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charliebravo77
Jun 11, 2003

I don't know what it's like now, but last summer late July I was at Yellowstone twice and both times entered the park from Gardner around 5-6am and went right in, no traffic, no one even manning the gate house. It definitely gets busier once the sun comes up but early morning there was hardly anyone there but the hardcore photographers and wildlife watchers.

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charliebravo77
Jun 11, 2003

Oracle posted:

So there’s a new bill in Congress REI is shilling,

The bipartisan America's Outdoor Recreation Act (S. 3266) was introduced by Senators Manchin (D-WV) and Barrasso (R-WY) to improve and expand America’s outdoor recreation economy while delivering sustainable economic boosts to rural communities. It includes several bills celebrated by outdoor enthusiasts, including several bills REI Co-op has advocated for and shaped.

The comprehensive package contains several ground-breaking recreation bills, including the Outdoor Recreation Act, the Simplifying Outdoor Access for Recreation (SOAR) Act, the Recreation-Not-Red-Tape Act, the Gateway Community and Recreation Enhancement Act, the Biking on Long-Distance Trails Act, and many others. It is supported by a broad coalition of organizations, including America Outdoors, American Mountain Guides Association, American Sportfishing Association, Backcountry Hunters & Anglers, Delta Waterfowl, Institute for Operations Research and the Management Sciences, International Mountain Bicycling Association, KABOOM!, Marine Retailers Association of America, National Forest Recreation Association, National Marine Manufacturing Association, National Parks Hospitality Association, National Recreation and Park Association, National Shooting Sports Foundation, Outdoor Alliance, Outdoor Industry Association, Outdoor Recreation Roundtable, People For Bikes, Professional Photographers of America, REI Co-op, RV Industry Association, Teddy Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, The Mule Deer Foundation, The Trust for Public Land, The Wilderness Society, Vista Outdoors, Wyoming Outfitters and Guides Association and Wyoming State Parks and Cultural Resources.

You can see the actual text here.

Anyone heard of this, and is it going to actually do any good? They say they’ve talked to actual park rangers and such but it’s Manchin which instantly gets my suspicions up, but also we are loving our parks to death and so many badly need fixing up and trail maintenance and etc

If the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, Mule Deer Foundation, Backcountry Hunters & Anglers and Delta Waterfowl are backing it then it is almost 1000% going to be a great bill. I need to read the full text but TRCP is one of the most public land conservation, access and opportunity focused organizations there is.

charliebravo77
Jun 11, 2003

King Hong Kong posted:

the firing ranges are stupid;

The designated ranges would actually be a huge improvement. USFS and BLM land already allows recreational shooting and usually does not restrict where it can occur which leads to a variety of scenarios from hunters checking their zero into a safe backstop and cleaning up after themselves after traveling cross country (me) to hillbillies dragging old washing machines, glass bottles, cans and anything else you can think of out to use as target, not picking a safe backstop and leaving poo poo out in the field afterwards. If you have a place designated to shoot in each district/forest then that should help consolidate that sort of activity into one safe location. Ideally.

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