Had a league where we did it one season. Even when you make rules for who should start there will be disagreements. Pain of Mind posted:I mean, I could easily invite my dad and I know he would join and he is knowledgeable about fantasy football and stuff, but I really don't want to expose my dad to goons or my goonie alter-ego. I figure someone must have a brother or friend who is more online. For something like that I am totally fine people not joining SA. The actual ESPN site is pretty goon culture-free and I see no reason why they need to join here. ESPN has email notifications for messages and that sort. I know I've been in other goon leagues with non-goons and never had a problem with them not being on this site. Edit: By no-go I mean that I'm very against it but not going to quit the league over it or something. jabro fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Aug 18, 2020 |
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Aug 18, 2020 17:19
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It's a no from me on ghost teams.
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Aug 18, 2020 17:23
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Cool. Again, I hope we don’t have to do either but at least we have a path forward. I’d say let’s wait until this Sunday, and if not, I’m sure we can find a couple of non-goons that we know (someone like Pecota’s friend) to fill out the ranks.
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Aug 18, 2020 18:15
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I'm also not a huge fan of the ghost teams idea. If nobody is setting lineups for those then they're just going to be punching bags once bye weeks start.
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Aug 18, 2020 18:31
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jabro posted:1 is the only choice imo. If we cannot find anyone I can ask him, just mainly: quote:I really don't want to expose my dad to goons.
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Aug 18, 2020 18:36
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Pain of Mind posted:If we cannot find anyone I can ask him, just mainly: Well we already have husband and wife in this league, might as well have father and son.
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Aug 18, 2020 19:57
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Also two of us are brothers (Eltoasto and myself)
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Aug 19, 2020 01:51
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ShakeZula posted:Also two of us are brothers (Eltoasto and myself) I did not know that! Cool!
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Silly Burrito posted:I did not know that! Cool! It's part of why I was so excited to join the league last year after hearing about it for years. It's also the reason he's always the first one listed as an alternate when I do the Goon Draft - he's BOUND BY BLOOD and cannot refuse.
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Aug 19, 2020 23:09
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Silly Burrito posted:Cool. Again, I hope we don’t have to do either but at least we have a path forward. I’d say let’s wait until this Sunday, and if not, I’m sure we can find a couple of non-goons that we know (someone like Pecota’s friend) to fill out the ranks. I'll totally forget about it otherwise, but shoot me a PM or something if I should reach out to him
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Aug 20, 2020 02:52
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ShakeZula posted:It's part of why I was so excited to join the league last year after hearing about it for years. It's also the reason he's always the first one listed as an alternate when I do the Goon Draft - he's BOUND BY BLOOD and cannot refuse. Once you hear the stories of desperately trying to find a backup QB who might be a starting QB by week 10, you can't resist.
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Aug 20, 2020 03:10
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Power of Pecota posted:I'll totally forget about it otherwise, but shoot me a PM or something if I should reach out to him I decided to just text in case he potentially wasn't interested, and he's definitely in if we're opening things up. Like, I'd buy him an account if not for the sale still being pending.
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Power of Pecota posted:I decided to just text in case he potentially wasn't interested, and he's definitely in if we're opening things up. Honestly, if you vouch for him, he wants to play, and he’ll be getting an account eventually, he’s basically a goon-to-be. Please PM me his email, and I’ll set up his account. That way we will only have one undecided team, and we can start setting up the draft and schedule so that those of you who want to mock draft and/or discuss pick trades can do so if inclined. Edit: Pecota sent me the info, so the invitation has been sent. He'll join you in the Romo division, Pecota. 
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Aug 20, 2020 12:33
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Ok, Pecota's friend has joined the league as Folesome Prison Blues, so I figured....let's get on with the show and figure out the draft order. Braksgirl was watching me, and as I said before, I'd use Random.org and randomize five times. Here are the draft results: So yeah, I drafted first last year, now I draft 20th. The universe likes a good joke. And this should be a huge incentive to whoever takes the last team. You'll get the #1 draft pick. I'll probably get the schedules up and running in the next couple of days and post those when they're ready. They shouldn't be too different from last year but I'm hoping we will all have different OOC games if the tool works correctly. As always, the picks are theoretically tradable if you want to do so. The draft order and schedules will be updated in ESPN soon.
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Aug 20, 2020 18:55
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Aww hell yeah all the way up from 17 (I think) last year! Actually I didnt mind it that much. I greatly prefer drafting at the ends of a round, whether that closer to the start or the finish.
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Aug 20, 2020 19:06
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Quiet Feet posted:Aww hell yeah all the way up from 17 (I think) last year! Somewhat counter-intuitively, but for this league I feel like draft spot matters the least. In 12 or so team leagues it feels like there is a spot where there is a major tier drop off and pick 7 is worth significantly more than pick 8, while there is no difference for the second round pick (random example), but since there are so many people here the value of an early second rounder makes up for the decreased value in first rounder. I value an early 3rd rounder more than the early first rounder for an early spot, the middle is nice since you are less at the mercy at a position run and can plan better for players that might fall to you, and the end is nice for an early second rounder that typically has first round value. Pain of Mind fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Aug 20, 2020 |
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Aug 20, 2020 19:25
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And here's the schedule: For future reference to either myself or whoever makes the schedule in 2021, I kept the teams in the same order, but the Dan Marino division teams shifted down one while the Joe Namath division teams shifted up one. The Joe Montana division teams shifted down one while the Tony Romo division teams shifted up one. Doing that should give all new OOC games and alter the main schedule as well. 
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Aug 20, 2020 19:44
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Pain of Mind posted:Somewhat counter-intuitively, but for this league I feel like draft spot matters the least. In 12 or so team leagues it feels like there is a spot where there is a major tier drop off and pick 7 is worth significantly more than pick 8, while there is no difference for the second round pick (random example), but since there are so many people here the value of an early second rounder makes up for the decreased value in first rounder. I think there's at least the suggestion of more control when you have two picks right close to each other. I like having a selection and being able to think out who else might be around when I'm up next although it's probably purely a mental thing and I'm not going to go so far as to say it confers an actual advantage.
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Aug 20, 2020 20:36
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The schedule has been uploaded, so all we need is the 20th team, and we're good to go for the draft and the season.
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Aug 20, 2020 21:18
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I have too many options at #5. Anyone want to trade up a few spots, I hate thinking.
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Aug 21, 2020 18:36
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Pain of Mind posted:I have too many options at #5. Anyone want to trade up a few spots, I hate thinking. Not sure what "a few" is in your mind... or, how spots are even traded. But, I'm 15 if you really want to roll way down the list.
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Aug 21, 2020 20:39
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Ok, it's Sunday and we still need a 20th team. Before we ask Pain of Mind to invite family, do any of you have any non-goon friends who you think would want to play?
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Aug 23, 2020 13:10
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Silly Burrito posted:Ok, it's Sunday and we still need a 20th team. Before we ask Pain of Mind to invite family, do any of you have any non-goon friends who you think would want to play? I don't think this is an option even if we cannot find a 20th, talking yesterday he mentioned he had a Zoom draft that starts an hour before ours, I don't think it will be done within an hour but I can check if he wants to double draft.
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Aug 23, 2020 13:39
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ok, fine, I'll do it gimme the #1 draft slot.
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Aug 23, 2020 17:29
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pmchem posted:ok, fine, I'll do it fuuuuuck I was just coming here to say this
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Aug 23, 2020 17:30
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ketchup vs catsup posted:fuuuuuck I was just coming here to say this if you want in, you can have it. I just didn't want the league to die. if they ask for an emergency fill pre-draft next week though, I still have dibs on the #1 draft slot and you'll have to give it to me!
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Aug 23, 2020 17:32
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Well drat, THAT worked.ketchup vs catsup posted:fuuuuuck I was just coming here to say this pmchem posted:if you want in, you can have it. I just didn't want the league to die. Ketchup vs. Catsup, since pmchem is conceding the spot, you're in! I'll send the details via PM.
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Aug 23, 2020 17:35
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let's loving go
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Aug 23, 2020 17:40
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We have a full league, boys and girls.  Let's have some fun! Don't forget, the draft is Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 8PM EASTERN TIME.
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Aug 23, 2020 17:45
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Anyone want to join our league? <crickets> You will have the #1 draft spot. ME MEME ME ME ME
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Aug 23, 2020 17:46
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Pain of Mind posted:Anyone want to join our league? <crickets>
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Aug 23, 2020 17:48
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Pain of Mind posted:Anyone want to join our league? <crickets> feels like just the right incentive to try a 20 teamer
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Aug 23, 2020 17:48
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EconDad posted:Not sure what "a few" is in your mind... or, how spots are even traded. But, I'm 15 if you really want to roll way down the list. A bit further back than ideal  .I swapped our 1st rounds and then 2nd, 4th, 6th, and 8th round picks in a trade calculator and it says I am getting ripped off, though I feel like it is undervaluing the later picks significantly due to 20 teams compared to 10 or 12.
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Aug 23, 2020 17:56
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ketchup vs catsup posted:feels like just the right incentive to try a 20 teamer I'll be interested to see who you pick. Last year I got Saquon in that spot, and...it was less than ideal. I still blame Aaron Rodgers though.
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Aug 23, 2020 19:21
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Pain of Mind posted:A bit further back than ideal Yeah, it probably won't work out. That's okay. You've got a lot of options at pick 5, that's for sure. Most should probably pan out.
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Silly Burrito posted:I'll be interested to see who you pick. Last year I got Saquon in that spot, and...it was less than ideal. I had Aaron Rodgers in one of my two leagues last year... (up to four this year including this one? We'll see how that feels). Anyway... having Rodgers last year was an absolute nightmare. Aaron Jones seemed to skate in from 15-20 yards out consistently. I also benched Rodgers for his explosion game against the Raiders (50ish points in our league). I started Goff instead and he did fine and I still won... but it's the principle of the matter, man. Rodgers is supposed to be... y'know, good.
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